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2018 San Antonio Spurs Offseason Thread -- Into the Great Unknown

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24 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Rumors (stress rumors) are the Clippers are trying to get into the top 10 because they want to be aggressive tonight and make their best offer for Kawhi tonight.  The Clippers best offer revolves around their lottery picks so tonight is the night for them unless they happen to draft some guys who the Spurs covet as well....

 

As a Spurs fan, do you think they're ready to move him this quickly, or do you think they'll take a more patient approach?

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  • Mitch Cumsteen
    Mitch Cumsteen

    Tony Parker also took multiple contracts at less than market value to keep the roster intact. David Robinson had a clause in his contract where his salary had to be among the top 2 paid players in the

  • Radical Larry
    Radical Larry

    He only played nine times. Niiiiine times.

  • Mitch Cumsteen
    Mitch Cumsteen

    That's bullshit. Other than drilling Brent Barry's wife (and really, who could blame him) he has been a model Spur. Always put team first. Never complained about touches. Never got into any trouble of

12 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

As a Spurs fan, do you think they're ready to move him this quickly, or do you think they'll take a more patient approach?

Id say if they are offered a top 5 pick he'll get moved tonight. if not, maybe at the deadline then..

28 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

As a Spurs fan, do you think they're ready to move him this quickly, or do you think they'll take a more patient approach?

 

15 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Id say if they are offered a top 5 pick he'll get moved tonight. if not, maybe at the deadline then..

All depends on what Kawhi said to Pop during their meeting this week. Wonder about Memphis, who is apparently doing everything they can to trade #4 since nobody seemingly wants to play for them. They think they're a 50-win team with healthy Gasol (the good one) and Conley. Leonard would make them very interesting but, again, it'd be a one-year rental most likely. I'd love Doncic but the Hawks are rumored to be infatuated with him as well, unless you buy the stories that it's a smokescreen to convince the Mavs to move up.

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10 isn't crazy because of his defense but unless his 3pt shooting rebounds, it's not the great value we thought we were getting....

Yah.  Danny's 10 mil a year isn't nearly as bad as Pau's 16 mil a year.  I wish we could get someone else to pay that but it's not likely.  That is an insane amount of money for a 37 year old declining big.

You guys must've not watched the same GS team I did this year.  I'm a die hard Spurs fan and I didn't think we had a chance against them - even if we had Leonard back from a major injury.  Anyhow - I don't think for a second that the Spurs organization had any intention of bringing Kawhi back early.  The team was playing well, and was competitive up until the Playoffs.   

  


I saw a GS team about to lose to Houston before Paul went down. Spurs would not be favored, and would need better LMA-Leonard chemistry and Danny Green to hit shots. But they could run a variety of defenses against them. A full complement Spurs team would’ve been tough. Not favored but fully capable of winning a series against the Rockets or Warriors.

If a Kawhi deal is more centered around a budding star than picks, what type of players fall into the "misutilized Olidipo" category? The Spurs seem like an organization that sees guys around the league that they could maximize?

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4 hours ago, Eastwood said:

Mock draft I saw last night had us drafting Dzanan Musa. Never heard of him

Teenage Bosnian wing who supposedly can really score.  Questions about his athleticism so it sounds like a Spurs.  

13 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Sounds like you’re also advocating for Wiggins just needing a change of scenery [/Minnesota].

People act like Brandon Ingram has star potential, but I don’t really see it.  I don’t know ... maybe Wall, Beal and Otto Porter in Washington really would be better for a different team?

Wiggins is one of the most overrated players in the league with a terrible contract. I hope we stay far away from Wiggins. 

42 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Sounds like you’re also advocating for Wiggins just needing a change of scenery [/Minnesota].

People act like Brandon Ingram has star potential, but I don’t really see it.  I don’t know ... maybe Wall, Beal and Otto Porter in Washington really would be better for a different team?

Beal is a nice thought. He's good and young.

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2 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Beal is a nice thought. He's good and young.

Beal for Kawhi straight up?  

