August 3, 20205 yr It looks like a bunch of black TCU players are defending Patterson. Sounds like a bit of an Adam James situation going on.
August 3, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said: It looks like a bunch of black TCU players are defending Patterson. Sounds like a bit of an Adam James situation going on. Seems like it wasn't malicious at all in context, but what a huge fucking unforced error to say it out loud.
August 3, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, texifornia said: Seems like it wasn't malicious at all in context, but what a huge fucking unforced error to say it out loud. Very stupid, but not fireable. Especially if the majority of players weren't offended.
August 3, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, Neonmoon said: Yeah, he obviously was trying to get people to stop saying the word, but even then...maybe you don't say the word either.
August 3, 20205 yr Everyone loves a story where the answer is "everyone involved was kind of a dipshit"
August 3, 20205 yr He shouldn't need to verbalize it but it's his locker room and it sounds like the player in question is kind of a diva. As long as his team defends him it shouldn't take more than a decent PR statement. I wouldn't think TCU would fire the greatest coach in their program's history over this but Tech did over something somewhat similar in scope so who knows.
August 3, 20205 yr Lol he's not getting fired. Just further adds to the narrative that GP is kinda somewhat of a major asshole, which is just fine for us.
August 3, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, texifornia said: Seems like it wasn't malicious at all in context, but what a huge fucking unforced error to say it out loud. Agreed, very stupid but even by the version of the story told by the player not malicious and no significant action should come out of it. I will say, some people hate hearing that word because they genuinely hate the word and the hate associated with it. There is a certain type of racist though who is hung up on the fact that black people are "allowed" to use it but white people get shit for using it in any context. I'm not saying that Patterson is that type of asshole, but we do know he is some type of asshole so who knows.
August 3, 20205 yr Popular Post 2020 - when coach getting on a player to stop saying an offensive word by telling him the word he keeps saying, suddenly makes the coach the bad guy...
August 3, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, MonkeyDoughnut said: 2020 - when coach getting on a player to stop saying an offensive word by telling him the word he keeps saying, suddenly makes the coach the bad guy... You seem weirdly insistent that there's a time and place where it's normal and fine for a white dude to say the n-word. Certainly not a fireable offense given the context that's come out, but come the fuck on that was rock stupid.
August 3, 20205 yr Maybe keep off twitter and sort things like this out internally? Eh? Maybe? I mean fine by me if TCU looks bad but come on...
August 3, 20205 yr 43 minutes ago, ztejas said: He shouldn't need to verbalize it but it's his locker room and it sounds like the player in question is kind of a diva. As long as his team defends him it shouldn't take more than a decent PR statement. I wouldn't think TCU would fire the greatest coach in their program's history over this but Tech did over something somewhat similar in scope so who knows.
August 3, 20205 yr 49 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said: 2020 - when coach getting on a player to stop saying an offensive word by telling him the word he keeps saying, suddenly makes the coach the bad guy... You would think in a country as oppressive and racist as America that people wouldn't need to fabricate racism.
August 3, 20205 yr 51 minutes ago, texifornia said: You seem weirdly insistent that there's a time and place where it's normal and fine for a white dude to say the n-word. He’s not alone. That is the Cliff Notes of the Eyes of Texas thread. @Apex73 led a big charge on that thread saying that black people are weak for getting offended by words, he had a lot of support.
August 3, 20205 yr 52 minutes ago, texifornia said: You seem weirdly insistent that there's a time and place where it's normal and fine for a white dude to say the n-word. Certainly not a fireable offense given the context that's come out, but come the fuck on that was rock stupid. Never okay to say it - especially not in front of black people - but I would argue that a and er aren't the same word and it should matter which he said. There's a different conviction required to drop an er.
August 3, 20205 yr Seems like a fun, wholesome, upbeat locker room culture ol’ Paddington Bear has going on there.
August 3, 20205 yr Patterson is teflon in Fort Worth. to paraphrase a famous a-hole, he could shoot somebody on West 7th and nobody would want him fired.
August 3, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, texifornia said: You seem weirdly insistent that there's a time and place where it's normal and fine for a white dude to say the n-word. Certainly not a fireable offense given the context that's come out, but come the fuck on that was rock stupid. Didn't say wasn't stupid, but to call him a racist for it is definitely stupid.
August 3, 20205 yr I don't see where he SHOULD be fired for that comment, given the context. This horseshit of demanding everyone make an act of contrition to the cause is right out of the religion for idiots playbook.
August 3, 20205 yr Scenario 1 - Quote Player: "Hey dude, go fuck yourself" Coach: "Hey Player, we don't tell people to go fuck yourself in a meeting. Stop doing that." Does anyone get offended? Scenario 2 - Quote Player: "Whats up my niggas?" Coach: "Hey Player, we don't say niggas in our meetings. Stop doing that." The world comes to an end. Perfectly logical, perfectly sane. That being said, I realize the world is full of stupid people, so I'd be using "n word" as well because I'm probably interested in continuing to pick up my $5 million salary and realize that something as simple as context no longer matters. Side question for the lawyers in the room. If a defendant dropped the hard "r" in a conversation that is relevant to the preceeding, can that be discussed in court? Or does everyone swap out "n word" and pretend that they are accurately depicting the conversation.
