December 27, 20213 yr 9 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said: Baker seems like the kind of guy who'd invite himself over, ask to use the head, and then clog your toilet. Then just try to flush it over and over until it overflowed. Yep.
December 27, 20213 yr 5 minutes ago, Deej said: His contract expires next year. Cleveland isn't eating anything. I'm thinking if he's traded before the end of next season.
December 27, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, The Dog said: I'm thinking if he's traded before the end of next season. Someone will pay him 10M+ a year for at least 4 years with half that guaranteed.
December 27, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, The Dog said: I'm thinking if he's traded before the end of next season. Why would anyone make that trade? Anyone trading for him when they can just wait until the end of the season to get him for pennies on the dollar is an idiot.
December 27, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, Deej said: Why would anyone make that trade? Anyone trading for him when they can just wait until the end of the season to get him for pennies on the dollar is an idiot. There are some really poorly run NFL teams and one of them might think that Baker got a bad deal in Cleveland and would do it in order to get him and see if they could make a playoff run. It's highly unlikely but look at the Texans, Lions, Jets, Giants, Jaguars, and Bears. All are capable of using incredibly poor judgment and doing something like this.
December 27, 20213 yr 38 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said: Baker seems like the kind of guy who'd invite himself over, ask to use the head, and then clog your toilet. https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2009/06/thomas-friedman-clogged-my-toilet-1.html
December 27, 20213 yr 46 minutes ago, Chopper said: Those kind of stats are useless without knowing how the average NFL QB fares in such situations. But still, 2-14 seems anti-clutch.
December 27, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said: Then just try to flush it over and over until it overflowed. Yep. Or, worse, he'd leave the proverbial "double deuce."
December 27, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Brothahorn said: One Baker's biggest problems is his coach is a fool. Chubb ran 17 for 126. He should never have less than 25 when healthy and Baker is his QB. Not when Kareem Hunt is healthy; that’s the best 1-2 RB combo in the NFL…
December 27, 20213 yr 51 minutes ago, Helobious said: Those kind of stats are useless without knowing how the average NFL QB fares in such situations. But still, 2-14 seems anti-clutch. Agreed. This article said 37.9% success rate in 2020. Only one year but over 100 drives. So league average in 16 chances would be 6-10 versus his 2-14. https://www.milehighreport.com/platform/amp/2021/8/3/22559449/nfl-quarterback-success-and-failure-in-2020-on-late-game-drives-when-trailing Edited December 27, 20213 yr by Huckleberry
December 27, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said: Do the unlikeable, irritating qbs get the same number of chances as the hard working and quiet ones of similar talent level? They seem to get more chances.
December 27, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, The Dog said: Pretty much this. If Cleveland doesn't contend next year then he'll probably be traded for draft picks but only if the Browns eat some of the contract. He's the very definition of "serviceable". The thing is, he's surrounded by dudes in Cleveland so teams are going to wonder how he'll do on a team that isn't as loaded as the Browns. This is exactly it. If he can't produce surrounded by good talent, then where can he produce? The Browns run the fuck outta the ball, and Baker still can't make any headway in the passing game or even make the D respect him in their schemes. Imagine this POS on a team that doesn't have that kind of OL, running game, or weapons (i.e. most teams), where he'd have to throw the ball more often and in worse down & distance scenarios where the D knows what's coming. The social media posts from his stupid af bitch wife alone would be off the charts hilarious. Edited December 27, 20213 yr by wood
December 27, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, The Dog said: There are some really poorly run NFL teams and one of them might think that Baker got a bad deal in Cleveland and would do it in order to get him and see if they could make a playoff run. It's highly unlikely but look at the Texans, Lions, Jets, Giants, Jaguars, and Bears. All are capable of using incredibly poor judgment and doing something like this. LOL, yep. And if he weren't playing for the Browns already, they'd probably be stupid enough to trade for him.
December 27, 20213 yr Just now, MissingInAction said: Has any ou sux QB not been a total bust in the nfl? Kyler Murray I guess.
December 27, 20213 yr 5 hours ago, TurkeyChew said: As a #1 overall pick he's clearly a bust. As a QB in the NFL he's probably got another decade in him, bouncing from various teams and oscillating between starter and back-up. He's basically a more unlikable Ryan Fitzpatrick. Or Colt McCoy? <ducks>
December 27, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Lat22 said: Or Colt McCoy? <ducks> Huh? Why would you duck after saying that? Did you think you were making some sort of provocative post because it's a Texas board or something? Sorry, your look at me effort fell flat.
