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UT's next basketball coach - discussion/debate [Sean Miller Hired]

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  • The absolute simping for a guy who beat his girlfriend and got himself fired for being an asshole is pathetic. There should be more to life than your sports fandom 

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    I don't completely understand the poo pooing of this hire. Maybe expectations were too high regarding who Texas was going to be able to bring in? Sometimes there's a candidate that's such a perfect fi

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37 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Scott Drew turned down Kentucky.

 

lulz, kentucky's basketball history wasn't deep enough for him

 

Edited by tx 3 putt

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Maybe his wife likes Austin more than Lexington. I recall her being a big part of that decision. 

 

saban's wife is still waiting to find a house. she'll have zero chance 

I get we are going to shoot for the stars and hiring a guy with 1 year of D1 experience would be nonstarter for some, but damn I think McCollum is a stud. He is an offense guy too. Buzz Williams said a few years ago when McCollum was still at the D2 level that he was one of the best X’s and O’s coaches in the country.

It's been alluded to in other sports that CDC likes coaches who have had success at multiple programs including a P4 one or at least had sustained high level success. Guys like Schloss, Sark is debatable but had UW, USC, Bama on his resume, the new swim coach, etc.

With that in mind, I would think Otzelberger from ISU would be realistic call #1. Nate Oats if he's interested. Bruce Pearl if he didn't have the baggage. Rick Barnes if he hadn't been fired here lol.

That said, the up-and-comer route does have potential. A bit riskier though so doesn't seem to be CDC's MO. 

5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Isn’t it like 10+ million we’d owe Bama? 

What is Nate Oats' buyout? Oats will owe Alabama $18 million if he leaves in the first two years of his new contract. After March 31, 2026, that buyout falls to $10 million until March 31, 2027. After that, it falls to $4 million for the next year and $0 after that.

 

Otzelberger also has an $18mm buyout AND is a former  Cyclone player.

 

 

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Buzz Williams said a few years ago when McCollum was still at the D2 level that he was one of the best X’s and O’s coaches in the country.

That sounds pretty good right about now. 

Drake has lost their last two games.

I'm kind of holding out hope that it is Royal Ivey. He did an amazing job with South Sudan. I just don't think our opening will align with him being viewed as qualified.  And there is a decent chance that he gets an NBA job and never makes his way to the college ranks. 

Ivey is a Longhorn Legend, but no.

He has no college experience, and today, you need someone who has done the NIL stuff in some capacity. You can’t hire Ivey and tell him to hire assistants who know what they are doing NIL wise. The HC needs that experience (too).

Idk I like Royal Ivey, yea I get the whole NIL, but shid nobody had experience in it until they did. NIL is new for everyone so it’s not like a coach is gonna be an expert, everyone is learning so why not bring a guy like that in who will rally the Texas program bringing most of the Texas X’s back. 

You never know how ppl will adapt, but they’ll adapt, but what we can probably know is Ivey will most likely recruit very well and be a good X’s and O’s Coach 

25 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

What innovative things is the X’s and O’s expert at Drake dialing up?

National championshps!

 

 

Him being only 43 also is a huge plus IMO.

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9 hours ago, D3zii said:

what we can probably know is Ivey will most likely recruit very well

Based on what? His 0 zero college experience? 

23 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

National championshps!

 

 

Him being only 43 also is a huge plus IMO.

So you don’t know anything about him…..got it.

In spite of my great affection for Royal we cannot screw up this next hire. Our next choice has to be a coach with a history of keeping a program(s) at a high level of success at the D1 level.
The concern is RT will do just enough to squeak into the tourney and make it hard to move on, or more likely, we will be justified in moving on, but no home run hire available.
We need this BB purgatory to end, not extend it another 3 or 4 years.

6 minutes ago, TommysTinyTowels said:

The concern is RT will do just enough to squeak into the tourney and make it hard to move on, or more likely, we will be justified in moving on, but no home run hire available.

A) When CDC is at the helm, any hire is available.  Mike White, Vic, Bowman, Floreal and Joffe all came from places they were having huge successes and CDC snagged them. 

B) I'm not concerned that "making the tournament" is going to be an automatic save for RT.  Aston was fired, even making the tournament, and CDC had Vic in his back pocket ready to go.

If CDC has who he wants ready to go, the choice will be made relatively quickly after our last game. That's been the MO for the most part - think Mike White was the one that took the longest to announce. 

Who was it that beat us in the first round, lost in the second, and then fired their coach? 15-20 years ago. Want to say NC State. 

