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2018 San Antonio Spurs Offseason Thread -- Into the Great Unknown

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  • Mitch Cumsteen
    Mitch Cumsteen

    Tony Parker also took multiple contracts at less than market value to keep the roster intact. David Robinson had a clause in his contract where his salary had to be among the top 2 paid players in the

  • Radical Larry
    Radical Larry

    He only played nine times. Niiiiine times.

  • Mitch Cumsteen
    Mitch Cumsteen

    That's bullshit. Other than drilling Brent Barry's wife (and really, who could blame him) he has been a model Spur. Always put team first. Never complained about touches. Never got into any trouble of

He only played nine times.

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Niiiiine times.
This is how it is done
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This has been getting some footing online..... Maybe nothing, but rumors are Butler won't extend in Minnesota and may look to move on.

Texas kid.... now, he grew up a Rockets fan but they really have no way to get him unless they want to trade Capela or he wants to take a lot less money.  I think getting a 3rd team involved may make the most sense, but Kawhi for Jimmy and couple of picks?  Simply another leverage point.

8 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This has been getting some footing online..... Maybe nothing, but rumors are Butler won't extend in Minnesota and may look to move on.

Texas kid.... now, he grew up a Rockets fan but they really have no way to get him unless they want to trade Capela or he wants to take a lot less money.  I think getting a 3rd team involved may make the most sense, but Kawhi for Jimmy and couple of picks?  Simply another leverage point.

If the rockets don't want to do a Capela for Butler trade they should fire their entire front office. That's like the Lakers balking at a Kawhi for Javale McGee trade.

50 minutes ago, Llogg said:

If the rockets don't want to do a Capela for Butler trade they should fire their entire front office. That's like the Lakers balking at a Kawhi for Javale McGee trade.

I think he meant trade Capela for the cap space, not talent for talent. Because the Rockets front office should also be fired for offering Capela for Butler. Not that they have any more realistic or enticing options to offer.

Wish something would happen already. Maybe this is why I'm not an NBA GM, but all this waiting has brought my price down, I'd be happy with Saric/Covington/1st round pick. Or even Ingram/"B" prospect/pick. I've softened on our impending "doom," as a playoff team returning essentially the same team, with a PG who is due to make a 3rd year jump, while retaining Rudy Gay (which I did not expect at all) in a 2nd year of the Spurs' system, I don't see how we don't improve with an extra talented piece or two. Kawhi played 9 games last year and we haven't lost a huge part of our playoff team (unless you count Tony as that, which I don't).

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1 hour ago, Llogg said:

If the rockets don't want to do a Capela for Butler trade they should fire their entire front office. That's like the Lakers balking at a Kawhi for Javale McGee trade.

Not exactly....

29 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

I think he meant trade Capela for the cap space, not talent for talent. Because the Rockets front office should also be fired for offering Capela for Butler. Not that they have any more realistic or enticing options to offer.

Wish something would happen already. Maybe this is why I'm not an NBA GM, but all this waiting has brought my price down, I'd be happy with Saric/Covington/1st round pick. Or even Ingram/"B" prospect/pick. I've softened on our impending "doom," as a playoff team returning essentially the same team, with a PG who is due to make a 3rd year jump, while retaining Rudy Gay (which I did not expect at all) in a 2nd year of the Spurs' system, I don't see how we don't improve with an extra talented piece or two. Kawhi played 9 games last year and we haven't lost a huge part of our playoff team (unless you count Tony as that, which I don't).

Correct.  Houston is already over the cap and Capela's expected deal will be about Butler's number.  They could trade in December if everything came together.  The Rockets have little else to trade.

I think the USA minicamp is now a big target for the Kawhi situation beyond the Supermax window.  If he shows up and works out and looks good, then it will assuage some teams concern about his health.  If he doesn't then...... welp.

Also, Cris Carter saying Pop will try and accommodate Kawhi to get him to his preferred destination, but Spurs priorities come first.  Carter thinks it'll be LA to either team.  Carter isn't a NBA guy so this only matter because Carter and Kawhi shared the same playing agent.  I'm sure Pop will try but if we get a better offer, he's going to the highest bidder.  Folks who don't like the wait, should probably just check out until mid August to see if anything has happened.

 

I'm about to force myself to take a break from closely following this nonsense.  However, for my own sanity here are the key dates coming up I'm aware of:

  • July 16 - first date designed player extension can be offered/signed
  • July 26 - USA basketball minicamp
  • late September - Spurs training camp
  • October - deadline to sign DPE agreement?
  • Feb 2019 - trade deadline

Maybe this gets resolved by mid to late September?  Ugh ... enough already.  

