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11 minutes ago, Etexhorn13 said:

Quit fucking smoking dude 

did he pass his test at the combine?  he can keep smoking all he wants as long as he doesn’t get arrested for it.

SF would've been bad news bc of the legal pot. MN is a much better place for him

7 minutes ago, futureman said:

did he pass his test at the combine?  he can keep smoking all he wants as long as he doesn’t get arrested for it.

No idea about his combine test, but I’d guess we’d have heard if he failed it. In theory, sure, smoke em if you got em... but maybe when it’s affected your ability to make a shitload more money right off the bat, you might wanna think about not doing that anymore. He was on mayocks best available list for like 3-4 rounds and kept getting passed up. 

Unless he has some other off field issues we are unaware of, that is. 

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Laremy Tunsil had that picture pop up right before the draft, and he still went round 1. He had to have something else happen for him to go undrafted.

3 minutes ago, coolsax said:

SF would've been bad news bc of the legal pot. MN is a much better place for him

would’ve been better.  those athletes aren’t negatively affected physically by smoking weed.  he’s going to smoke anyway and he can still be an elite athlete doing it, just like a substantial portion of the NFL/NBA.  in SF he wouldn’t have to worry about being arrested for it. 

literally all he has to do is pass his one test a year until the shit gets scrapped in the next CBA. 

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Laremy Tunsil had that picture pop up right before the draft, and he still went round 1. He had to have something else happen for him to go undrafted.

we all love holton, but he wasn’t close to being the prospect tunsil was.  this is as simple as it seems.  

If he uas it together, he will both make the roster and getting a ton of PT in Minn. Exactly the kind of corner they love and they are a bit short on corners right now.

 

Will be cheering him on.

 

Hook Em.

5 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Laremy Tunsil had that picture pop up right before the draft, and he still went round 1. He had to have something else happen for him to go undrafted.

His tape didn't outweigh his asshattery.

I never thought weed was the sole issue with Hill.  More to story than we need to know.  Good luck,  Holton.  Hook 'em.

This has to be more than weed right?  He was suspended a whole year under Strong.  There are posters here hinted at knowing what it was but wouldn't post why he was suspended.  I cannot imagine gms passing on a very good 6'3 200lb CB for liking weed.   

2 minutes ago, victory88 said:

This has to be more than weed right?  He was suspended a whole year under Strong.  There are posters here hinted at knowing what it was but wouldn't post why he was suspended.  I cannot imagine gms passing on a very good 6'3 200lb CB for liking weed.   

it’s that simple.  they don’t want to spend a draft pick on someone who might be suspended for multiple games.  it’s precisely the reason randy gregory slid to the 2nd round (and probably further if jerry were dead).  he had zero issues with anything outside of being a pothead.  holton is not nearly as elite as tunsil or gregory were from a prospect standpoint, so GMs stayed away.  

He wasn’t suspended all year. He sat out most of it and looked like shit when he played. 

19 minutes ago, Artificial Iverson said:

legalization of weed will boost so many football careers.

doesn’t really matter all that much.  testing for it needs to be eliminated at next CBA.  

12 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

He wasn’t suspended all year. He sat out most of it and looked like shit when he played. 

That’s just not true 

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20 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

He wasn’t suspended all year. He sat out most of it and looked like shit when he played. 

You didn't watch the same 2017 Holton Hill that the rest of us did.

Edit: didn't realize you were referring to 2016. Carry on.

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4 minutes ago, Machinator said:

You didn't watch the same 2017 Holton Hill that the rest of us did.

He was talking about '16 Holton, in the Clay Jennings season

18 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

He wasn’t suspended all year. He sat out most of it and looked like shit when he played. 

This is a horrible take.  He shutdown his side of the field.

He was suspended by Strong. The next year with a new coach he is kicked off the team supposedly for failing at least 4 in house drug tests. 

Getting shut down both your sophomore and junior seasons for disciplinary reasons by two different coaching staffs is a receipe for going undrafted. Tunsil had one picture but was never suspended. Big difference.  

lol Holton was far from shit. If he didn't have off the field issues, he would have been drafted higher than Connor.

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33 minutes ago, futureman said:

doesn’t really matter all that much.  testing for it needs to be eliminated at next CBA.  

well if it's federally legal, it's not going to be tested and guys won't be kicked off college teams ruining their reputations. 

5 minutes ago, Artificial Iverson said:

well if it's federally legal, it's not going to be tested and guys won't be kicked off college teams ruining their reputations. 

the NFL can still ban it regardless of federal legality.  a lot of the banned substances are federally legal. 

8 minutes ago, Artificial Iverson said:

well if it's federally legal, it's not going to be tested and guys won't be kicked off college teams ruining their reputations. 

Yeah it's the government's laws that made him ruin his draft stock. How about growing the fuck up and staying off weed long enough to make millions of dollars more than you will be making?

