August 29, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, XYZ said: Third greatest F1 driver ever. who do you put in the other two places? i always have Fangio in one of the top spots. Edited August 29, 20214 yr by PittsburghTiger
August 29, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, XYZ said: 1. Fangio 2. Senna Fight me Was not being accusatory or confrontational. I like your list. Over Bier it would be nice to "argue" the placements.
August 29, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, ConferenceRoom said: Jimmy Clark good choice. career cut too short. excellent winning percentage, i believe about 33% in F1. And, he kinda got screwed out of a win at the Indy 500. back when guys had, and took, the opportunity to drive anything.
August 29, 20214 yr Are they gonna do this fucking race or what? Why didn’t they just announce that it’s postponed until tomorrow and be done with it?
August 29, 20214 yr I think the top-five has to have: Schumacher, Fangio, Senna, Hamilton with the fifth spot being up for discussion - Stewart, Clark, Moss, Vettel, Hakkinen, Prost, or others. I don't put Hamilton in the top spot. Not with the overall domination by Mercedes with just how much better the car has been than any other car. Then, with what Russell did in his one race in the car shows, to me, that the car was just way, way dominant.
August 29, 20214 yr Any chance they’re getting actual competition laps? Doubtful if the conditions are the same as earlier.
August 29, 20214 yr I think the top-five has to have: Schumacher, Fangio, Senna, Hamilton with the fifth spot being up for discussion - Stewart, Clark, Moss, Vettel, Hakkinen, Prost, or others. I don't put Hamilton in the top spot. Not with the overall domination by Mercedes with just how much better the car has been than any other car. Then, with what Russell did in his one race in the car shows, to me, that the car was just way, way dominant.Fangio switched teams nearly every year (and once even mid-season) to be in the best car. He was obviously a great driver, but he somehow is immune to that same kind of criticism. I feel that with time more people will come around to Lewis. Also, basing things on one race in a vacuum on a really weird simple circuit is a bold strategy.
August 29, 20214 yr Fangio switched teams nearly every year (and once even mid-season) to be in the best car. He was obviously a great driver, but he somehow is immune to that same kind of criticism. I feel that with time more people will come around to Lewis. Also, basing things on one race in a vacuum on a really weird simple circuit is a bold strategy. Strangely enough, one only has to look at Lewis’s career at McLaren and his competition both internal and external to know where he stands and appreciate him as a driver. He is a complete driver over one lap, in the wet, under pressure. It’s hard to compare eras but Lewis is on Mt. Olympus, and there aren’t too many rungs left to Zeus.
August 29, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said: Fangio switched teams nearly every year (and once even mid-season) to be in the best car. He was obviously a great driver, but he somehow is immune to that same kind of criticism. I feel that with time more people will come around to Lewis. Also, basing things on one race in a vacuum on a really weird simple circuit is a bold strategy. I do believe you don't think that I mean that one race was the sole decider for that. But Russell came right and and damned near won. The team has been way dominant. The spending, and results, are clear. I said Hamilton is in my top-five. It's not like I am saying he's on par with Ralf Schumacher but, I should have been more clear that my four listed in the top-five were not in any particular order. That's up to discussion. Fangio, I think, didn't win his first championship until he was 40-years old.
August 29, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said: Call ‘em out, Lewis!! Purely self-serving. He’d be singing a different tune if it was to his benefit. Edited August 29, 20214 yr by TonyTexas
August 29, 20214 yr Purely self-serving. He’d be singing a different tune if it was to his benefit. Yeah, I’m gonna disagree with that one.
August 29, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, TonyTexas said: Purely self-serving. He’d be singing a different tune if it was to his benefit. Abso-fucking-lutely.
August 29, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said: Lawd. What a shit show. Never underestimate the F1 administration's ability to goof up something.
August 29, 20214 yr Never underestimate the F1 administration's ability to goof up something.I miss Charlie.
August 29, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, PittsburghTiger said: i'm amazed that these fans are still there. thanks for the 500eur weekend tickets, parking fees, merch, and beer sales, suckers!
August 29, 20214 yr at the austrian gp, we went into one of those motion-simulators that cost 15 euros for like 3 minute helmet cam viewing of a lap. half way in, some fucking doofus got motion sick and hit the emergency button. ride stopped, we were all pushed out, and the rest of us werent allowed to resume/restart the show. fcking scam Edited August 29, 20214 yr by 52-80
August 29, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said: Fangio switched teams nearly every year (and once even mid-season) to be in the best car. He was obviously a great driver, but he somehow is immune to that same kind of criticism. I feel that with time more people will come around to Lewis. Also, basing things on one race in a vacuum on a really weird simple circuit is a bold strategy. I mean if you are using the car argument to keep Lewis out of number one, how is Schumi even on the list?
August 29, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said: Never underestimate the F1 administration's ability to goof up something. They didn’t actually screw anything up. F1 Journos don’t know the rules. The race counts as long as the lead finishes two laps. The red flag just means the final positions revert back to the end of Lap 1, which is the same order here.
August 29, 20214 yr Well that's a dang disappointment at my favorite track in the series. Ah well, hoping for better weather at Zandvoort.
August 29, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Burt Macklin said: They didn’t actually screw anything up. F1 Journos don’t know the rules. The race counts as long as the lead finishes two laps. The red flag just means the final positions revert back to the end of Lap 1, which is the same order here. So a Twitter controversy
August 29, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, utee94 said: Well that's a dang disappointment at my favorite track in the series. Ah well, hoping for better weather at Zandvoort. It’s been like that for at least a month over there. The 24 hour race was treacherous
August 29, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, G650 said: I mean if you are using the car argument to keep Lewis out of number one, how is Schumi even on the list? The Benetton years were special
August 29, 20214 yr Purely self-serving. He’d be singing a different tune if it was to his benefit. Nah, lots of drivers think this was wrong. Seb, Alonso, Lewis and Gasly have all said so. I'm sure others agree as well, those are the ones I've seen. Only Max is OK with the result, I think. Gasly took a shot at Perez, too. Said the only thing he did today was not crashing on the formation lap.
August 29, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, XYZ said: 1. Fangio 2. Senna Fight me I am 50/50 on your 1 and 2, but can't disagree on who the top 2 are
August 30, 20214 yr Author 6 hours ago, utee94 said: Well that's a dang disappointment at my favorite track in the series. Ah well, hoping for better weather at Zandvoort. Zandvoort is gonna be nuts.
August 30, 20214 yr Author Re: the goat tier ... all of these guys are so good that I think attempting to rank the top several F1 drivers ever is an exercise in futility and splitting hairs. But my goat tier has to include all of these guys, off the top of my head, in no particular order: Clark Lauda Stewart Alonso Schumacher Senna (both Senna and Schumi, for me, lose some luster for the ruthlessness they brought to the track in F1) Hamilton Prost Moss Fangio Edited August 30, 20214 yr by wood
August 30, 20214 yr Hopefully “VisorCam” becomes a permanent addition; very cool to see a lap from ALO’s perspective.
August 30, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Dutch said: Hopefully “VisorCam” becomes a permanent addition; very cool to see a lap from ALO’s perspective. evidently George is going to be the next one to trial it
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