August 3, 20205 yr https://johnvogel.football/2020/08/03/tcu-football-player-takes-internal-story-public-rebuked-by-teammates It appears a lot of TCU players are becoming vocal about this and they're not angry at Patterson, they're angry at Dylan Jordan. Honestly, reading his post he went public with it sounds like a butt hurt malcontent that was pissed he didn't have a starting gig handed to him and he had an ulterior motive. He accused Gary Patterson of attacking him racially and that wasn't the case which was confirmed by numerous players. Edited August 3, 20205 yr by Chad
August 3, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Chad said: https://johnvogel.football/2020/08/03/tcu-football-player-takes-internal-story-public-rebuked-by-teammates It appears a lot of TCU players are becoming vocal about this and they're not angry at Patterson, they're angry at Dylan Jordan. well yea because they get playing time lol
August 3, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, Blotto said: Scenario 1 - Does anyone get offended? Scenario 2 - The world comes to an end. Perfectly logical, perfectly sane. That being said, I realize the world is full of stupid people, so I'd be using "n word" as well because I'm probably interested in continuing to pick up my $5 million salary and realize that something as simple as context no longer matters. Side question for the lawyers in the room. If a defendant dropped the hard "r" in a conversation that is relevant to the preceeding, can that be discussed in court? Or does everyone swap out "n word" and pretend that they are accurately depicting the conversation. ...that's because fuckface doesn't imply anything about the person saying it or the person it's directed at other than that you don't like them. Like any racial slur the n word has a shit load of seriously fraught baggage attached to it. Edited August 3, 20205 yr by texifornia
August 3, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, Chad said: https://johnvogel.football/2020/08/03/tcu-football-player-takes-internal-story-public-rebuked-by-teammates It appears a lot of TCU players are becoming vocal about this and they're not angry at Patterson, they're angry at Dylan Jordan. Yeah no one comes out of this looking like they've had a full day of making smart choices.
August 3, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, Enchubben said: well yea because they get playing time lol Zach Evans punched his Black HS FB coach for taking his phone away. You think he's going to sit and chill if a White coach called a Black player a racial slur?
August 3, 20205 yr 26 minutes ago, Blotto said: Scenario 1 - Does anyone get offended? Scenario 2 - The world comes to an end. Perfectly logical, perfectly sane. That being said, I realize the world is full of stupid people, so I'd be using "n word" as well because I'm probably interested in continuing to pick up my $5 million salary and realize that something as simple as context no longer matters. Side question for the lawyers in the room. If a defendant dropped the hard "r" in a conversation that is relevant to the preceeding, can that be discussed in court? Or does everyone swap out "n word" and pretend that they are accurately depicting the conversation. I wouldn’t call a large number of the black players on the team coming to Patterson’s defense “the world coming to an end”. Ironically enough you would probably say they’re the easily offended ones.
August 3, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, slorch said: I don't see where he SHOULD be fired for that comment, given the context. This horseshit of demanding everyone make an act of contrition to the cause is right out of the religion for idiots playbook. It is not like he locked somebody in a closet or anything really serious. This is a non-story, one of those insane social media things.
August 3, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, Valmy77 said: It is not like he locked somebody in a closet or anything really serious. This is a non-story, one of those insane social media things. sort of like the "locking someone in a closet" didn't happen?
August 4, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Chad said: https://johnvogel.football/2020/08/03/tcu-football-player-takes-internal-story-public-rebuked-by-teammates It appears a lot of TCU players are becoming vocal about this and they're not angry at Patterson, they're angry at Dylan Jordan. Honestly, reading his post he went public with it sounds like a butt hurt malcontent that was pissed he didn't have a starting gig handed to him and he had an ulterior motive. He accused Gary Patterson of attacking him racially and that wasn't the case which was confirmed by numerous players. Jussie Toad.
August 4, 20205 yr Poor Zach Evans can’t catch a break. I feel bad for him.... just kidding, fuck that kid!!
August 4, 20205 yr 3 hours ago, slorch said: sort of like the "locking someone in a closet" didn't happen? Yes. Firing somebody over nothing.
August 4, 20205 yr Author Patterson won't get fired over this. Especially if a good amount of his black players are backing him. He'll make a public apology, then move on.
August 4, 20205 yr 11 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said: Poor Zach Evans can’t catch a break. I feel bad for him.... just kidding, fuck that kid!! Remember when Zach Evans said Texas wasn't like UGA, LSU, Bama, etc. This was after we curb stomped UGA in the sugar bowl. That he only wanted to play at schools that were on a different level. Then he ended up at a shit school that wasn't even bowl eligible and hasn't won shit in their history. It's funny how things work out...
August 4, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, victory88 said: Remember when Zach Evans said Texas wasn't like UGA, LSU, Bama, etc. This was after we curb stomped UGA in the sugar bowl. That he only wanted to play at schools that were on a different level. Then he ended up at a shit school that wasn't even bowl eligible and hasn't won shit in their history. It's funny how things work out... Zach Evans is a fucking shit head
August 4, 20205 yr 58 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said: Patterson won't get fired over this. Especially if a good amount of his black players are backing him. He'll make a public apology, then move on. True but that doesn't mean we can't negative recruit the shit out of him over this though. Like he does constantly to us. Fuck that little fatty.
August 4, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Scholz said: True but that doesn't mean we can't negative recruit the shit out of him over this though. Like he does constantly to us. Fuck that little fatty.
August 4, 20205 yr 21 hours ago, texifornia said: So he definitely dropped some form of n-word in the meeting, which, come the fuck on dude. That's hilariously tone deaf for a) the modern era and b) this moment in time specifically. Is it fireable? Idk. Is it absolutely going to effect recruiting? Yup. *affect
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