June 24, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said: Dang ol global pandemic. No kidding, an actual free market would allow them open. It's almost like it's not free, and the loans was for damages.
June 24, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, workswithseed said: Yes, would work better if we didn't force people to close. yeah... and we could stack up another 200,000 - 300,000 bodies and the businesses STILL would have died. Because more educated people (those with the most money) pay attention to science and death rates. It's an illusion to pretend that folks would have kept going out, and workers would be so stupid as to have just kept going to work as their co-workers headed to the hospital? Sorry to be so harsh, but reality sometimes needs to be inserted harshly. The biggest issue is the US has ALWAYS relied on temporary migrant labor, to fill seasonal geographic needs. Whether they produce pickers following crops, international students working the coastal towns of Florida, or the back house of most every place you have eaten at the last 20 years, we use a lot of non- US born folks to fill these roles, legally or illegally. No immigrants due to covid, and just wanting no immigrants and certain industries get additional labor pressures. Fresh off the boat, over the fence, or off the plane labor is a necessity, to maintain the standards we are accustomed to in the service industry. Money will change it some, but not in areas that are seasonal. By definition seasonal areas have huge swings in population, and thus needs for level of service in a small geographic area swing from impossible to manage, to nearly non-existent. For US born folks the wages are no longer being suppressed by the availability of the cheap labor that we bring in for these surges of need. With a smaller supply, those jobs need to be filled and the only way to fill them is to raise wages.
June 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, horn4life said: yeah... and we could stack up another 200,000 - 300,000 bodies and the businesses STILL would have died. Because more educated people (those with the most money) pay attention to science and death rates. It's an illusion to pretend that folks would have kept going out, and workers would be so stupid as to have just kept going to work as their co-workers headed to the hospital? Sorry to be so harsh, but reality sometimes needs to be inserted harshly. I just want the "it's free market forces," people to stop claiming so when it's obviously not the free market that closed off all "non essential" work, most didn't get the chance to try. As I said, the PPP loans was paying damages brought by the forced shut down. Also the bolded is fluff.
June 24, 20214 yr Had a first for me laat night. I had to send back drinks. 2 margaritas on the rocks, and by the time they made it to the table 20 minutes later the ice had completely melted. Half priced fajita night at Lupe Tortilla and it took more than 2 hours to eat dinner.
June 24, 20214 yr Took the wife out and it took 1hr to get 8 piece order of sushi the other night at a quarter full sushi restaurant. Waiter asked if we would like anything else… nope don’t have another hour to wait.
June 24, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, conVINCEd said: Had a first for me laat night. I had to send back drinks. 2 margaritas on the rocks, and by the time they made it to the table 20 minutes later the ice had completely melted. Half priced fajita night at Lupe Tortilla and it took more than 2 hours to eat dinner. 11 minutes ago, Incredulity said: Took the wife out and it took 1hr to get 8 piece order of sushi the other night at a quarter full sushi restaurant. Waiter asked if we would like anything else… nope don’t have another hour to wait.
June 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, workswithseed said: I just want the "it's free market forces," people to stop claiming so when it's obviously not the free market that closed off all "non essential" work, most didn't get the chance to try. As I said, the PPP loans was paying damages brought by the forced shut down. Also the bolded is fluff. I thought I was crystal clear. Free market forces would have closed the businesses down anyhow. Might have been a slow bleed, but they would have closed. Simply because free markets would have made restaurants, movie theaters etc. known transmission points for death and hospitalization. The bonus of such a laissez faire attitude would have been lovely scenes like we got to see in India, with overrun hospitals... maybe folks really would have been saying, "Hey Honey let's go out to eat! But avoid the route near the hospital because of the traffic jam." But I am not dumb enough to believe that. The PPP loans were nothing more than a massive give away to the weathiest Americans, "damages" had nothing to do with it for a LOT of the loans. The great thing about the PPP loans was you DID NOT even need to show any need at all. Just if you owe the bank a lot, they are going to make sure you are first in line to cover their own ass. But that was exactly how the GOP wanted it. No accountability at all.
June 24, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, workswithseed said: I just want the "it's free market forces," people to stop claiming so when it's obviously not the free market that closed off all "non essential" work, most didn't get the chance to try. As I said, the PPP loans was paying damages brought by the forced shut down. Also the bolded is fluff. You're Aggy, right? Would make sense that you don't think science is real.
June 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Chewbacca said: You're Aggy, right? Would make sense that you don't think science is real. What the fuck? Aggy? I want you to point to where I denied science in that post.
June 24, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, horn4life said: The PPP loans were nothing more than a massive give away to the weathiest Americans, "damages" had nothing to do with it for a LOT of the loans. The great thing about the PPP loans was you DID NOT even need to show any need at all. Just if you owe the bank a lot, they are going to make sure you are first in line to cover their own ass. But that was exactly how the GOP wanted it. No accountability at all. You do realize that businesses are required to prove that 60% of PPP loans were used for payroll to be forgiven, right? And that the rest was used for operating? You either don’t own your own business or you’re just just a moron.
