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What the fuck is going on in Houston? To lose Hopkins for pretty much nothing and now Watson might want out? Yikes. If Houston is dumb enough to fuck this up, what would be the haul they could get for Watson?

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Yes, he gone!

(Would trade Dak to get Deshaun in a heartbeat!)

I think he's gone. Too much smoke around for something not to go down. Hate to say it, but I think JJ probably played his last game in Reliant as well. 

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9 minutes ago, jeevsie said:

So you're saying Dak for Deshaun?

Sure. We will throw in Jaylon Smith as well for their troubles...

6 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Yes, he gone!

(Would trade Dak to get Deshaun in a heartbeat!)

I can only dream 

Hopefully he somehow goes to the Saints

8 minutes ago, BabaBooey said:

JJ probably played his last game in Reliant as well. 

JJ is having a meeting with owners tomorrow.  / per source (not pancakes)

Damn shame. Houston had several pieces in place these past couple seasons. Super close to putting together something really, rally good.

I'm a chiefs fan, so I'm ambivalent towards Houston other than marveling at how badly the owner, gm, and coach have fucked them over in the past 12 months. I really like Watson as a player though and hope he is able to find success in a better environment. 

The owner has his head squarely up Easterby’s ass. I remember when the late owner was likening giving players more power to kneel or not kneel to inmates running the asylum. Not at all similar to how this team is being run. Lulz. Would love to see Watson with Shanahan or McVay...a dynamic play caller. I don’t even know if they hired Bienemy that it would salvage the relationship

The Texans organization makes Jerry look competent.

The Texans should 100% take the position that if Deshaun Watson wishes to play football, it will be for the Texans.

 

5 minutes ago, demos said:

The Texans organization makes Jerry look competent.

Whoa whoa whoa.  The high thread is that way ---------->

9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The Texans should 100% take the position that if Deshaun Watson wishes to play football, it will be for the Texans.

 

they have

18 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I remember when the late owner was likening giving players more power to kneel or not kneel to inmates running the asylum.

in actuality he was referring to owners of other teams and not the team/players.  it was on a conference call that was leaked out of context. 

3 minutes ago, demos said:

The Texans organization makes Jerry look competent.

At the very least, I'd rather have my owner running around with hookers and blow than Easterby the yo-yo.

2 minutes ago, TexasGolf said:

in actuality he was referring to owners of other teams and not the team/players.  it was on a conference call that was leaked out of context. 

You got a link for that?

17 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The Texans should 100% take the position that if Deshaun Watson wishes to play football, it will be for the Texans.

 

Nobody wants to argue with you, not in this thread or the Texans thread. Go lay bait traps somewhere else

1 hour ago, conVINCEd said:

Miami for Tua plus picks makes a lot sense.

Yep.  Well, I wouldn't want Tua but I'd take 1.3, 1.18 and another first next year for him.  Get your future QB at 1.3 and recoup some of the picks traded away by BoB.  It's very easy to blame BoB and he deserves the criticism, however, holy shit, this is starting to sound like it's a huge ownership and management issue.  Who would have thought anyone would want Bob McNair back?  Yikes.  I think he's gone.  The only hope is everyone has stiff Bienemy and maybe if they scoop him up, Watson will decide to stay, but it's maybe the worst HC job in football right now.

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

Hopefully he somehow goes to the Saints

Salary cap won't let them.  It's Hill or Crablegs on a cheap deal most likely.

Could you imagine living through the years where you were literally a qb away from being special, then you get a special qb that forces his way out. 

1 minute ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Nobody wants to argue with you, not in this thread or the Texans thread. Go lay bait traps somewhere else

It's not a bait trap. It's acknowledging that playing football for another team is not Deshaun Watson's decision to make. The national media should stop portraying it as such.

5 minutes ago, TexasGolf said:

in actuality he was referring to owners of other teams and not the team/players.  it was on a conference call that was leaked out of context. 

He may not have expected someone to think he meant it literally, but it was not on a conference call taken out of context

Texans Owner Apologizes After Comparing NFL Protests to 'Inmates Running the Prison'

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At a recent meeting of NFL owners and league executives regarding player protests, Texans owner Robert McNair warned his fellow owners that the league should avoid having "inmates running the prison," ESPN's Seth Wickersham and Don Van Natta Jr. report.

McNair made the comment as he urged the room to consider the effect of protests on the league's business, according to ESPN's in-depth examination of how owners have responded in recent weeks to protests. 

"We can't have the inmates running the prison," McNair reportedly said, referring to NFL players.  

The meeting took place last week in New York, one day after a small group of owners met with a handful of players about ongoing protests during the national anthem. 

NFL executive Troy Vincent, a former player, later stood up and said he was offended by McNair's comment, according to ESPN. 

After the owners finished, Troy Vincent stood up. He was offended by McNair's characterization of the players as "inmates." Vincent said that in all his years of playing in the NFL -- during which, he said, he had been called every name in the book, including the N-word -- he never felt like an "inmate."

McNair subsequently apologized to Vincent and told him he didn't mean for his words to be taken literally, ESPN reports. 