December 27, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Ignatius said: Not when Kareem Hunt is healthy; that’s the best 1-2 RB combo in the NFL… their 3rd string guy also flashed here and there. my 2 cents. BM reminds me of squints. Hyper strong arm from texas HS system and can toss the ball GDG sideways style like a champ. However has no touch. On the other hand it is nice to see a guy like Josh Allen get some touch on his throws (in addition to just being a strong arm guy) Aaron Rodgers is the high bar for touch. There has to be something in between the two, but I am afraid thats like 3 or 4 guys tops in teh league at any one moment who can both sling it and throw with the right touch.
December 28, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, Chopper said: I choose to view this as when they need to score but can’t rely on the running game and have to rely on the qb. Spectacular failure. out of the 30 or so browns qbs over the past 20 seasons, how many have had good results as a starting qb in the nfl for any extended period of their post-browns career? you’d think the nfl teams would notice the pattern and stop considering qbs that get pooped out of the browns losing machine.
December 28, 20213 yr Baker had 2 chances in the divisional round against KC to win that game and advance to the AFC title game but miserably failed both times. You put the ball in his hands when the game is on the line and bad things will usually happen. I will cut him a little slack because he has had a different OC I believe each of his 4 seasons but still, his mechanics just are not that good. I have zero idea why they drafted him #1 overall. They had a chance to get either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Either would be better. But it's Cleveland so it would not be them if they actually hit on a QB. That should be their #1 priority this offseason. If you roll Baker out there again, you are going nowhere.
December 28, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, Helobious said: Those kind of stats are useless without knowing how the average NFL QB fares in such situations. But still, 2-14 seems anti-clutch. Baker sucks but agree that statement means little without context. time remaining, how many TO's, field position...
December 28, 20213 yr 59 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said: Baker had 2 chances in the divisional round against KC to win that game and advance to the AFC title game but miserably failed both times. You put the ball in his hands when the game is on the line and bad things will usually happen. I will cut him a little slack because he has had a different OC I believe each of his 4 seasons but still, his mechanics just are not that good. I have zero idea why they drafted him #1 overall. They had a chance to get either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Either would be better. But it's Cleveland so it would not be them if they actually hit on a QB. That should be their #1 priority this offseason. If you roll Baker out there again, you are going nowhere. And the original Browns franchise (the Ravens) stole LJ at #32 after the Browns took Baker #1. The level of incompetence of some NFL personnel people is just staggering.
December 28, 20213 yr 37 minutes ago, wood said: And the original Browns franchise (the Ravens) stole LJ at #32 after the Browns took Baker #1. The level of incompetence of some NFL personnel people is just staggering. In all honesty, I don’t think LJ has the same success anywhere else. The Baltimore staff is one of the best.
December 28, 20213 yr 6 hours ago, Brothahorn said: One Baker's biggest problems is his coach is a fool. Chubb ran 17 for 126. He should never have less than 25 when healthy and Baker is his QB. Absolutely. It’s like this every game. D’E Johnson isn’t bad either. When Hunt is healthy they should run no less than 35 times per game. Mayfield’s ceiling is Flacco. Start playing to your strengths. KS should be fired if they miss the playoffs. New guy needs to turn BM into a bus driver. That’s all he is. And then move him after ‘22 season.
December 28, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, staboner said: their 3rd string guy also flashed here and there. my 2 cents. BM reminds me of squints. Hyper strong arm from texas HS system and can toss the ball GDG sideways style like a champ. However has no touch. On the other hand it is nice to see a guy like Josh Allen get some touch on his throws (in addition to just being a strong arm guy) Aaron Rodgers is the high bar for touch. There has to be something in between the two, but I am afraid thats like 3 or 4 guys tops in teh league at any one moment who can both sling it and throw with the right touch. Baker’s problem is he doesn’t have the arm talent. I don’t pay too much attention to big arms, but in the league, there are probably none bigger than Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Stafford, Herbert, Wentz and Lawrence. Mayfield doesn’t have anywhere near that arm - not even Dak’s. He looks more like Case McCoy in the NFL, relatively speaking. It’s noticeable every time I see him play. 34 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said: In all honesty, I don’t think LJ has the same success anywhere else. The Baltimore staff is one of the best. I don’t think LJ is that good. I think his MVP year was an anomaly and while efficient because he could run, he couldn’t really pass then and hasn’t developed at all (he’s regressed). If I were an NFL GM, I doubt he’d be in my Top 10 of QBs I’d pick.
December 28, 20213 yr Why is he in so many commercials? Aren't even Browns fans sick of him by now? Does he really have any appeal to people outside of Cleveland or the landthief fanbases?
