March 22, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, shnsajax said: Actually looked like something the last 30 minutes. Now we get to root for a Mexico win/draw which is never fun. i ain't rootin'. but it's happening. Mexico up 1-0 inside 10 minutes.
March 22, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, pied said: mexico was up on them 1-0 at halftime Didn’t watch the mexico - DR game, but they slog it out. Not a good team over 90, but they make it tough for 60. Great result. Never root for mexico but if they win I wouldn’t hate it.
March 22, 20214 yr Author tri started brightly, tico have been equals the last 30 minutes. halftime 1-0 tri on 5' not decided by any means.
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March 22, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said: game started 30 minutes earlier than scheduled typical concalaugh 2 hours ago, UDontKnow said: The Dominicans wore out. Not complaining though. In case Mexico decides to shit the bed against Costa Rica, a 5 goal differential and no goals conceded going into the final game of pool play is quite helpful. 1 hour ago, shnsajax said: Actually looked like something the last 30 minutes. Now we get to root for a Mexico win/draw which is never fun. The garbage time goal by Mihailovic, combined with Mexico’s match (win?) means: 1) We advance to the semis no matter what. 2) We win the group with a tie or better if Mexico wins their match by 1 goal. If Mexico wins their match by 2 or more, then we have to beat them to win the group. Edited March 22, 20214 yr by Napoleon
March 22, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Napoleon said: The garbage time goal by Mihailovic, combined with Mexico’s result means: 1) We advance to the semis no matter what. 2) We win the group with a tie. I'm sure everyone on this thread is fully aware, but the question becomes should Kreis try to win against Mexico or rest key players in favor of a must win semifinal to secure the Olympic berth? My brain believes the latter and my heart says 'why not both?'
March 22, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, UDontKnow said: I'm sure everyone on this thread is fully aware, but the question becomes should Kreis try to win against Mexico or rest key players in favor of a must win semifinal to secure the Olympic berth? My brain believes the latter and my heart says 'why not both?' Rest key players. A. Getting to the Olympics is the goal, blowing that to beat Mexico would be galactically stupid B. If you make the Olympics, you should get another shot at Mexico in the final I didn't watch group B games, what are the odds Canada and Honduras wrap things up tomorrow?
March 22, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said: I didn't watch group B games, what are the odds Canada and Honduras wrap things up tomorrow? https://www.concacaf.com/en/olympics-qualifying-men/schedule-results#tab_team=standings Pretty good. Honduras and Canada both won their opening matches. Tomorrow, Canada faces Haiti and then Honduras faces El Salvador. Honduras and Canada should be 2-0 after tomorrow's matches are over. Eerily similar trajectory to how things are shaping up with the US and Mexico.
March 22, 20214 yr Here’s an interesting scenario. Say Honduras and Canada finish off group B tomorrow. And then we upset Mexico to win group A, do Canada and Honduras fight to lose their game and not play Mexico as their group winner?
March 22, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Captain Ron said: Here’s an interesting scenario. Say Honduras and Canada finish off group B tomorrow. And then we upset Mexico to win group A, do Canada and Honduras fight to lose their game and not play Mexico as their group winner? Yes
March 23, 20214 yr Canada and Haiti just drew 0-0. That means there is at least 1 spot still up for grabs in group B. Honduras will advance with a win against El Salvador.
March 23, 20214 yr Author i caught some of canada haiti, canada should have done more honduras opening brighter than salvador but not much in it this group is looking like it goes to the wire as of this moment
March 23, 20214 yr Canada 🇨🇦 and Honduras 🇭🇳 advance if they kick the ball around for 90 minutes. Honduras would win the group due to goal differential. (+3 vs +2) If Canada doesn’t want to play the #1 in Group A, they will have to try to win. Canada can most likely lose and still advance, but not as easily as Honduras can.
March 23, 20214 yr Going to be pretty interesting how Canada and Honduras play. Not only because of the scenario @Napoleon mentioned, but also because both teams will want to rest their best players. Neither team wants Mexico, assuming that's the 1 seed.
March 23, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said: Going to be pretty interesting how Canada and Honduras play. Not only because of the scenario @Napoleon mentioned, but also because both teams will want to rest their best players. Neither team wants Mexico, assuming that's the 1 seed. They might get to. They aren’t playing the last group stages games concurrently, so they will know if they need a result or not, because El Salvador-Haiti kicks off first and a draw there advances both Honduras and Canada.
March 23, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, Captain Ron said: They might get to. They aren’t playing the last group stages games concurrently, so they will know if they need a result or not, because El Salvador-Haiti kicks off first and a draw there advances both Honduras and Canada. Correct. Though, I was actually speaking to resting for Sunday's game. Especially given one less day of rest.