 

 

 

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But a source close to Watson told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that firing Easterby would not resolve the issue, saying that "Cal McNair would have to fire Cal McNair."

 

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39 minutes ago, demos said:

The Texans organization makes Jerry look competent.

The McNair's are the Joneses without the rings. 

 

No matter how bad you hate Jerry, you enjoyed those 3 super bowls. I bet you did.

 

And FTR I think they will kiss and makeup.

Edited by Brothahorn

I worked closely with the Harris County Houston Sports  Authority and was privy to enough  interactions with the McNairs.

 

They are of the  prosperity gospel mindset, they think they are rich because they are more moral than others. And therefore the better you are morally the more successful you will be. Hence why Cal loves Easterby , " immorality" is why the rid themselves from Nuke, its why theyve made several personnel decisions  not just football.. its reached a breaking point and many inside the organization current and former just want to blow the whole thing up

 

people have been fired for affairs, being gay even having a gay family members... when they left  they were given a generous pay out because the Texans have no problem spending$$. Much more to come

12 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

 

 

 

Wow. There are no words. But they almost had to do this after BoB. They need to rebuild. And need draft picks. I hope JJ Watt demands a trade also. They could probably swap for Goff or Carr and some picks. Maybe Stafford? I’d rather see Watson with a great team and dynamic play caller. If the Texans weren’t such dumb mofos I’d say they sabotaged the relationship with Watson on purpose so he’d leave. 

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21 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:

He may not have expected someone to think he meant it literally, but it was not on a conference call taken out of context

Texans Owner Apologizes After Comparing NFL Protests to 'Inmates Running the Prison'

 

Owners and NFL were having disagreements.  Nothing to do with kneeling or protests.  Bob called out NFL saying "you (NFL) work for us, we (Owners) don't work for you" - hence inmates running the prison analogy.  Vincent got mad, power play and went to the press.  Total out of context BS. 

I think part of the problem is that Cal treats the Texans like it is a charity. So he plays with it like a toy and shapes it as he sees fit. I don't think he treats it like an important business and makes decisions based on desires and not based upon making the team better.

13 minutes ago, OWLVIS said:

 

 

They are of the  prosperity gospel mindset, they think they are rich because they are more moral than others. And therefore the better you are morally the more successful you will be.

 

LOL 

22 minutes ago, OWLVIS said:

I worked closely with the Harris County Houston Sports  Authority and was privy to enough  interactions with the McNairs.

 

They are of the  prosperity gospel mindset, they think they are rich because they are more moral than others. And therefore the better you are morally the more successful you will be. Hence why Cal loves Easterby , " immorality" is why the rid themselves from Nuke, its why theyve made several personnel decisions  not just football.. its reached a breaking point and many inside the organization current and former just want to blow the whole thing up

 

people have been fired for affairs, being gay even having a gay family members... when they left  they were given a generous pay out because the Texans have no problem spending$$. Much more to come

Well that explains a lot. It also means more batshittery to come. This past year I thought it couldn’t get much worse but it is...and the Rockets are a mess. Htown be fucked up right now. 

They are a phenomenally awful organization. It’s incredible.

I love the Texans, but if they were set to receive a blowjob, they'd probably trade away a first rounder for the right to *give* the blowjob.

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Well that explains a lot. It also means more batshittery to come. This past year I thought it couldn’t get much worse but it is...and the Rockets are a mess. Htown be fucked up right now. 

As a die hard Rockets fan, seeing James leave sucks but this team has found a really really solid piece in Christian Wood to build around. I'm hopeful for the near future of the Rockets.  I hate the Texans.. so sorry?

The McNair's are the Joneses without the rings. 
 
No matter how bad you hate Jerry, you enjoyed those 3 super bowls. I bet you did.
 
And FTR I think they will kiss and makeup.

Oh, I’m not a Cowboys fan. Was an Oilers fan (Super Bowls would be nice). The Texans have not really done anything to win me over; this latest mess just the most recent example.
48 minutes ago, OWLVIS said:

 

 

They are of the  prosperity gospel mindset, they think because they are rich they are more moral than others.

fify

2 hours ago, TexasGolf said:

JJ is having a meeting with owners tomorrow.  / per source (not pancakes)

Let him go. He’s 31 and has 26.5 sacks over the last five seasons.

This whole story is missing direct quotes from identified sources.  Every comment is from an anonymous source.  

No one bothers to mentions that Watson signed a four year extension in September 2020 (4 months ago!), years after Easterby was hired and many months after Hopkins was traded.  

Watson's ability to "force a trade" is, at best, very limited.

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, withinyourreach said:

This whole story is missing direct quotes from identified sources.  Every comment is from an anonymous source.  

No one bothers to mentions that Watson signed a four year extension in September 2020 (4 months ago!), years after Easterby was hired and many months after Hopkins was traded.  

Watson's ability to "force a trade" is, at best, very limited.

 

 

 

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Nature abhors a vacuum and BoB's departure left a power vacuum in the organization.  Read the SI story if you want to understand when things got weird.  They were bleak before, but then it got weird.  

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