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3 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Edit: It’s also insane that aggy was able to fall ass backwards into a 5 star QB. 

It's because he isn't a 5 star. When's the last time a 5 star QB was a battle between the likes of aggy and Tennessee? This is once again recruiting services overreacting to camps. 

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2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

It's because he isn't a 5 star. When's the last time a 5 star QB was a battle between the likes of aggy and Tennessee? This is once again recruiting services overreacting to camps. 

I agree he’s currently overrated, but he is a 5 star right now. Regardless, they still fell ass backwards into a way better QB than they should have.

15 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

King and Jones' jump in Rival's rankings have made both composite 5 - stars.  aggy now has three composite 5 stars committed in the 2020 class.

But rivals is sip biased. Espn is who to follow. 

3 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

It's because he isn't a 5 star. When's the last time a 5 star QB was a battle between the likes of aggy and Tennessee? This is once again recruiting services overreacting to camps. 

Does Brandon Stewart count?

2 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

It's because he isn't a 5 star. When's the last time a 5 star QB was a battle between the likes of aggy and Tennessee? This is once again recruiting services overreacting to camps. 

 

Card did well in camps and he dropped. The reporters like King better.

6 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

It's because he isn't a 5 star. When's the last time a 5 star QB was a battle between the likes of aggy and Tennessee? This is once again recruiting services overreacting to camps. 

QBs can be late risers too. By the time King rose to the forefront a lot of schools already had their QB takes (including us). King is very much a five-star and A&M got unbelievably lucky.

5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

"if I'm objective"

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Depth chart advantage?  The one where they are going miraculously drop 20-25% of it to sign their current class? 

Things are going so well at TE that they moved Horry back there last week.

 

1 minute ago, satyanash said:

QBs can be late risers too. By the time King rose to the forefront a lot of schools already had their QB takes (including us). King is very much a five-star and A&M got unbelievably lucky.

I don't buy this at all. Who gives a shit if "schools already had their QB takes". If King is a legitimate 5 star QB schools would dump their current QB commit in a second. 

It’s a shame we’ll never know if aggy is 8-10 points better.  Guess we’ll never know since they hurt their vaginas and ran away.  Hope we never play them again.  27-25 bitches!

9 minutes ago, texifornia said:

"if I'm objective"

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Holy shit, they are stupid.

5 minutes ago, satyanash said:

QBs can be late risers too. By the time King rose to the forefront a lot of schools already had their QB takes (including us). King is very much a five-star and A&M got unbelievably lucky.

Teams would take a legit 5-star and let their current QB decommit if he wanted to. King was underrated early on, but it's swung too far in the other direction, he's overrated now.

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Just now, Lonestar88 said:

Teams would take a legit 5-star and let their current QB decommit if he wanted to. King was underrated before, but it's swung to far in the other direction, he's overrated now.

This is the right take. King is a good player and probably deserved a bump. He's not a 5 star player. 

Lulz at satya's take that "schools already had their QB". If King was a 5 star QB and right there for the taking they would dump their current QB commit in a second. 

Any particularly reason aggy is fellating their OL so much? 

Just now, Bevo14 said:

Any particularly reason aggy is fellating their OL so much? 

Well, they call them cows.

8 minutes ago, satyanash said:

QBs can be late risers too. By the time King rose to the forefront a lot of schools already had their QB takes (including us). King is very much a five-star and A&M got unbelievably lucky.

No he's not. lol. He does not have 5 star talent.  

4 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

This is the right take. King is a good player and probably deserved a bump. He's not a 5 star player. 

Lulz at satya's take that "schools already had their QB". If King was a 5 star QB and right there for the taking they would dump their current QB commit in a second. 

I don't really buy that it's that easy to dump your QB. Usually they're one of the leaders in the class and one of the first to commit. Processing them is just asking for trouble. We wouldn't have dumped Card for JQJ and next year we won't dump Milroe right before the season if a 5* QB were available. 

9 minutes ago, satyanash said:

QBs can be late risers too. By the time King rose to the forefront a lot of schools already had their QB takes (including us). King is very much a five-star and A&M got unbelievably lucky.

Would a QB from ______ that ______ didn't offer ever be a 5 star? 

try Ohio, tOSU; Louisiana, LSU; Washington, UDub; Pennsylvania, Pedo State; the answer is "no" to all of them.  Add more if you like.

6 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Processing them is just asking for trouble. 

It depends on the talent of the current QB commit. If you have somebody like Card and JQJ it's not worth the trouble because they're already legit talents. In this case, our staff  thinks both are better than King regardless of ranking. 

But you're kidding yourself if you think it's "trouble" for a school to drop a decent QB for a perceived 5 star talent. Nearly every school in the country would do it. The blow back from processing players lasts a couple days and then nobody gives a shit. 

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You could argue that LSU should have processed one of their two QB commits.

2 minutes ago, Machinator said:

You could argue that LSU should have processed one of their two QB commits.

You could argue a lot of things about LSU, but intelligence isn’t in that set. 

23 minutes ago, satyanash said:

QBs can be late risers too. By the time King rose to the forefront a lot of schools already had their QB takes (including us). King is very much a five-star and A&M got unbelievably lucky.

 

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

You could argue a lot of things about LSU, but intelligence isn’t in that set. 

Especially when it comes to QB evaluation. 

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

You could argue that LSU should have processed one of their two QB commits.

I think LSU is basically it. If people are really going to die on this hill their entire argument basically comes down to LSU because King was sold on the SEC. The lack of blue bloods in King's recruitment wasn't weird because he wouldn't look at most of them and a lot of the good SEC schools had their QBs early. 

"bUt LoOk At HiS oFfErS" is a very aggy argument and generally just annoying

Just now, HtownHorn said:

Holy shit, they are stupid.

