January 6, 20232 yr I saw a headline earlier this morning about Chapo's son arrested. I am assuming he was commanding via proxy his old man?
January 6, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, HamsterHookah said: I saw a headline earlier this morning about Chapo's son arrested. I am assuming he was commanding via proxy his old man? Something like that. They were showing video clips from yesterday on the national news. Some crazy stuff (people in commercial airplanes hunkering down due to gunfire in the area, Gunships firing tracers into city streets, gas stations on fire, etc.). EDIT: NVM looks like someone posted clips on the prior page. Edited January 6, 20232 yr by DDD Dad
January 6, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, DDD Dad said: Something like that. They were showing video clips from yesterday on the national news. Some crazy stuff (people in commercial airplanes hunkering down due to gunfire in the area, Gunships firing tracers into city streets, gas stations on fire, etc.). EDIT: NVM looks like someone posted clips on the prior page. 29 people dead: 10 cartel soliders; 19 LEO it looks like. Also learned El Chapo's son's nickname is "The Mouse". You'd think you'd get something more sinister for being the son of the OG and commanding 11 meth labs responsible for 5,000 lbs of meth a month into the US.
January 6, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, Parliament said: Maybe it's meant to be ironic? Like a big fat guy named "Tiny?" I understood that reference.gif
January 6, 20232 yr If you do Instagram, Ed’s Manifesto is no longer but he is running under the banner of manifestoradiopodcast now. He has great content of the current goings on in Culiacan.
January 7, 20232 yr They’ve got Barrett’s sending .50’s at airliners. Trying to create panic and upheaval. Just a matter of time before they cause some deaths that truly resonate with folks on this side of the border. The cartels may pose the largest threat to US security… people worried about Russia or China may need to refocus. They can and will do terrifying shit and a lot of it.
January 7, 20232 yr Popular Post Dude. When they roll tanks across the Rio, start ethnic cleansing, or engage in economic/electronic warfare on an international scale get back to me.
January 7, 20232 yr So, the OP’s rabbit hole lead me to the ABC news link, and the quotes from someone named Ayala made me think of Kiki DeAyala. How in the everliving fuck did he get 22 sacks in a single season???
January 7, 20232 yr I saw a headline earlier this morning about Chapo's son arrested. I am assuming he was commanding via proxy his old man?https://insightcrime.org/news/gamechangers-2022-chapitos-hyper-capitalist-narcos/
January 7, 20232 yr 41 minutes ago, MirrOlure said: So, the OP’s rabbit hole lead me to the ABC news link, and the quotes from someone named Ayala made me think of Kiki DeAyala. How in the everliving fuck did he get 22 sacks in a single season??? Because he was good. Have you ever met him? Built like an anvil. No neck. Face attached to his trapezius muscles. Good guy.
January 7, 20232 yr Because he was good. Have you ever met him? Built like an anvil. No neck. Face attached to his trapezius muscles. Good guy. Did actually meet him. I was college buddies with his brother Mano. Good people indeed
January 7, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, deadshank said: Because he was good. Have you ever met him? Built like an anvil. No neck. Face attached to his trapezius muscles. Good guy. He’s still built like that, met him a few years ago at a HOA meeting in Rockport after Harvey. Was a really nice guy. Edited January 7, 20232 yr by Hook1997
January 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, MirrOlure said: Did actually meet him. I was college buddies with his brother Mano. Good people indeed Then we must know each other. Good lord.
January 7, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, MirrOlure said: So, the OP’s rabbit hole lead me to the ABC news link, and the quotes from someone named Ayala made me think of Kiki DeAyala. How in the everliving fuck did he get 22 sacks in a single season??? Kiki's parents were from Cuba. In the NFL, he played linebacker. In college he played DE. He would have been very good at Edge - He isn't very tall but is pretty thick and was a very good athlete. I would guess that he ran about 6'2" 245lbs.
January 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, MirrOlure said: Did actually meet him. I was college buddies with his brother Mano. Good people indeed Did Mano win his election? He was running for office in Houston.
January 7, 20232 yr Did Mano win his election? He was running for office in Houston.Yes he did. State Representative.
January 7, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, HenryJames said: Kiki DeAyala talk not going away. Actually Mano.