A lineup of

Murray
Butler
Green
Gay
Aldridge

would be the best defensive lineup in the league. You could switch against Houston and Golden State and have 4 playmakers on the court. You could even harass top offenses. It’s championship-level if everything comes together.

Then the bench becomes an asset. That being said if Green and Mills cant shoot consistently, Murray doesn’t advance and Gay and LA show their age, 1st round exit if you even make the playoffs.

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2 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Kawhi won’t show up for the USA minicamp.
 

If he really wants out of SA, sooner than later, then it would behoove him to show up and workout..... 

 

This is fantastic to see.....

 

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23 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Throw in a draft pick or two to the Spurs? 

1.  Can't imagine Philly would accept this for DeRozan, a wing who can't hit 3's.

2.  Spurs are at 14 guaranteed contracts.  We can take on 1, maybe 2 more guys, and that's with Manu still out there.  That trade has us with 17 contracts and Manu.  

In short, no.  That has no chance of realistically happening.

And reportedly, DeRozan wipes his Social Media every summer so he can refresh it..... Funny if a betting site took that into account.

 

Sign me up for any trade that gets rid of Pau's contract.

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Lonnie limped off the court at SL.  Looks like an ankle.....

 

Sprained ankle per the broadcasters.

1 hour ago, texasstrong12 said:

Throw in a draft pick or two to the Spurs? 

Even if it could happen, which as pointed out, it can't, this would be the exceptional trade in which everyone involved gets worse.

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We must be waiting to make a move because we already have a billion guards 6'4" or below and have now been reported to have interest in Nwaba and Rodney Stuckey.  Again, all of this with Manu's decision still out there and 14 contracts on the roster.  We need another big guy.  Or maybe PATFO are simply trying to accumulate assets.  No idea, but makes me think we'll some how be trading for a big.  We need to decide what to do with Metu (broken wrist) and Blossomgame (one more G-League year?).  Maybe a 2 way contract for Brimah or Eubanks (yuck)....

 

 

 

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We need another big guy. 

Well, with all these guards, maybe we could

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It looks nice. Teal is a good color on Tony.

9 minutes ago, Kermit said:

It looks nice. Teal is a good color on Tony.

I'm calling that "sacre" blue.

3 hours ago, Gut Wagon said:

I'm calling that "sacre" blue.

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9 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

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This is just.... weird.

I wish Tony the best of luck in the East conference. He was one of my favorite Spurs of all-time so it'll be weird seeing him in that jersey as well, but it's a business and he still has a desire to play a larger role so he did what was best for him and the Spurs.

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Good news on Metu that it's not displaced and won't require surgery.  Not sure what we'll do with him.  I'm thinking a two way contract because he'll miss some workout time.  I like him but he definitely needs to get stronger.

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My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw George Hill at Chick Fil A last week at the Rim. I guess it’s pretty serious.

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1 hour ago, miguelito said:

My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw George Hill at Chick Fil A last week at the Rim. I guess it’s pretty serious.

Thank you, Miguelito.....

 

On 7/13/2018 at 10:09 AM, Hate said:

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That gif is finominle.

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Because of our lack of bigs, there was some thought he may be coming over, but with our cap situation, it probably wasn't financially feasible.  Our roster is still a real conundrum.  Our current front court looks like this:

Ce:  Pau, LMA (in small ball lineups)

PF:  LMA, Rudy (stretch), Davis (stretch)

We haven't signed or decided on Metu, who can probably only really play forward for now.  Sure feels like we have one more move left as we really only have one Center on the roster..... Or we could play Patty at center.

Not that it really matters but saw that today is the first day that the Spurs *could* sign Kawhi to the supermax.

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Dante Cunningham?  Another fucking tweener who does nothing well.  Sigh.  Fucking lazy signing.....

 

Seeing a little chatter that Cris Carter has said the Clippers are trying to "move mountains" to get the pieces for a Kawhi trade.

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5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Seeing a little chatter that Cris Carter has said the Clippers are trying to "move mountains" to get the pieces for a Kawhi trade.

They don't have any real pieces we'd want.  Maybe Tobias Harris but he's not a difference maker.  Nice player.  They'd have to get a 3rd or 4th team involved.

14 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Dante Cunningham?  Another fucking tweener who does nothing well.  Sigh.  Fucking lazy signing.....

 

It was either Kyle Anderson or a cheap short-term alternative like this. 

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8 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

It was either Kyle Anderson or a cheap short-term alternative like this. 

We don't really need another stretch 4 or tweener with Bertans re-signed.  Could have easily gone with another big.  Rather have seen what Alex Len could have done than a journeyman like Cunningham with little upside.

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