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#5401

So that was crazy. Also can't feel bad considering all points count equally at the end of the season and if this fuckery hadn't happened then Bottas's Hungary fuckery would have decided the championship. 

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#5402
1 minute ago, Buzzrock said:


I’m still getting coverage on TV.

Yeah, I reacted when their “thanks for watching F1” came played. Sorry, ESPN. Y’all aight after all

#5403

Hey guys, slept late. Worth watching the race, or nah?

 

#5405
Just now, FirstTimeCaller said:

Hey guys, slept late. Worth watching the race, or nah?

 

There was no race. 1 lap of drama. 3 laps of action (perez hamilton). Then last laps of safety and fia drama. 

#5406
7 minutes ago, vicerous said:

Neither of those points were followed. 

Mercedes is going to litigate the shit out of this. It isn't going to lead to anything, but it's going to happen.

#5408

IDK jack shit about F-1.  but a couple of my gearhead buddies on FB are chirping back and forth about what did and didn't happen, just like this thread this morning.  hell, one of my cousins who I thought had zero connection with racing has her outrage going pretty strong about it.  I was like, "Damn.  I have no idea what she's talking about, but I love the passion."

Interesting shit, with questionable tactics.  I might be more inclined to watch next season.

#5409
Just now, ATLLonghorn said:

Mercedes is going to litigate the shit out of this. It isn't going to lead to anything, but it's going to happen.

If this had been the 3rd race of the season, I'd bet they'd have a decent chance to overturn the result.

But, yeah, not going to unring that bell now that a new champion has already been declared.

#5411
3 minutes ago, slorch said:

  I might be more inclined to watch next season.

Honestly, this season was an aberration.

#5412
What a farce. I can't believe a bureaucrat would just make up an arbitrary decision on a whim to decide a championship. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to watch college football.

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At least quote your sources.
#5413
2 minutes ago, Fudbelty said:

 


At least quote your sources.

 

That's not me tweeting lol

#5416

Fuck these cars. The can DIAF. Just terrible for race day. 
 

Checo vs Hamilton and the previous battle between Alonzo and Hamilton (when Ocon won) were the two best racing moments of the the season for me. The back and forth today was as intense as it gets. Sad we don’t get that every weekend. Hopefully that will change. 
 

Helmet Cam is incredible. 
 

First and last lap bullshittery confirmed. Don’t hate the result. 
 

Bad luck for Lando. Should have been able to catch Charles in points. 
 

Fun season. Really hope the changes allow the cars to race on Sundays and add some variety. 
 

Embrace the midfield. Score all the way to P15. Let them have their own points battle that is easy for the fans to follow. 

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#5417
38 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

In reality - if Merc had made some better decisions earlier in the year, it would not have come down to this.

Or in the race. They had two chances to pit for fresher tires and elected to stay out when Hamilton was clearly the faster car when on equal footing. 

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#5418

And of course Lewis graciously congratulates Max on the win and then Max refuses to acknowledge him on the podium. The beat goes on.

#5419
Just now, FirstTimeCaller said:

Or in the race. They had two chances to pit for fresher tires and elected to stay out when Hamilton was clearly the faster car. 

Yeah I think in retrospect they should have pit under VSC. Tough call to make

#5420

 

Just now, G650 said:

And of course Lewis graciously congratulates Max on the win and then Max refuses to acknowledge him on the podium. The beat goes on.

Lol. That's just a flat lie.

#5421
1 minute ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Or in the race. They had two chances to pit for fresher tires and elected to stay out when Hamilton was clearly the faster car. 

Are the odds of a stuck tire or other long stop lower than the odds of a safety car?

#5423
1 minute ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

 

Lol. That's just a flat lie.

Uh, it just happened?

#5424

At least the pit stop is under your control instead of hoping there isn't a wreck before the end of the race.

#5425
Just now, kevwun said:

At least the pit stop is under your control instead of hoping there isn't a wreck before the end of the race.

100%

#5427
1 minute ago, PittsburghTiger said:

Max has been called to Race Control for the overtaking under the safety car

Could you imagine lol

#5428
Max has been called to Race Control for the overtaking under the safety car

He was definitely inching up there. I noticed that. Lewis is the safety car at that point. I don’t think anything will or should come of it but I’m not ruling out the Stewards making one last twist.
#5431
3 minutes ago, G650 said:

Could you imagine lol

My understanding is that this is one of the two filed protests... 