January 7, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said: Actually Mano. We could switch to Mike, Carlos, and Ralph (who I don't know but is an OBGYN in Houston).
January 8, 20232 yr On 1/6/2023 at 2:04 PM, HamsterHookah said: 29 people dead: 10 cartel soliders; 19 LEO it looks like. Also learned El Chapo's son's nickname is "The Mouse". You'd think you'd get something more sinister for being the son of the OG and commanding 11 meth labs responsible for 5,000 lbs of meth a month into the US. I am pretty sure it is actually meaning "the rat" not a mouse even though translation says a raton is a mouse and a rato is a rat rats are seen as cunning and survivors and quick and shifty and able to move anywhere
January 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, williemackgarza said: http://www.borderlandbeat.com/?m=1 Seems unbiased lol
January 8, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, ButtFumble said: I am pretty sure it is actually meaning "the rat" not a mouse even though translation says a raton is a mouse and a rato is a rat rats are seen as cunning and survivors and quick and shifty and able to move anywhere It does mean mouse. I don’t know why they call him that but it’s definitely not rat. No criminal ever wants to be called a rat (snitch).
January 8, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, Helobious said: It does mean mouse. I don’t know why they call him that but it’s definitely not rat. No criminal ever wants to be called a rat (snitch). in this article they call it rat https://insightcrime.org/news/gamechangers-2022-chapitos-hyper-capitalist-narcos/ Another target for them has been Mexico City, long spared the worst of the country's cartel excesses. In July, 14 men reported to be envoys from the Chapitos were arrested in the capital. They wore badges with a cartoon rat, long interpreted as a symbol of Ovidio Guzmán, who is known as "El Ratón." I don't think down there a "rat" means the same thing and as stated prior by another person in this forum all these cartel nicknames are weird as fuck.....the chapo kids uncle is called "el guano" so he is bird or bat shit... I know the vice article said "the mouse", but I think the rat badges say more it could be the rat......either way not exactly the best nickname
January 8, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, deadshank said: Then we must know each other. Good lord. Eskimo brothers?
January 8, 20232 yr 35 minutes ago, ButtFumble said: in this article they call it rat https://insightcrime.org/news/gamechangers-2022-chapitos-hyper-capitalist-narcos/ Another target for them has been Mexico City, long spared the worst of the country's cartel excesses. In July, 14 men reported to be envoys from the Chapitos were arrested in the capital. They wore badges with a cartoon rat, long interpreted as a symbol of Ovidio Guzmán, who is known as "El Ratón." I don't think down there a "rat" means the same thing and as stated prior by another person in this forum all these cartel nicknames are weird as fuck.....the chapo kids uncle is called "el guano" so he is bird or bat shit... I know the vice article said "the mouse", but I think the rat badges say more it could be the rat......either way not exactly the best nickname It does mean the same thing, you don’t want to be called a rat down there anymore than here. In Mexico a lot of people get nicknames for random reasons, my family from there always called me Guero for how white I looked. I guarantee he’s been called raton since he was a kid. His dad probably thought he looked like a mouse or something. Chapo was always called that because of how small he was, he didn’t get that name in the criminal world. Same for La Barbie when he was growing up.
January 8, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Helobious said: It does mean the same thing, you don’t want to be called a rat down there anymore than here. In Mexico a lot of people get nicknames for random reasons, my family from there always called me Guero for how white I looked. I guarantee he’s been called raton since he was a kid. His dad probably thought he looked like a mouse or something. Chapo was always called that because of how small he was, he didn’t get that name in the criminal world. Same for La Barbie when he was growing up. I looked up the badges it probably is mouse the shit these cartels will do and spend cash on is ridiculous
January 8, 20232 yr My WhatsApp group chats were blowing up with videos earlier this week of all this shit show. The other brothers are actually more in charge than Ovidio. IMG_4655.MOV IMG_4654.MOV
January 8, 20232 yr On 1/7/2023 at 8:26 AM, Parliament said: Peter Zeihan compares Mexico to Afganistan. Interesting perspective: Zeihan always reminds me of a Montessori kid wanting to talk about his science project.
January 8, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, Helobious said: It does mean the same thing, you don’t want to be called a rat down there anymore than here. In Mexico a lot of people get nicknames for random reasons, my family from there always called me Guero for how white I looked. I guarantee he’s been called raton since he was a kid. His dad probably thought he looked like a mouse or something. Chapo was always called that because of how small he was, he didn’t get that name in the criminal world. Same for La Barbie when he was growing up. The word I always heard was soplón. Still current?