This is the time of year where aggie championships are born and realized on paper.  Once the season starts, games replace camps for player value and upside.  If Aggie has good to great players, they will need to fend off the big SEC schools that beat them on Saturday in front of their recruits and then take signatures.  Additionally, none of the top SEC teams are afraid of the fighting aggie checkbook. 

1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I don't think A&M is going to be bad under Jimbo. I think he's a good recruiter. I think their problem is that they need Texas to be bad, and they don't realize that that part of the cycle just ran its course. 

He might be a good recruiter, but I wondered how much losing Brewster was going to hurt their recruiting. I'm not sold on Jimbo being an elite recruiter like I think Herman is. 

33 minutes ago, texifornia said:

"if I'm objective"

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They think they would beat us by double digits

Here are the teams A&M beat by double digits last year: NWST, ULM, Ole Miss, UAB, NC State

Just now, Bodacious Bevo said:

I think LSU is basically it. If people are really going to die on this hill their entire argument basically comes down to LSU because King was sold on the SEC. The lack of blue bloods in King's recruitment wasn't weird because he wouldn't look at most of them and a lot of the good SEC schools had their QBs early. 

"bUt LoOk At HiS oFfErS" is a very aggy argument and generally just annoying

1) You don't think offer lists matter when determining if a recruit is a 5 star talent? Couldn't be me. There are obviously some anomalies when it comes to offer lists and 5 stars but if the big boy schools aren't involved there's normally a reason why. 

2) It's almost like LSU is shit at evaluating QBs. There isn't years of evidence to prove this or anything. 

Who was the last successful doofus-looking qb?

2 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

I think LSU is basically it. If people are really going to die on this hill their entire argument basically comes down to LSU because King was sold on the SEC. The lack of blue bloods in King's recruitment wasn't weird because he wouldn't look at most of them and a lot of the good SEC schools had their QBs early. 

"bUt LoOk At HiS oFfErS" is a very aggy argument and generally just annoying

Looking at offers is an extremely valid and informative process when evaluating recruits. But you can't look at them alone if there's other information.

King is a very good prospect. But the fact that he was all SEC and it was a Texas A&M/Tennessee battle actually does say something regarding his prospect status. And it doesn't say "5-star". Not a big deal as he's still a good recruit and the 5-star status is fairly meaningless anyway if you know the kid is a Top 100 prospect.

3 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Who was the last successful doofus-looking qb?

The Manning brothers

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Looking at offers is an extremely valid and informative process when evaluating recruits. But you can't look at them alone if there's other information.

King is a very good prospect. But the fact that he was all SEC and it was a Texas A&M/Tennessee battle actually does say something regarding his prospect status. And it doesn't say "5-star". Not a big deal as he's still a good recruit and the 5-star status is fairly meaningless anyway if you know the kid is a Top 100 prospect.

SEC schools are out here throwing wads of cash at recruits and people think they would be scared to dump an average QB commit for a perceived 5 star talent? Hilarious. 

If some of those SEC schools thought King was a true 5 star talent they would have been all over him regardless of who they had committed. 

 

The Xfl is supposed to start play in February so I wonder if it'll be easier to process out kids this year because they may have a landing spot. Especially for schools like aggy whose schedules will be complete by early December at the latest. 

12 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

They think they would beat us by double digits

 

So did Georgia.

2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

o rly

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The old "it happened to Clemson so it's obviously going to happen to us too" line of thinking. 

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Weren't we all upset that these guys didn't come to Texas? They were prize linemen as I recall.

No, we were desperate for anything that would help stop the bleeding. Cauterization, a tourniquet, a Band-Aid, styptic pencil, a clothes pin, anything!

41 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

No he's not. lol. He does not have 5 star talent.  

Correct. To me, he's about a Shane Buechele-level player right now. He had a lot of great athletes on his team, so he really didn't have to carry them on his shoulders. He had to lead his peers and distribute the ball- things coaches' kids are often pretty good at.

King would get destroyed in our offense. He would get carried off the field in pieces in his first game, which I'm sure is part of why we didn't recruit him. He is a much better fit with aggy's style of play.

Just now, Tex Pete said:

Correct. To me, he's about a Shane Buechele-level player right now. He had a lot of great athletes on his team, so he really didn't have to carry them on his shoulders. He had to lead his peers and distribute the ball- things coaches' kids are often pretty good at.

King would get destroyed in our offense. He would get carried off the field in pieces in his first game, which I'm sure is part of why we didn't recruit him. He is a much better fit with aggy's style of play.

I don't think aggie's 330lbs 5 guard oline is going to be much better for him. 

"Fisher is a better coach than Herman..."

If only they had played each other in a bowl game or something.  Then we would know for sure.

Jimbo didn't want to be there you stupid sip.

1 minute ago, Scholz said:

"Fisher is a better coach than Herman..."

If only they had played each other in a bowl game or something.  Then we would know for sure.

I think that has happened, but if I remember right, FSU didn't want to play in that bowl so those results don't count

17 minutes ago, Scholz said:

"Fisher is a better coach than Herman..."

If only they had played each other in a bowl game or something.  Then we would know for sure.

But what if one coach had a more talented team than the other due to natural in built advantages related to the school they coached at and not necessarily their own abilities? Oh, the coach beat one of the elite new money teams with a G5 team? Fucking lol.

9 minutes ago, BurntOrangeCrush said:

I think that has happened, but if I remember right, FSU didn't want to play in that bowl so those results don't count

Note that all the Real.  Recruiting.  that jimbo did at FSU couldn’t parlay their decided talent advantage on the field and on the sidelines into a win. That’s how important the wanting to be there is. 

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