So yeah, I don't think making the tournament as say an 11 seed and losing in the first round would guarantee Terry returns next season.

15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

A) When CDC is at the helm, any hire is available.  Mike White, Vic, Bowman, Floreal and Joffe all came from places they were having huge successes and CDC snagged them. 

B) I'm not concerned that "making the tournament" is going to be an automatic save for RT.  Aston was fired, even making the tournament, and CDC had Vic in his back pocket ready to go.

If CDC has who he wants ready to go, the choice will be made relatively quickly after our last game. That's been the MO for the most part - think Mike White was the one that took the longest to announce. 

Ianello too

21 minutes ago, Pancho said:

I the rumors that CDC is a big basketball guy are true, then I have to hope he’s already done his homework and a new hire will be a Mike Breen type bang.

Sean miller 

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

A) When CDC is at the helm, any hire is available.  Mike White, Vic, Bowman, Floreal and Joffe all came from places they were having huge successes and CDC snagged them. 

Schloss

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bro is another heart attack away from retirement/death.

Double his pay and halve his stress levels and let's see how he responds.

16 minutes ago, Herpa Derpa said:

halve his stress levels

Yeah, because Texas sports fans are notoriously chill

Let’s just hire bill Murray’s son so that we’ll have that going for us.

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

A) When CDC is at the helm, any hire is available.  Mike White, Vic, Bowman, Floreal and Joffe all came from places they were having huge successes and CDC snagged them. 

B) I'm not concerned that "making the tournament" is going to be an automatic save for RT.  Aston was fired, even making the tournament, and CDC had Vic in his back pocket ready to go.

If CDC has who he wants ready to go, the choice will be made relatively quickly after our last game. That's been the MO for the most part - think Mike White was the one that took the longest to announce. 

All lower profile sports.  While CDC has shown he will act decisively, he's also shown he will bend to perception over rational assessment.  I will believe he fires Terry after making the tournament when I see it.

My god, Texas fans are NEVER going to let him live down the RT hire.  Ever.  Period.

Might as well just fire CDC too

Who are the top coaches in the 45-55 year old range? Here are some candidates:

  • Dan Hurley, UConn (52) - 2 Title
  • Scott Drew, Baylor (54) - 1 Title, 2 EE, 2 S16
  • Chris Beard, Ole Miss (51) - 1 FF, 1 EE - Kill me
  • Nate Oats, Alabama (50) - 1 FF, 2 S16
  • Matt Painter, Purdue (54) - 1 FF, 1 EE, 5 S16
  • Tommy Lloyd, Arizona (50) - 2 S16
  • TJ Otzelberger, ISU (47) - 2 S16
  • Dusty May, Michigan (48) - 1 FF
  • Shaka Smart, Marquette (47) - 1 FF, 2 S16 - Kill me
  • Buzz Williams, Aggy (52) - 1 EE, 3 S16 - Meh

Notable under 40:

  • Jon Scheyer, Duke (37) - 1 E8
  • Jake Diebler, Ohio St (38) 
  • Todd Golden, Florida (39)

 

I can tell you, CDC isn't touching Todd Golden after multiple Title IX complaints 

7 minutes ago, HookEm said:

Who are the top coaches in the 45-55 year old range? Here are some candidates:

  • Dan Hurley, UConn (52) - 2 Title
  • Scott Drew, Baylor (54) - 1 Title, 2 EE, 2 S16
  • Chris Beard, Ole Miss (51) - 1 FF, 1 EE - Kill me
  • Nate Oats, Alabama (50) - 1 FF, 2 S16
  • Matt Painter, Purdue (54) - 1 FF, 1 EE, 5 S16
  • Tommy Lloyd, Arizona (50) - 2 S16 (not after Lebrons son just committed)
  • TJ Otzelberger, ISU (47) - 2 S16
  • Dusty May, Michigan (48) - 1 FF
  • Shaka Smart, Marquette (47) - 1 FF, 2 S16 - Kill me
  • Buzz Williams, Aggy (52) - 1 EE, 3 S16 - Meh

Notable under 40:

  • Jon Scheyer, Duke (37) - 1 E8
  • Jake Diebler, Ohio St (38) 
  • Todd Golden, Florida (39)

 

 

Fixed your list

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Chris Jans at Mississippi State would be another obvious candidate worth exploring, but he did get fired from Bowling Green in 2015 for being recorded smacking a women's butt at a bar after a game.

 

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