January 8, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said: The word I always heard was soplón. Still current? I thought that was more for like an undercover cop or spy? But I’d also bet you’ve spent more time in Mexico than me.
January 8, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Helobious said: I thought that was more for like an undercover cop or spy? But I’d also bet you’ve spent more time in Mexico than me. Only about a year if you string it all together. But it could mean both in different places. I was down in Colima mostly, and the same slang word might mean different things up in Texas.
January 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said: Zeihan always reminds me of a Montessori kid wanting to talk about his science project. He's big on hyperbole, and his political views creep into his geopolitical beliefs. But on balance, he's pretty good imho.
January 10, 20232 yr They’ve got Barrett’s sending .50’s at airliners. Trying to create panic and upheaval. Just a matter of time before they cause some deaths that truly resonate with folks on this side of the border. The cartels may pose the largest threat to US security… people worried about Russia or China may need to refocus. They can and will do terrifying shit and a lot of it. Always bottled my mind that more people don’t see this.
January 11, 20232 yr On 1/6/2023 at 2:04 PM, HamsterHookah said: Also learned El Chapo's son's nickname is "The Mouse". You'd think you'd get something more sinister for being the son of the OG and commanding 11 meth labs responsible for 5,000 lbs of meth a month into the US.
January 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, UT_OB1 said: Who was shooting from the helicopter? And who were they shooting at? Mexican Army at convoys or hard points. It is an insurgency, but with a lot of cash and government involvement.
January 11, 20232 yr Between this and Biden's visit to El Paso, it must have shifted a lot of traffic to the east. We crossed back into Texas at Laredo Saturday night/Sunday morning and from the time we got in line to the time we cleared customs it was 8.5 hours.
January 11, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said: Between this and Biden's visit to El Paso, it must have shifted a lot of traffic to the east. We crossed back into Texas at Laredo Saturday night/Sunday morning and from the time we got in line to the time we cleared customs it was 8.5 hours. 6.5 hours for us friday night / saturday morning. it was insane
January 11, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, tbone_ said: Always bottled my mind that more people don’t see this. I grew up on the border and still go back a lot. People have been pearl-clutching about full scale violence & warfare spilling over here since all this really kicked off… back in 2006. You would expect US border towns to have the most violent crime in america, but it’s quite the opposite. The cartels operate here, they do crimes here, some violence does happen, but you just flat out won’t see it at the level you see over the river. It’s not their MO, they know they can’t control things here like they can there. Above all they know keeping American law enforcement heat off of them is good for business.
January 11, 20232 yr I grew up on the border and still go back a lot. People have been pearl-clutching about full scale violence & warfare spilling over here since all this really kicked off… back in 2006. You would expect US border towns to have the most violent crime in america, but it’s quite the opposite. The cartels operate here, they do crimes here, some violence does happen, but you just flat out won’t see it at the level you see over the river. It’s not their MO, they know they can’t control things here like they can there. Above all they know keeping American law enforcement heat off of them is good for business.Agree with all that. Until they change their MO. The one thing we know about these guys is they expand. As the younger guys come up they will look to be ever more aggressive.So far the hand wringing has been misplaced because as you note the violence hasn’t spilled over. Yet.
January 11, 20232 yr It's been supposed to spill over since the War on Drugs went full throttle in the 1980's. 40 years later, there is no en masse cartel violence in the United States border states/cities. Every year is supposed to the year, it's the Aggie Football of politics. My mother's family stretches from Brownsville to Rio Grande City. They don't shop in Mexico anymore and they barely use their deadbolts at home. As more and more states legalize more and more drugs, the violence in Mexico will get worse. And the violence in the United States will decline. Our own internal drug trade does just fine visiting violence upon itself without any help from our neighbors to the South. I'm more curious what Americans who think the U.S. border towns have been warzones all this time, believe happens to drugs once they cross our border in bulk. The mule isn't going to continue on across our interstate highway system. Too big a risk. You'd be very surprised how bulk narcotics make their way to distribution hubs around the country. Hint, it isn't the cartels.
