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UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate [Sean Miller Hired]

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3 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Where the hell did this narrative come from?  Miller literally has zero international talent on his current Xavier roster.

 

I think Gerry was referring to Miller’s time at Arizona. I guess he had a bunch of international players there?  IDK. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The goal of sports is to win championships, especially at a high level like D1 basketball and NBA. Not making final 4s means you have no shot at winning championships. While it would be good for program to make elite 8s it means nothing if you can't take the next step. Might as well get the coach that you think can take you all the way.

But that's a terrible way to evaluate fit. 

You can find coaches that are on the cusp of greatness that just need better resources/talent. Prime example is our track/field coach (Floreal). He had a really good program at Kentucky but just needed better resources at Texas to finally win a couple national championships. 

The same is probably going to be true in softball with Mike White. 

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1 minute ago, Duane Moore said:

I think Gerry was referring to Miller’s time at Arizona. I guess he had a bunch of international players there?  IDK. 

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During his 12 seasons at Arizona, Miller signed a total of 13 international players. This group included six that would go on play in the NBA - highlighted by the first pick in the 2018 NBA Draft, Deandre Ayton (Bahamas), 2023 NBA All-Star and the 2023 NBA Most Improved Player Award winner Lauri Markkanen (Finland) and Bennedict Mathurin (Canada). Nine of Miller's international signees would be named All-Conference including 2022 Pac-12 Conference Player of the Year Bennedict Mathurin (Canada) and 2018 Pac-12 Conference Player of the Year Deandre Ayton (Bahamas).[31]

I think Spo will be fired by the Heat, and we should hire him.

Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

But that's a terrible way to evaluate fit. 

You can find coaches that are on the cusp of greatness that just need better resources/talent. Prime example is our track/field coach (Floreal). He had a really good program at Kentucky but just needed better resources at Texas to finally win a couple national championships. 

Mike White never went to the national title series at Oregon.  He's been twice at Texas.

Joffe had a runner up finish at aggy but won 2 titles at Texas

Just now, Js1 said:

Mike White never went to the national title series at Oregon.  He's been twice at Texas.

Joffe had a runner up finish at aggy but won 2 titles at Texas

yeah, I think Sean Miller fits the profile to a T of what Del Conte wants. So I'm not surprised his name is being thrown around. 

Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

yeah, I think Sean Miller fits the profile to a T of what Del Conte wants. So I'm not surprised his name is being thrown around. 

If you are Sean Miller you have to tell us. It's the law. 

Can that ego fit in Moody? 

(kidding) 

3 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

yeah, I think Sean Miller fits the profile to a T of what Del Conte wants. So I'm not surprised his name is being thrown around. 

I also think what is intriguing is that Sark sort resurrected himself as a HC at Texas.  Miller could do the same with the right leadership and support system that CDC can provide. 

6 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I think Spo will be fired by the Heat, and we should hire him.

Is this a serious post? It's difficult to tell around here 

3 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

Where the hell did this narrative come from?  Miller literally has zero international talent on his current Xavier roster.

 

From the international guys he brought to Arizona. Europeans don't want to move 3,000 miles to go to Xavier. Texas, however...

1 minute ago, CurlyDumps said:

From the international guys he brought to Arizona. Europeans don't want to move 3,000 miles to go to Xavier. Texas, however...

Been saying that for months - Austin would kill it with international recruits if the coach wants to recruit them. 

2 minutes ago, Fud said:

Is this a serious post? It's difficult to tell around here 

If Spo is available, who's else is available that's better?

I predict that a large number of posters on this board will be unhappy with whoever we hire, but then will be happy if the hire turns out to be a bad one, so they can post "I told you so."

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

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You apparently missed one of my criteria.

Just now, chainsaw said:

If Spo is available, who's else is available that's better?

He's not going to be available. He's not on the hot seat. He's the best coach in the NBA and the Heat aren't going to fire him. If for some reason he's not with the Heat, he'd be the strongest NBA coaching free agent in awhile 

6 minutes ago, Deej said:

I predict that a large number of posters on this board will be unhappy with whoever we hire, but then will be happy if the hire turns out to be a bad one, so they can post "I told you so."

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"I don't even watch basketball but I knew this hire would be bad" 

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Just now, Fud said:

He's not going to be available. He's not on the hot seat. He's the best coach in the NBA and the Heat aren't going to fire him. If for some reason he's not with the Heat, he'd be the strongest NBA coaching free agent in awhile 

Maybe he got his black, red, and white teams confused?

I know shit about fuck. But my take:

We can dream:

Dan Hurley

Billy Donovan

Nate Oats

Bruce Pearl

Varying levels of satisfied, maybe more likely:

Mark Few

Sean Miller

TJ Otz

Not that happy (not enough proof):

Royal Ivey

Tommy Lloyd

Ben McCollum

 

 

4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

If Spo is available, who's else is available that's better?

If you actually think Spo is getting fired you're in the group of most mentally handicapped posters here 

god damn mcneese looks awesome. i honestly don’t see any difference in wade and miller scandal-wise other than the show-cause, and i think i speak for most of us here when i say id rather have wade than miller. i would be really interested in hearing why we won’t touch a guy like wade if we do end up hiring miller. 