December 28, 20213 yr 38 minutes ago, 'stache said: Why is he in so many commercials? Aren't even Browns fans sick of him by now? Does he really have any appeal to people outside of Cleveland or the landthief fanbases? C'mon, man. He does have a little talent.
December 28, 20213 yr 51 minutes ago, Davis Lane said: C'mon, man. He does have a little talent. Milkman.
December 29, 20213 yr Baker had 2 chances in the divisional round against KC to win that game and advance to the AFC title game but miserably failed both times. You put the ball in his hands when the game is on the line and bad things will usually happen. I will cut him a little slack because he has had a different OC I believe each of his 4 seasons but still, his mechanics just are not that good. I have zero idea why they drafted him #1 overall. They had a chance to get either Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Either would be better. But it's Cleveland so it would not be them if they actually hit on a QB. That should be their #1 priority this offseason. If you roll Baker out there again, you are going nowhere. Yea but in free agency. the draft seems like it will suck for QBs. Lots and lots of good o and d linemen will go top ten it seems.
January 3, 20223 yr Nothing like knowing the Browns have been eliminated from the playoffs before Baker's last stand Monday night at Pittsburgh. Suck it, douchebag.
January 3, 20223 yr I want to see Minshew take over the Browns, dude needs to start somewhere and he will be cheap to build around.
January 3, 20223 yr On 12/27/2021 at 8:39 PM, Porterhouse said: Baker’s problem is he doesn’t have the arm talent. I don’t pay too much attention to big arms, but in the league, there are probably none bigger than Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Stafford, Herbert, Wentz and Lawrence. Mayfield doesn’t have anywhere near that arm - not even Dak’s. He looks more like Case McCoy in the NFL, relatively speaking. It’s noticeable every time I see him play. I don’t think LJ is that good. I think his MVP year was an anomaly and while efficient because he could run, he couldn’t really pass then and hasn’t developed at all (he’s regressed). If I were an NFL GM, I doubt he’d be in my Top 10 of QBs I’d pick. Nope...he can sling it. He just sucks PFF said 2nd one was longest throw in the air they've charted
January 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dennis Taylor said: Nope...he can sling it. He just sucks PFF said 2nd one was longest throw in the air they've charted PFF says Tyron Smith is the 4th best offensive lineman in all of football, so…..
January 3, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, lilMAC25 said: PFF says Tyron Smith is the 4th best offensive lineman in all of football, so….. One of those things is very subjective and the other is measuring how far a ball went
January 3, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said: Nope...he can sling it. He just sucks PFF said 2nd one was longest throw in the air they've charted Most NFL QBs can throw those. His velocity is simply not there. He doesn’t have a big arm.
January 3, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said: Nope...he can sling it. He just sucks PFF said 2nd one was longest throw in the air they've charted Arm strength isn’t measured by how far you can throw. It’s measured by how quick the 10 yard out to the opposite side of the field gets to the receiver.
January 3, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, Porterhouse said: Most NFL QBs can throw those. His velocity is simply not there. He doesn’t have a big arm. A company that provides analysis for literally all pro and major college football teams and has 850k+ followers on Twitter says he has the longest throw, but Porterhouse from the internet says nah....OK bud... I'm not saying he has the strongest arm. Just that arm strength isn't his problem. He has several problems, like decision making, touch, accuracy, leadership, liability and on and on. But he can throw it a long way. If one of you physicists wants to explain how being able to throw it 70 yards doesn't prove its a strong arm please feel free and show your work Edited January 3, 20223 yr by Dennis Taylor
January 3, 20223 yr The man's name is Baker. He's clearly in the wrong profession. This is not entirely his fault.
January 3, 20223 yr On 12/28/2021 at 3:09 PM, Davis Lane said: C'mon, man. He does have a little talent. Trying to decide who stole from whom
January 3, 20223 yr 33 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said: A company that provides analysis for literally all pro and major college football teams and has 850k+ followers on Twitter says he has the longest throw, but Porterhouse from the internet says nah....OK bud... I'm not saying he has the strongest arm. Just that arm strength isn't his problem. He has several problems, like decision making, touch, accuracy, leadership, liability and on and on. But he can throw it a long way. If one of you physicists wants to explain how being able to throw it 70 yards doesn't prove its a strong arm please feel free and show your work Because the guys I named all can do it too. They just haven’t had the opportunity to Uncle Rico the ball in a live game setting. The difference is, they have markedly stronger arms. He cannot make throws with the velocity they have. Arm talent is an issue with him.
January 4, 20223 yr LMAO. Suck a dick, Faker. I dunno how strong his arm actually is or isn't, but that pick really hung up there.
January 4, 20223 yr Mayfield looks like a guy that is terrified of TJ Watt. Watt really gave him the business on that last possession.
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