It's a joke to say "so much better in City A  than B". Drugs are everywhere, especially if you're rich. Fuck being penalized for taking drugs and more power to a future where teams  can look at a player and say "you lose your $, because your drug use makes you insufficient"

Just now, RandomIdoit said:

Yeah it's the government's laws that made him ruin his draft stock. How about growing the fuck up and staying off weed long enough to make millions of dollars more than you will be making?

yes it's govt laws for something that shouldn't be illegal to begin with. 

1 minute ago, RandomIdoit said:

Yeah it's the government's laws that made him ruin his draft stock. How about growing the fuck up and staying off weed long enough to make millions of dollars more than you will be making?

What the fuck do you care?

Just now, Artificial Iverson said:

yes it's govt laws for something that shouldn't be illegal to begin 

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

What the fuck do you care?

I responding to the people who are putting the blame on the rules instead of the person not following the rules. 

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27 minutes ago, In10se said:

He was suspended by Strong. The next year with a new coach he is kicked off the team supposedly for failing at least 4 in house drug tests. 

Getting shut down both your sophomore and junior seasons for disciplinary reasons by two different coaching staffs is a receipe for going undrafted. Tunsil had one picture but was never suspended. Big difference.  

It takes a special kind of a) stupid or b)blatant disregard for the rules or c)both to miss that many drug tests at Texas. After you miss the first 2(?) in house tests, they tell you the exact day that they will be testing you. All you have to do is piss clean. He couldn't even manage that. 

I'm pro marijuana legalization, but lets have an adult perspective on this. If you have an opportunity to make millions of dollars and all you have to do is avoid one substance for ~10 years (if you're lucky), you do what is asked of you. "Hey, Holton, you have an opportunity to play at a D1 school with an insane pro pedigree at your position. All you have to do is not fail five drug tests over 4 years and you're guaranteed to make a couple of million dollars." And an even more honest take is that over half of the team smokes pot. A large number of them pop once or twice, especially in the spring or after summer. We don't hear about it because it is dealt with internally. Why is Holton getting singled out? Because he is the only one making it a problem.

From what I heard about Strong's take on a college lifestyle, it was "if you can do it without me hearing about it, great. But the moment that shit lands on my desk, I'm going to make you pay hard." Holton ran up a tab with Strong, which put a bullseye on his back with Herman. If Holton pissed hot after Herman told him not to, with Herman trying to establish his presence in the locker room, I don't see how Herman could possibly look the other way. Everybody was playing by the same rules and only Holton was dumb enough to be the habitual line crosser. And that's the key issue, not the weed itself. Yes, the weed rules in and of themselves are stupid and arbitrary, but they are still the rules. Not following them hurt himself and the team. 

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Nice little Texas connection: Jerry Gray will be Holton's position coach on the Vikings.

10 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Nice little Texas connection: Jerry Gray will be Holton's position coach on the Vikings.

I remember when jerry gray was almost our DC. 

12 minutes ago, futureman said:

I remember when jerry gray was almost our DC. 

Which time?

29 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

He failed a combine test rumored.  He’s a total idiot...

well if that’s actually true he didn’t deserve to be drafted.  

21 minutes ago, futureman said:

I remember when jerry gray was almost our DC. 

Ha I forgot about that. He "Josh McDaniel'd" us. 

2 hours ago, Machinator said:

You didn't watch the same 2017 Holton Hill that the rest of us did.

Edit: didn't realize you were referring to 2016. Carry on.

Yeah, I was referring to his soph season, since that was the one he sat out the most of I think. Anyone that doesn’t think he was bad that year is blinded by the season he put together last year. 

1 hour ago, RandomIdoit said:

I responding to the people who are putting the blame on the rules instead of the person not following the rules. 

It can be possible for both to be stupid. But only one suffers for it.

HH had the skill, ability and frame to be one of the best ever at DBU and a first round pick. He threw it all away.

4 minutes ago, futureman said:

yes, hyperbole can be fun.  don’t go crazy. 

He was damn good. Locked down his side of the field on the reg.

Just now, texifornia said:

He was damn good. Locked down his side of the field on the reg.

he absolutely was.  but he wasn’t anywhere near the top of the talent we’ve had come through austin.  get serious. 

Well he'll get a shot in Minnesota.

I don't know crap about these things but people say that UDFA contracts can be better than late round picks.

Just now, Disco Missile said:

Well he'll get a shot in Minnesota.

I don't know crap about these things but people say that UDFA contracts can be better than late round picks.

they’re better if you perform.  pretty sure rookie deals for draft picks are four years while UFA are only two(?).  so if you kick ass you can get paid quicker than enduring four years of indentured servitude.  it’s why jerry gave la’el collins all that money so fast. 

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