January 11, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, Helobious said: I grew up on the border and still go back a lot. People have been pearl-clutching about full scale violence & warfare spilling over here since all this really kicked off… back in 2006. You would expect US border towns to have the most violent crime in america, but it’s quite the opposite. The cartels operate here, they do crimes here, some violence does happen, but you just flat out won’t see it at the level you see over the river. It’s not their MO, they know they can’t control things here like they can there. Above all they know keeping American law enforcement heat off of them is good for business. I would say this is correct. But if they want to have someone taken out or path cleared for their organizations, they will do it to make it look like it doesn't involve them. Going into a McAllen neighborhood like they do in Reynosa won't fly here for obvious reasons. The way they do it is by bribery, buying stash houses in affluent areas, and other stealth like tactics to accomplish their goals. And really I think the bulk of the cartel stuff on the other side of the river that makes the news is happening in Reynosa, Juarez, and Nuevo Laredo. I feel "safe" going over to Nuevo Progresso or Las Flores as we natives still call it as I did decades ago. Always kept my money in my front pocket then and do it now. You don't hear much of stuff going on in Matamoros, Acuna, or Piedres Negras other than the on going immigration non sense. The cartels are involved deeply in all of that and certainly have their base of operations in those towns, but the shooting wars are just not as apparent as in the other above noted border towns.
January 11, 20232 yr Interesting series on the effect legalization is having on the Cartels:“Marijuana has long been one of the most profitable illicit crops in various parts of rural Mexico, and one of the most important revenue generators for Mexican drug trafficking organizations. It is intimately linked to the origins of these criminal groups, who became the leading suppliers of a lucrative marijuana market in the United States. The trade also became a focal point of an often-tense bilateral relationship between the United States and Mexico.That era appears to be over. Today, most of the marijuana consumed in the United States is produced domestically, largely due to ongoing legalization and decriminalization efforts in several states. These shifts have changed the game in the international drug market, particularly in the Western Hemisphere. They struck at the core of some of the region’s most notorious organized crime groups and gouged Mexican marijuana prices. Beyond those economic issues, the changes may have permanently altered the once-symbiotic relationship between the criminal groups and their long-time social base.”https://insightcrime.org/investigations/executive-summary-major-findings/
January 11, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, TexPx said: Interesting series on the effect legalization is having on the Cartels: “Marijuana has long been one of the most profitable illicit crops in various parts of rural Mexico, and one of the most important revenue generators for Mexican drug trafficking organizations. It is intimately linked to the origins of these criminal groups, who became the leading suppliers of a lucrative marijuana market in the United States. The trade also became a focal point of an often-tense bilateral relationship between the United States and Mexico. That era appears to be over. Today, most of the marijuana consumed in the United States is produced domestically, largely due to ongoing legalization and decriminalization efforts in several states. These shifts have changed the game in the international drug market, particularly in the Western Hemisphere. They struck at the core of some of the region’s most notorious organized crime groups and gouged Mexican marijuana prices. Beyond those economic issues, the changes may have permanently altered the once-symbiotic relationship between the criminal groups and their long-time social base.” https://insightcrime.org/investigations/executive-summary-major-findings/ That's why they've moved on to other man-made stuff and human trafficking.
January 11, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Nueces River Rat said: That's why they've moved on to other man-made stuff and human trafficking. So, logically following, we should legalize fet and meth and sex work and then the cartels dry up and sell piñatas.
January 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, El Tri said: 6.5 hours for us friday night / saturday morning. it was insane There were more US plates than Mexican plates on the road all the way from San Luis Potosí or Matehuala to Nuevo Laredo. Probably between 30 and 40 different states represented. My inlaws crossed Sunday night and only waited 2.5 hours. I guess all the people from more distant states had already crossed. The drive down before Christmas was pretty interesting too. Everybody was loaded up with a roof rack and a hitch rack stacked high with stuff that's cheaper here, and almost every vehicle had at least one new TV strapped down in their load somewhere.
January 11, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said: So, logically following, we should legalize fet and meth and sex work and then the cartels dry up and sell piñatas. Why have prescriptions, then? Just legalize everything. If fentanyl is legal to sell, I see no reason for control of Tylenol 3, oxycodone, morphine, and then by extension everything else. Why would it be fine to buy morphine and heroin on the streets and not amoxicillin?
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