#5433
Just now, dieucla98 said:

$5k fine or some stupid shit is all that will come of it. 

Manufactured drama, all of it. Stupid.

 

Shouldn't be that way. If Michael Masi doesn't ignore FIA regulations to make up rules on the fly then Lewis is the race winner. At the very least he has no business being involved in the sport going forward. 

#5434
9 minutes ago, G650 said:

And of course Lewis graciously congratulates Max on the win and then Max refuses to acknowledge him on the podium. The beat goes on.

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#5437
Just now, Goofyboy said:

No way they over turn the result, but Massi should be fired for flat ignoring the regs.

Technically there's no result yet - I don't think anything changes but there is an ironclad case for it. 

#5438
IDK jack shit about F-1.  but a couple of my gearhead buddies on FB are chirping back and forth about what did and didn't happen, just like this thread this morning.  hell, one of my cousins who I thought had zero connection with racing has her outrage going pretty strong about it.  I was like, "Damn.  I have no idea what she's talking about, but I love the passion."
Interesting shit, with questionable tactics.  I might be more inclined to watch next season.

You should watch the Netflix series.
#5441

Another possibility, is that apparently once cars are allowed to unlap, the SC is supposed to come in on the FOLLOWING lap. I admit I have not double checked that rule, though.

If so, that obviously was also not followed.

#5443
5 minutes ago, G650 said:

Dude I watched the whole sequence.

Then you saw them bump the bottles and acknowledge each other, after they acknowledged each other and talk before the post-race interviews? I don't understand. 

#5444
1 minute ago, Anton Chigurh said:

Another possibility, is that apparently once cars are allowed to unlap, the SC is supposed to come in on the FOLLOWING lap. I admit I have not double checked that rule, though.

If so, that obviously was also not followed.

Posted it a bit earlier, it's absolutely not a grey area in the regulations. 

#5445
Then you saw them bump the bottles and acknowledge each other, after they acknowledged each other and talk before the post-race interviews? I don't understand. 

Yeah Max definitely walked over to toast Lewis on the podium. And gave him credit in his post race interview.
#5446
4 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

Then you saw them bump the bottles and acknowledge each other, after they acknowledged each other and talk before the post-race interviews? I don't understand. 

Horner shakes his hand and Max turns his back. At any rate, it's not a big point that I am trying to debate endlessly, it was a throwaway observation that made me lol at how the personalities never change.

 

Plus I have way more historical antipathy for Horner and Red Bull anyway.

 

 

#5447
Another possibility, is that apparently once cars are allowed to unlap, the SC is supposed to come in on the FOLLOWING lap. I admit I have not double checked that rule, though.

If so, that obviously was also not followed.

Here is the regulation:

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#5448
31 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Checo vs Hamilton and the previous battle between Alonzo and Hamilton (when Ocon won) were the two best racing moments of the the season for me. The back and forth today was as intense as it gets. Sad we don’t get that every weekend. Hopefully that will change.

Not only that, it proved you can have a drawn-out, on-the-edge battle between 2 cars switching between inside and and outside lanes....without flagrant divebombs... AND it was between a red bull and mercedes no less.

Anyway, in the end the results will stand.  The money is in the WCC which Mercedes so any jostling now is just ego and reputational battle.

#5449

Based on the regulations, the race should have finished under yellow. Mercedes has a case, as do any other teams that were caught out by not having a proper line up and restart.

#5450
6 minutes ago, G650 said:

Horner shakes his hand and Max turns his back. At any rate, it's not a big point that I am trying to debate endlessly, it was a throwaway observation that made me lol at how the personalities never change.

 

Plus I have way more historical antipathy for Horner and Red Bull anyway.

 

 

I'm not trying to dunk on you man, but if the video you posted is "refusing to acknowledge" then your Max hatred has blinded you. And just 10 minutes earlier was this:

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And after the podium, he was interviewed and praised Hamilton. 

Sorry your guy didn't win, but you're just throwing out lies. Just admit you were mistaken. It happens.

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