March 16, 20214 yr on a scale of 1-10, i think qs is a 3 and wins are a 5. neither is perfect, but i like the randomness of wins. most of our stats don't have much randomness.
March 25, 20214 yr holy shit, baseball season starts a week from today?? that certainly snuck up on me.
March 26, 20214 yr Author 1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said: holy shit, baseball season starts a week from today?? that certainly snuck up on me. i can't speak for you, but this fantasy hoops season has been a pretty intense one, with the projected playoff teams/bye teams all beating each other up all year, which has taken all of focus on how close we are to baseball season and lent it to hoops.
March 26, 20214 yr Did we do the draft order yet? As far as the stats talk above yall pick and let me know
March 26, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, UTPhil2006 said: Did we do the draft order yet? As far as the stats talk above yall pick and let me know 12. @huge 11. @APMP 10. @NorthLoop 9. @BigOrange1 8. @NOMAAA 7. @hitbyatrain 6. @Goo Punch 5. @Capn81 4. @Fawesome 3. @Planet Houston 2. @UTPhil2006 1. @henrygandorf
March 26, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Fawesome said: 12. @huge 11. @APMP 10. @NorthLoop 9. @BigOrange1 8. @NOMAAA 7. @hitbyatrain 6. @Goo Punch 5. @Capn81 4. @Fawesome 3. @Planet Houston 2. @UTPhil2006 1. @henrygandorf Nice. Completely missed that a month ago. Or forgot about it.
March 26, 20214 yr not for this year, but some potential rule tweaks for coming years: -if qs/w become obsolete, i've heard of leagues using ip. it's actually kinda interesting because of the way it can counteract your non-counting pitching stats. -i would consider going to an auction format. -we've discussed keepers, and i think i would be down for some sort of keeper format (starting with next year's draft). keepers can also work in tandem with auction, as you can set/keep the pricing, and turn it into a mini-dynasty mode. -i don't want to go full dynasty. i like the idea of being able to keep a small number of players for 1 year. i don't like the idea that somebody can draft juan soto and have them for a decade. fuck that noise.
March 26, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, henrygandorf said: not for this year, but some potential rule tweaks for coming years: -if qs/w become obsolete, i've heard of leagues using ip. it's actually kinda interesting because of the way it can counteract your non-counting pitching stats. -i would consider going to an auction format. -we've discussed keepers, and i think i would be down for some sort of keeper format (starting with next year's draft). keepers can also work in tandem with auction, as you can set/keep the pricing, and turn it into a mini-dynasty mode. -i don't want to go full dynasty. i like the idea of being able to keep a small number of players for 1 year. i don't like the idea that somebody can draft juan soto and have them for a decade. fuck that noise. Solid ideas and im surprised we haven't incorporated some keeper rules since most of us have been around for 5+ years.
March 26, 20214 yr generally, keepers can work in a variety of ways, and i agree, since it's ~ the same group every year, we should do it. things to consider: -whether it should be mandatory (every team has to keep a certain amount of players) -how it affects someone who abandons their team and needs to be replaced (we don't want to penalize a new owner) -if it's not mandatory, then what do you give up to keep someone (and what do you get for not keeping someone) -what are the rules for keeping? are there draft pick restrictions (meaning you can only keep guys drafted 10th round or later). does that guy have to be on your team the whole season? personally i think if you trade someone, that team then gets to keep him or he is unkeepable. but if you drop someone (injuries?) then you can still keep him. -how do you handle pickups? can you keep a pickup? that creates a frenzy at the end of the year with young guys and could be dangerous. -if we go to auction league setup, then keepers become clearer. you can keep for the price you bought + a certain % for a certain amount of years (if more than one, his salary should keep going up, but that's more dynasty shit, i prefer 1 year keepers). -if we keep it snake draft, then you should give up a draft pick to keep a certain player (this is how my main football leagues have operated for over a decade). i think now is the exact time to have these discussions (for 2022 and beyond) because now is when everyone is engaged. if you wait til november, nobody gives a shit. thoughts?