24 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Beal for Kawhi straight up?  

No, but he could be the centerpiece... I think... maybe?

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This has been heavily reported...... Personally, I don't think we were prepared or had done our due diligence on a top 5 pick despite speculation.  12/13?  A little different considering we select in the general area.

 

6 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This has been heavily reported...... Personally, I don't think we were prepared or had done our due diligence on a top 5 pick despite speculation.  12/13?  A little different considering we select in the general area.

 

Might've been interested in that one honestly since at least the Clips have a snowball's chance at signing him long term. I might have asked for next year's #1 too. I know next-to-nothing about Harris.

Anybody interested in Porter if he’s still there at 18?

Think I’ve locked myself into wanting Zhaire.

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9 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Think I’ve locked myself into wanting Zhaire.

A lot of different directions but we need a wing IMO unless PATFO know we have some guys coming back.  Another guy we've been attached to is Robert Williams from aggy.  Good defensive player and rebounder, not much offensive game.

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A lot of different directions but we need a wing IMO unless PATFO know we have some guys coming back.  Another guy we've been attached to is Robert Williams from aggy.  Good defensive player and rebounder, not much offensive game.


Meh. Don’t think you need that big anymore to play in the Association, unless it’s somebody like Embiid. I want versatile wings.

Harris is a decent player. We could use more of those right now. Of course, LAC didn't take Porter, so his upside doesn't come into play now on a potential swap of assets. 

Regardless, I don't know what to think any more. Seems we're doing our usual observing of other teams drafting the good players while we sit back...not knowing how many viable players we even have on the roster now. All I'm sure of is that we're short on talent, and were about to be before the Kawhi fiasco began. 

1) teams are really valuing athletic wings. That's how the NBA has transitioned. 

2) Walker is a lottery pick talent. Slipped in the draft because of health concerns. Much like Porter. 

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There are some whispers about a medical red flag with his knee.  Otherwise, folks think he may be the highest ceiling wing in the draft other than Doncic.....

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1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

glad i dont have to look at that hair for 82 games a year

We're trading him and Pau for KAT.  So you'll have plenty of time..... Thanks!

All things considered, sounds like we did pretty well. Who really needs a meniscus, anyway? 

All things considered, sounds like we did pretty well. Who really needs a meniscus, anyway? 

We did sign a player with no acl’s, so sure.
4 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

All things considered, sounds like we did pretty well. Who really needs a meniscus, anyway? 

Timmy tore his in 2000 and did ok afterwards. 

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Lonnie Walker IV

SG | MIAMI (FL)

This is terrific value for San Antonio, who land a potential starting-caliber shooting guard who wasn’t expected to be available at their selection. He’s a fantastic athlete with real upside as a scorer and will be in a great situation for his development with the Spurs. According to league sources, some teams were concerned with Walker’s medical, which played a small role in this situation, but the issues had to do more with his long-term durability than any immediate injury risk. Walker’s athletic, slashing style of play could eventually give the Spurs a dangerous offensive dimension.

Even though it's two hours late,  it was good to see jaren Jackson again.   He hit a few big shots a couple of times,  then got lazy.   And for that I'll always be grateful. 

Don't know anything about him, but reading that stuff makes me feel like they made a good pick. Cool. Now Kawhi, get your shit together and let's wreck some shit. GSG

Pretty clear Pop wants to get more athletic. I think the top 2 guys on our board were likely Walker and Zhaire Smith. At least in reference to players they thought had a chance to fall that deep in the draft. 

On 6/16/2018 at 2:56 AM, Braff Zacklin said:

Haven't misjudged a person this grossly since my ex.

Well, in all fairness we know that in the case of the opposite sex, opinions can be blurred while chasing after tail... There's more clarity in weeding out pinheads in sports...

4 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

What are the odds Lonnie Walker is as good as Kawhi in 2 years

Zero percent 

12 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

What are the odds Lonnie Walker is as good as Kawhi in 2 years

Don’t do this to yourself. 

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