March 23, 20214 yr Ferrerira and Glad probably shouldn't take the pitch today because they're both sitting on yellows.
March 23, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, UDontKnow said: Ferrerira and Glad probably shouldn't take the pitch today because they're both sitting on yellows. Tomorrow night, right?
March 23, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, pied said: Tomorrow night, right? Yeah you're right, it's tomorrow night 8:30 CST.
March 24, 20214 yr Weather, location, and our players being in the off-season, having that extra day of rest might really be helpful on Sunday - especially if Honduras and Canada end up playing a bunch of starters. Again, neither will want Mexico.
March 24, 20214 yr Too bad Covid wasn't delayed last year by a month. We could have picked from the following roster. Note that Ledezma, Llanez and Pomykal were healthy at the time. Ferreira Llanez Aaronson Ledezma Pomykal Dotson (but likely Yueill) Gloster McKenzie Palmer-Brown Cannon Ochoa US U-23 roster for 2020 Olympic Qualifiers Pos. Player Club GK Freese, Matt Philadelphia Union GK Marcinkowski, JT San Jose Earthquakes GK Ochoa, David Real Salt Lake D Cannon, Reggie FC Dallas D Glad, Justen Real Salt Lake D Gloster, Chris PSV Eindhoven D Herrera, Aaron Real Salt Lake D McKenzie, Mark Philadelphia Union D Palmer-Brown, Erik Austria Wien M Aaronson, Brenden Philadelphia Union M Dotson, Hassani Minnesota United FC M Ledezma, Richard PSV Eindhoven M Mihailovic, Djordje Chicago Fire FC M Pomykal, Paxton FC Dallas M Yueill, Jackson San Jose Earthquakes F Ebobisse, Jeremy Portland Timbers F Ferreira, Jesus FC Dallas F Lewis, Jonathan Colorado Rapids F Llanez, Ulysses VfL Wolfsburg F Saucedo, Sebastian Pumas UNAM
March 24, 20214 yr 25 minutes ago, dogbreath said: Too bad Covid wasn't delayed last year by a month. We could have picked from the following roster. Note that Ledezma, Llanez and Pomykal were healthy at the time. Ferreira Llanez Aaronson Ledezma Pomykal Dotson (but likely Yueill) Gloster McKenzie Palmer-Brown Cannon Ochoa US U-23 roster for 2020 Olympic Qualifiers Pos. Player Club GK Freese, Matt Philadelphia Union GK Marcinkowski, JT San Jose Earthquakes GK Ochoa, David Real Salt Lake D Cannon, Reggie FC Dallas D Glad, Justen Real Salt Lake D Gloster, Chris PSV Eindhoven D Herrera, Aaron Real Salt Lake D McKenzie, Mark Philadelphia Union D Palmer-Brown, Erik Austria Wien M Aaronson, Brenden Philadelphia Union M Dotson, Hassani Minnesota United FC M Ledezma, Richard PSV Eindhoven M Mihailovic, Djordje Chicago Fire FC M Pomykal, Paxton FC Dallas M Yueill, Jackson San Jose Earthquakes F Ebobisse, Jeremy Portland Timbers F Ferreira, Jesus FC Dallas F Lewis, Jonathan Colorado Rapids F Llanez, Ulysses VfL Wolfsburg F Saucedo, Sebastian Pumas UNAM The glaring thing about this year's squad is that there is almost no speed. LB- Sam Vines is okay, not special, but no cement boots either. Would have rather seen George Bello either year, but Atlanta United has said "No". (That cannot help their recruiting going forward.) RB- Julian Araujo is no Reggie Cannon. CM- Johnny Cardoso seems sufficient, but he's too big to be "quick" or "sudden". He's got the top speed, but that's not needed in Central Midfield. CM- Hassani Dotson... I think that he's above average, but does not stand out. RW- Benji Michel seems quick/fast-ish, but his ball control skills/dribbling speed is really not impressive. RW- Jonathan Lewis is about the same as Benji. Maybe a little faster WITH the ball and a little slower WITHOUT. Basically, no one stands out as being "FAST". Right Wing seems better than average and that's about it. I think that the list above would provide more speed from: Reggie Cannon Ulysses Llanez (quick & sudden, more than "fast")Erik Palmer-Brown (can run circles around Glad)Jeremy Ebobisse (more speed at the 9, but not sure whether he's quick or just has a higher top end)Paxton Pomykal (just seems sudden and doesn't get beat for pace, but frequently beats others in the final third) I think that what stands out about our current squad in Guadalajara is that these players don't have the required skill to be as slow as they are and still be a major problem. The current squad wouldn't make the Top 10 in Europe, but just may be in the Top 2 in CONCACAF. The age group is dripping with speed & skill, but that drip was either not chosen by GGGB or not permitted to join if it is in the MLS, and was not considered if in Europe. (Though I think that Soto has B speed and B skill and he plays in Europe.) Hopefully no more than 10 from this roster make the Olympic squad and almost none of them are in the starting XI. Edited March 24, 20214 yr by Napoleon
March 24, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, shnsajax said: Great for the team, but I can't help but think it's smart marketing on CP's part. I mean he lost 2018 as a chance to showcase himself at the World Cup for US fans. This would be a chance to do it before the 2022 WC. Become a household US name. Plus the chance at the medal.