March 26, 20214 yr Keepers can get complicated fast. But, if we do kerpers, I like the idea of keepers with "progressive draft round" prices and a max number of consecutive years kept.At the risk of inviting a bunch of TLDRs, here's a proposal to get discussions started. A fantasy basketball league and a fantasy football league I was in have each used it successfully.1. Each year before the draft, you can keep zero, one, or two players from your previous season's roster. The vast majority of your roster must thus be drafted each year, which keeps things interesting even if you don't have anybody worth keeping.2. You cannot keep a guy if he was drafted (not kept, see below) the first 3 rounds in the previous season. This makes a bunch of superstars unkeepable each season. And you cannot keep a guy if he has been kept each of the past 3 seasons.3. If you keep a player, you forfeit the draft pick corresponding to N rounds before the round in which the player was drafted or kept the previous season. N=2 is a good balance imo. So, if N=2 and I drafted Otani in the 5th round in 2021, I can keep him instead of my 3rd round pick in 2022. I could also keep him for my 1st round pick in 2023, and if I did, my 1st round pick in 2024. In 2025 I could not keep him because of rule #2. 4. A player carries his keeper price tag all season long, even if dropped to waivers/free agency. So if I drop Ohtani after drafting him in the 5th, and HG then picks him up, it would cost HG a 3rd rounder to keep Ohtani next season.5. Any player not drafted or kept carries a Xth round keeper price for the following season. X can be set depending on how valuable a keeper you want a waiver wire gem to be the next 1-3 seasons (and directly controls if there is a potential young guy pickup frenzy at the end of the season). For example, lets say X=12, i.e., undrafted free agents can be kept in round 12 next year. Combining rules #3 and #5, if you keep two undrafted free agents next year, you would keep them in rounds 12 and 11.---If we do keepers, we should probably agree not to mess around with roster settings or scoring settings from here on out because doing so usually impacts keeper value.If we allow draft pick trades, there would be one more rule involved, but I'll assume I don't want draft pick trades.
March 28, 20214 yr Think we are a little close to the start of the season for changes this year, right?
March 28, 20214 yr Think we are a little close to the start of the season for changes this year, right?Not changing anything for this year. Talking 2022.
March 28, 20214 yr On 3/26/2021 at 11:47 AM, henrygandorf said: i think now is the exact time to have these discussions (for 2022 and beyond) because now is when everyone is engaged. if you wait til november, nobody gives a shit.
March 28, 20214 yr I vote to allow Dummy to keep Odor forever and ever amenI'm just the new guy but I would vote in favor of this.
March 29, 20214 yr i love the idea of an auction draft. feels so much more skillful than a normal snake draft. i'm ambivalent regrading keepers.
March 29, 20214 yr Author caveat emptor re: keepers- it makes doing mocks impossible. we switched to a keeper league in the shaggy hoops league a couple years ago, and while my keepers have been awesome and my teams have also been awesome, i definitely liked the league a lot better before we switched. my latest reason why: my team has been way out ahead of the pack for at least a few weeks now, so i have zero reason to make moves. meanwhile everyone who is out of contention for this year is having a fire sale, and everyone who wants to beat me in the playoffs is taking advantage. losing teams are trading guys who are out for the rest of the year for top 10-15 overall players. i'm sure that's awesome for teams 2-4 in our league, but it's been pretty aggravating for me. i vote 'no' on moving to a keeper league. i doubt that anyone else agrees, but i really don't like it. Edited March 29, 20214 yr by shadow_operative
March 29, 20214 yr i understand about mocking. the rest of your post i do not understand. i think keepers should be limited and only guys you drafted should be eligible. late season trades and fa pickups should not affect keepers.
March 29, 20214 yr If I am reading it correctly, the issue is that teams out of the playoffs trade for injured guys they will keep (because their Tommy John recovery will be complete by next year), and in doing so freely send studs in exchange to the playoff teams. Limiting the number of players each team can keep will usually fix that. And in my proposal two things address the problem: players drafted in rounds 1-3 can't be kept, and players carry their keeper cost all season long.
March 30, 20214 yr Author 9 hours ago, henrygandorf said: i understand about mocking. the rest of your post i do not understand. i think keepers should be limited and only guys you drafted should be eligible. late season trades and fa pickups should not affect keepers. see that makes more sense. that way Lamelo Ball (out for the year) doesn't get traded for Andre Drummond and Serge Ibaka, two very legit players. a contending team lost one of its best players and instead of it hurting him, he essentially just went and added a top 10 overall player from a super secret FA pool. meanwhile the team that sucked this year just added a keeper for a favor. that seems less than above board to me. Edited March 30, 20214 yr by shadow_operative
March 30, 20214 yr Author a couple of years ago when DJL joined NYY i drafted him with my final pick, but then dropped him week one. someone else added him, and he was an all star/mvp candidate. let's say that i had been able to add him back from the FA pool- would he still be a keeper for me?
March 30, 20214 yr a couple of years ago when DJL joined NYY i drafted him with my final pick, but then dropped him week one. someone else added him, and he was an all star/mvp candidate. let's say that i had been able to add him back from the FA pool- would he still be a keeper for me?I actually like having the option to keep a FA or trade addition. Otherwise every trade is for a rental, which seems weird for a keeper league.
March 30, 20214 yr surly assholes - i have agreed to also join the surly roto league (thread on the gambling board). they thought they could do it with an odd number of teams, but they cannot. if anybody else is interested, they need a 10th.