3 minutes ago, Derka said:

god damn mcneese looks awesome. i honestly don’t see any difference in wade and miller scandal-wise other than the show-cause, and i think i speak for most of us here when i say id rather have wade than miller. i would be really interested in hearing why we won’t touch a guy like wade if we do end up hiring miller. 

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59 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah nothing wrong except assaulting his fiance....

Consider who you’re replying to

14 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

If Spo is available, who's else is available that's better?

Spurs would get him 

Just now, Derka said:

god damn mcneese looks awesome. i honestly don’t see any difference in wade and miller scandal-wise other than the show-cause, and i think i speak for most of us here when i say id rather have wade than miller. i would be really interested in hearing why we won’t touch a guy like wade if we do end up hiring miller. 

Because he hasn't accomplished much?

Wade has only made the 2nd weekend 1 time in his entire career. I do think Wade is a good coach though that will likely win if you give him resources. 

Just now, Rickylovesweed said:

Because he hasn't accomplished much?

Wade has only made the 2nd weekend 1 time in his entire career. I do think Wade is a good coach though that will likely win if you give him resources. 

Did Wade even coach that postseason or was it his suspension? 

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

I can think of a few assistants in football we couldn’t get through compliance. Let alone a head coach 

Only reason Bo was allowed back is because he had coached here prior. 

15 minutes ago, Fud said:

He's not going to be available. He's not on the hot seat. He's the best coach in the NBA and the Heat aren't going to fire him. If for some reason he's not with the Heat, he'd be the strongest NBA coaching free agent in awhile 

We're Texas.

4 minutes ago, Derka said:

god damn mcneese looks awesome. i honestly don’t see any difference in wade and miller scandal-wise other than the show-cause, and i think i speak for most of us here when i say id rather have wade than miller. i would be really interested in hearing why we won’t touch a guy like wade if we do end up hiring miller. 

 

Yup. I’ve said before I’d be all in on Will Wade

And I’m pretty sure what he and Miller got in trouble for is now legal and nobody cares or talks about their past like that. 

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Yup. I’ve said before I’d be all in on Will Wade

And I’m pretty sure what he and Miller got in trouble for is now legal and nobody cares or talks about their past like that. 

The difference is one had the show cause, one doesn’t. 

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18 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Because he hasn't accomplished much?

no, because he’s leveled out and is no longer the rising star that he was a decade ago. you’ve got this sean miller:

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yep, i’d like to hire him. but then you’ve got this sean miller:

 

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so he falls off a cliff at arizona, gets canned for rampant cheating, gets welcomed back home at xavier, finishes 56th and 40th in kenpom the last two years, and would be willing to bolt from xavier *again* after they welcomed his cheating, losing ass with open arms.

that’s why i don't want it to be sean miller. 

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7 minutes ago, Derka said:

no, because he’s leveled our and is no longer the rising star that he was a decade ago. you’ve got this sean miller:

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yep, i’d like to hire him. but then you’ve got this sean miller:

 

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so he falls off a cliff at arizona, gets canned for rampant cheating, gets welcomed back home at xavier, finishes 56th and 40th in kenpom the last two years, and would be willing to bolt from xavier *again* after they welcomed his cheating, losing ass with open arms.

that’s why i don't want it to be sean miller. 

Thank you. He is a cuck, no thanks. 

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The difference is one had the show cause, one doesn’t. 

Show him the money, Cause i don't care.

I'm firmly in the get a younger guy than Sean Miller camp. Did Wade sign his NC State contract yet?

Maybe CDC can give him something to think about.

2 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

I'm firmly in the get a younger guy than Sean Miller camp. Did Wade sign his NC State contract yet?

Maybe CDC can give him something to think about.

Miller is 56. Age isn’t an issue

2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Miller is 56. Age isn’t an issue

56 but on the back end of his career. I'd rather get a guy still on the upward trend of a career.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

56 but on the tail end of his career. I'd rather get a guy still on the upward trend of a career.

Right, so age isn’t the issue.

Just now, DFW Horn said:

I'm firmly in the get a younger guy than Sean Miller camp. Did Wade sign his NC State contract yet?

Maybe CDC can give him something to think about.

That's not really Del Conte's hiring profile outside of maybe Beard.

Bowman, Floreal, Schloss, White, Metzger, and Schaefer were early 50s to mid 50s if not older. CDC does not seem to be someone that wants to hire young and it's worked for him so far at Texas. 

 

 

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

His career trajectory at this point is an issue. 

Fify

1 minute ago, Rickylovesweed said:

That's not really Del Conte's hiring profile outside of maybe Beard.

Bowman, Floreal, Schloss, White, Metzger, and Schaefer were early 50s to mid 50s if not older. CDC does not seem to be someone that wants to hire young and it's worked for him so far at Texas. 

 

 

You should really break down why those coaches were selected. Miller is not in a category with none of them. Bowman is considered the top coach in the world at his sport. Schloss was considered one of the best baseball coaches in the country and he had prior friendship with. 

 

8 years ago Miller makes sense, now he does not. 

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