March 25, 20214 yr We are soooo lucky that our keeper, Ochoa, was standing on his head in the match against Costa Rica. We were an average-to-decent performance" by our keeper from not even making it to the semifinal match. Again, it should have been Costa Rica 4-1 US(a). In the 72', Costa Rica is already getting their anger out.
March 25, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, UDontKnow said: I don't like you anymore, Soto. Why did I ever push for your inclusion? I did not expect that kind from Soto. He’s one of my favorite players on this team. I also don’t understand why he was so far back. Ochoa conceded a goal, but he’s still in my good graces because of the Costa Rica match. And I know that that means a lot to him. 😎
March 25, 20214 yr Our U-24 Euro-based players need to trade Gold Cup, Nation’s League, and some WC Qualifying commitments for a release from their squads to play in the Olympics. That crew playing together in a tournament this summer would be really fun for us and would pay dividends down the road in Qatar and in 2026.
March 25, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said: damn. getting very chippy. love a chippy gk. well earned yellow, imo
March 25, 20214 yr Tessman’s smooth turn on the build up was nice to see. It was arguably the silkiest move all night even though it wasn’t much. It had the look of someone who is a level ahead in composure.
March 25, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Napoleon said: Tessman’s smooth turn on the build up was nice to see. It was arguably the silkiest move all night even though it wasn’t much. It had the look of someone who is a level ahead in composure. Tessman most definitely is right-footed, because that “shot” sucked ass! PS- Do we have a shot ON GOAL tonight? Edited March 25, 20214 yr by Napoleon
March 25, 20214 yr Deserved win for El Tri. U.S. looked outmatched from start to finish. Had a very difficult time maintaining possession and generating quality chances.
March 25, 20214 yr Author tessssssman derp the result if fine kreis contested and no injuries get the ticket on sunday tri will be there in the final tri never goes away
March 25, 20214 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Napoleon said: PS- Do we have a shot ON GOAL tonight? no. our C-/D+ side lost 1-0 to tri's B side at this level parcells
March 25, 20214 yr Surprised it was only a 1-0 result. But then again, Mexico only scored on the one massive American fuck up. Meh, the match result doesn't matter. But Kreis was foolish for inserting Ferreira into the game. Edited March 25, 20214 yr by UDontKnow
March 25, 20214 yr watched the first ~60 minutes before the weather had other ideas. Thought we looked fine. Don't see in any way that someone would say we were dominated. Looked to me like when two good teams are playing in a pre-season friendly with all the give-aways. Not focused on either side. Wouldn't say sloppy by both teams but a game where they knew the result wasn't paramount.
March 25, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, pied said: watched the first ~60 minutes before the weather had other ideas. Thought we looked fine. Don't see in any way that someone would say we were dominated. Looked to me like when two good teams are playing in a pre-season friendly with all the give-aways. Not focused on either side. Wouldn't say sloppy by both teams but a game where they knew the result wasn't paramount. We were NOT “dominated”, but we were by far the inferior team. Second half subs, a sense of urgency, and a lack of a need to fight for a goal on the Mexicans’ part had the US looking much improved the last 15-20 minutes. If we qualify, it will be after playing Russian roulette while squeaking by Costa Rica. Edited March 25, 20214 yr by Napoleon
March 25, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Napoleon said: We were NOT “dominated”, but we were by far the inferior team. Second half subs, a sense of urgency, and a lack of a need to fight for the goal on the Mexicans’ part had the US looking much improved the last 15-20 minutes. If we qualify, it will be after playing Russian roulette while squeaking by Costa Rica. Right before the goal and halftime Holden(I think) were talking about how it was almost the perfect half for the US. I wouldn't have disagreed with that statement.
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