March 30, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, APMP said: 13 minutes ago, shadow_operative said: a couple of years ago when DJL joined NYY i drafted him with my final pick, but then dropped him week one. someone else added him, and he was an all star/mvp candidate. let's say that i had been able to add him back from the FA pool- would he still be a keeper for me? I actually like having the option to keep a FA or trade addition. Otherwise every trade is for a rental, which seems weird for a keeper league. well it's a keeper league. not a dynasty league. i don't really want to play in a dynasty league. i assume that would include draft pick trading (including future draft picks) and i don't think any of us have the will or brainpower to oversee that nonsense. to trade or not to trade someone you'd like to keep is part of the strategy (if we decide to do it that way). hopefully a few more people will chime in on what they're feeling. if everybody hates this, it's probably not worth the quibbling. same with the auction question.
March 30, 20214 yr Author yeah, at this point i just want to hear some more opinions from league members on each topic.
March 30, 20214 yr well it's a keeper league. not a dynasty league. i don't really want to play in a dynasty league. i assume that would include draft pick trading (including future draft picks) and i don't think any of us have the will or brainpower to oversee that nonsense. to trade or not to trade someone you'd like to keep is part of the strategy (if we decide to do it that way). hopefully a few more people will chime in on what they're feeling. if everybody hates this, it's probably not worth the quibbling. same with the auction question.Agreed on not wanting a dynasty league. That's why I prefer two keepers per team max and a draft pick being replaced for each guy you keep. Whether the guy was drafted by you or not doesn't matter as much to me.
March 30, 20214 yr so who's the treasurer, and how do we feel about coughing up the entry fee now and putting it all in bitcoin in hopes that the pot will be bigger upon payout?
March 30, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, henrygandorf said: so who's the treasurer, and how do we feel about coughing up the entry fee now and putting it all in bitcoin in hopes that the pot will be bigger upon payout? or we can buy some topshots. but yes, i vote to put it in crypto.
March 31, 20214 yr I hate you guys for having it at 9. I have a 530am flight to Chicago. That being said can’t wait to take Albies at 2
March 31, 20214 yr We doing this crypto thing? I love this idea. As long as everyone is fine with the possibility of it crashing too
March 31, 20214 yr i would prefer to wait until it's back to $55k or lower. but yes, i'm down to clown.
March 31, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, henrygandorf said: i would prefer to wait until it's back to $55k or lower. but yes, i'm down to clown. Poll posted on the ESPN main page. Go vote.
April 1, 20214 yr Solid draft. I give myself an A++Riding trout all the way to back to back championships.
April 1, 20214 yr 38 minutes ago, Fawesome said: Solid draft. I give myself an A++ Riding trout all the way to back to back championships. I was sweating the prospects of passing on Trout at 3 all day. Then I fucking missed my pick because of a work obligation I could not get out of. I guess it’s meant to be. Still not sure which way I would have gone. Good luck! Edited April 1, 20214 yr by Planet Houston
April 1, 20214 yr Author Vladdy, Whit, Javy, Mancini, and Cruz, all taken right before i was set to nab them. just a rrreeeaaaalllll pleasure drafting right next to you @Capn81.
April 1, 20214 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Planet Houston said: I was sweating the prospects of passing on Trout at 3 all day. Then I fucking missed my pick because of a work obligation I could not get out of. I guess it’s meant to be. Still not sure which way I would have gone. Good luck! Tatis is going to be unreal this year.
April 1, 20214 yr Author but hey, at least you jabronis left me the 2021 MVP all the way at pick 6. i had Jose Ramirez locked and loaded and then BAM- Soto just drops into my lap. preciate y'all.
April 1, 20214 yr Just now, shadow_operative said: Tatis is going to be unreal this year. Yeah I wasn't going to complain at ALL if Tatis fell to me at 4. I really enjoyed watching the Padres play last season and they are going to hella fun this year too.
April 1, 20214 yr Just now, shadow_operative said: but hey, at least you jabronis left me the 2021 MVP all the way at pick 6. i had Jose Ramirez locked and loaded and then BAM- Soto just drops into my lap. preciate y'all. Trout at 4 wasnt a sure thing. I had Soto queued up for about 5 seconds.
April 1, 20214 yr Vladdy, Whit, Javy, Mancini, and Cruz, all taken right before i was set to nab them. just a rrreeeaaaalllll pleasure drafting right next to you [mention=1142]Capn81[/mention]. Great minds...
April 1, 20214 yr Author 24 minutes ago, Fawesome said: Trout at 4 wasnt a sure thing. I had Soto queued up for about 5 seconds. at that point i was banking on you taking Trout because, let's be honest- if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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