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I've been internetting this for while but cant find a direct answer.

Say I'm walking my dog on leash and some crack head attacks me.

This results in the dog causing serious injury or death to said attacking crack head.

Am I liable in any way, and more importantly will I have to put my dog down?

I ask because the homeless crack heads in my hood are getting more aggressive. One to the point of teasing my pooch.

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I've been internetting this for while but cant find a direct answer.
Say I'm walking my dog on leash and some crack head attacks me.
This results in the dog causing serious injury or death to said attacking crack head.
Am I liable in any way, and more importantly will I have to put my dog down?
I ask because the homeless crack heads in my hood are getting more aggressive. One to the point of teasing my pooch.

Did you have reason to believe your dog could be dangerous prior to the incident? Has he ever bitten someone? If not, you shouldn’t be responsible to this low life. In law school they called this the “one free bite rule”—though it’s not really a rule of law. Even if you could be liable there might be a sort of self-defense argument because your dog was protecting you. The dog could be considered an extension of you. In any event, now that you know your dog can be aggressive you may be liable for future attacks. You need to be extra careful now. My free legal advice. It’s worth the price you paid.

He said the crackheads are getting more aggressive, not his dawg.

But it would be a good idea for him to refrain from posting any pics like this of his dog prior to claiming self defense.

 

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7 minutes ago, HouTex said:


Did you have reason to believe your dog could be dangerous prior to the incident? Has he ever bitten someone? If not, you shouldn’t be responsible to this low life. In law school they called this the “one free bite rule”—though it’s not really a rule of law. Even if you could be liable there might be a sort of self-defense argument because your dog was protecting you. The dog could be considered an extension of you. In any event, now that you know your dog can be aggressive you may be liable for future attacks. You need to be extra careful now. My free legal advice. It’s worth the price you paid.

Accurate.  Doesn't mean you can't still be sued, which can be worse than actually losing.

Apart from your civil liability if you are sued, if the Travco authorities get wind of a dog bite case, your pooch can be declared a dangerous dog and you have to register.  https://www.austintexas.gov/page/dangerous-and-vicious-dogs  And if your dangerous dog does it again, a vicious dog that must be removed from the city limits.  But is not put down.

All of this assumes "unprovoked" bite or attack, so that's one way around it.  Proving provocation or lack thereof might be more difficult than you think.

 

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Not sure about dog law but if you want to go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor, I'm your guy.

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Luna isnt aggressive at all. She doesn't take shit from other dogs, but she has never out right attacked anything. Her first instinct with people is to go in for pets unless you are a crack head. She gets in between and gives a hard stare but doesn't growl or raise her hackles.

 

Do the same rules apply if someone breaks into your home, or does she get to go full Cujo in the name of home defense?

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Take Nutcracker with you on your next walk.

 

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Pre-doglaw?  I thought he was pre-med?  

What's the difference?  He's on a roll.  

3 hours ago, BradInATX said:

Not sure about dog law but if you want to go toe to toe on bird law and see who comes out the victor, I'm your guy.

 

2 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Just shoot the crackheads and don't involve your dog

This is more along the lines of what I’m thinking.

In any case, I dial 911 and tell them all about how this crackhead attacked me and my dog.

A police officer would side with you.  Crackheads aren’t high on the level of respect scale for law enforcement.

In because I want to hear how this turns out.

What kind of dog?

Does having a dog for protection mitigate liability? Or is it really better to just be strapped?

5 hours ago, StruggleBus said:

Do crack heads typically sue?

No, but their lawyers do.

Buy all the nearby crack houses, drive the crack heads out by gentrifying and installing meddling Karens.

Stay inside with the dog, because once the Karens get the cops to shoot all the crack heads, you're next.

Technically wouldn’t the dog be next?

5 hours ago, StruggleBus said:

Do crack heads typically sue?

This was my thought.  Not sure they've got the means or the wherewithal to even obtain legal council.

2 hours ago, DaggerHorns said:

Crackheads aren’t high on the level of respect scale for law enforcement.

They are right above crack whores.  And assistant crack whores.

2 hours ago, DaggerHorns said:

 

This is more along the lines of what I’m thinking.

In any case, I dial 911 and tell them all about how this crackhead attacked me and my dog.

sure if you want the dog to be shot

10 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

They are right above crack whores.  And assistant crack whores.

How does one get to be an assistant to a crack whore?  

Last year a guy hopped my back fence running from the police. He was not expecting three dogs being there to greet him. They put some holes in his legs. He hopped back up on the fence and froze and was crying like a baby when the cops came and grabbed him.

Cops thought it was hilarious he got bit. Nothing came of it. 

MIA, it's probably better if you let your dog, you know, finish the job.  Crack heads die all the time. 

If you’re really concerned about the liability your dog presents, it costs very little to up the liability coverage on your homeowners/renters policy or to get an umbrella liability policy.

4 hours ago, DaggerHorns said:

Crackheads aren’t high on the level of respect scale for law enforcement.

Oregon begs to differ.

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2 hours ago, tbone_ said:

In because I want to hear how this turns out.

What kind of dog?

Does having a dog for protection mitigate liability? Or is it really better to just be strapped?

She is a white Sheppard.  No history of aggression.

8 hours ago, StruggleBus said:

Do crack heads typically sue?

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Just prepare yourself for the cops to shoot your dog when they arrive. 
SOP for cops. 

From a cost/benefit perspective with respect to any potential compensatory damages, keep in mind that it will almost certainly be cheaper for your dog to kill the crackhead than to maim the crackhead. 

No criminal or “dog court” problems are likely at all.

I know it’s been said before, but I felt that it was my duty to reply to this thread as official surly dog lawyer (because I handled one whole case).

19 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This was my thought.  Not sure they've got the means or the wherewithal to even obtain legal council.

Never bet that a) someone won't sue or b) won't be able to find a lawyer to take their case.

Get a pair of dentures with the same mold as your dogs teeth. Carry them around when you go walking. If anything ever happens, pop those bad boys in and say you bit the crackhead.

How close is the taunting crackhead? I’d get a big can of stream OC and paint his face next time he got too close. 

On 12/29/2020 at 1:09 PM, Armybrat said:

Take Nutcracker with you on your next walk.

 

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Every picture I have ever taken of my dog has now gone down in my book.

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48 minutes ago, Archer said:

How close is the taunting crackhead? I’d get a big can of stream OC and paint his face next time he got too close. 

Far enough away that the leash did its job.

Thinking a CHL is in order.

The only thing I know about this is if your dog gets sentenced, you need to multiply the years by 7.

And brat, that dog is right on the edge of going full aggy.

On 12/29/2020 at 6:52 PM, Deej said:

Last year a guy hopped my back fence running from the police. He was not expecting three dogs being there to greet him. They put some holes in his legs. He hopped back up on the fence and froze and was crying like a baby when the cops came and grabbed him.

Cops thought it was hilarious he got bit. Nothing came of it. 

 

sounds like he fucked around and found out.

 

 

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