June 25, 20214 yr In the past week off the top of my head I've heard or read about the following industries facing a current labor shortage: retail, fuel delivery drivers, appliance repair and possibly airlines. How come none of these rose to national crisis level like fucking retaurant wait staff?
June 25, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Chopper said: In the past week off the top of my head I've heard or read about the following industries facing a current labor shortage: retail, fuel delivery drivers, appliance repair and possibly airlines. How come none of these rose to national crisis level like fucking retaurant wait staff? I’ll take, “Interactions with American consumer” for $2000.
June 25, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, Chopper said: In the past week off the top of my head I've heard or read about the following industries facing a current labor shortage: retail, fuel delivery drivers, appliance repair and possibly airlines. How come none of these rose to national crisis level like fucking retaurant wait staff? Ice delivery as well if the manager of my local convenience store is to be believed. As an aside, don’t ever buy a Samsung refrigerator if you value ice production.
June 25, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, conVINCEd said: As an aside, don’t ever buy a Samsung refrigerator if you value ice production. Maybe Samsung is just short-staffed. Maybe all their ice makers found better jobs
June 25, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Landomatic said: Maybe Samsung is just short-staffed. Maybe all their ice makers found better jobs Mine certainly found a better job. The handle on the freezer drawer filed for disability. I’m out on Samsung.
June 25, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, DDD Dad said: To be fair, I was a pretty nice guy about the whole thing, just assume that is part of the deal these days, and tipped well. But I’m not accepting a watered down rocks margarita with no ice remaining in the glass. The fajitas were yummy as usual despite the fact that I could have ran out to the parking lot and changed the oil in my car by the time they arrived. IMO, the restaurant staffing problem will sort itself out in a few months.
June 25, 20214 yr Servers need to understand they just can't serve a drink like that. I'd send it back too and I never send back anything.
June 25, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, utee94 said: Servers need to understand they just can't serve a drink like that. I'd send it back too and I never send back anything. I’ve sent back 3 things in my life. 2 were steaks that were ordered medium rare and showed up medium well, and these drinks .
June 25, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, conVINCEd said: Mine certainly found a better job. The handle on the freezer drawer filed for disability. I’m out on Samsung. I love their TVs, to the point of being pretty damn brand loyal to them. Every plasma television in each of my homes is Samsung 😜 Their appliances are apparently pure shit though. Our current house had a brand new Samsung range in it. Sucked so bad I ended up donating it. Got a new washer and dryer for the same home (before I knew how bad the range sucked) and they sucked so bad I ended up returning them.
June 25, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, Landomatic said: I love their TVs, to the point of being pretty damn brand loyal to them. Every plasma television in each of my homes is Samsung 😜 Their appliances are apparently pure shit though. Our current house had a brand new Samsung range in it. Sucked so bad I ended up donating it. Got a new washer and dryer for the same home (before I knew how bad the range sucked) and they sucked so bad I ended up returning them. Ain’t no apparently to it. Small sample size and all of that, but I bought the fridge because the BIL did a whole bunch of research and came to the conclusion that this was the fridge to buy. He’s a pretty thorough guy, and we both needed a new fridge around the same time. We now both get our ice from 7-11, and both have a broken handle on the freezer drawer. If you think I’m being cheap for not replacing the handle on the drawer that is fine, but it’s north of $500 because you can’t buy just the handle, you have to purchase the entire lower drawer assembly, and I am moving to another state in a few months, and the fridge will go to goodwill at that point. Fuck Samsung, and yes, every tv in my house is a Samsung. That will change the next time I have to purchase a tv.
June 25, 20214 yr Samsung fridge ice makers are pure shit. Ours kept having issues, then I googled it to find out it's a well known issue. I had to buy a countertop ice maker because I was tired of that thing freezing up and having to pull it all out to defrost. I'll never buy another Samsung appliance again. Their appliances visually look pretty impressive with their integration of electronics, but never again.
June 25, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, conVINCEd said: But I’m not accepting a watered down rocks margarita with no ice remaining in the glass.
June 25, 20214 yr 47 minutes ago, conVINCEd said: Ain’t no apparently to it. Small sample size and all of that, but I bought the fridge because the BIL did a whole bunch of research and came to the conclusion that this was the fridge to buy. He’s a pretty thorough guy, and we both needed a new fridge around the same time. We now both get our ice from 7-11, and both have a broken handle on the freezer drawer. If you think I’m being cheap for not replacing the handle on the drawer that is fine, but it’s north of $500 because you can’t buy just the handle, you have to purchase the entire lower drawer assembly, and I am moving to another state in a few months, and the fridge will go to goodwill at that point. Fuck Samsung, and yes, every tv in my house is a Samsung. That will change the next time I have to purchase a tv. We bought our fridge (no idea what brand) in Nebraska Furniture Mart's discount area for about 1/3rd of the price. Only thing wrong with it was the door handle. Going on 5 years without one, you'll be fine. (also, bought an extra Ice Maker.....)
June 26, 20214 yr FWIW we've been out several times the past couple of weeks, lunch and dinner, and service has been great. i'd call it outstanding at a couple places. the neighborhood sushi place, the owner was hustling more than the staff. feels like things are starting to even out and stabilize 🤘
June 26, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, mchookem said: FWIW we've been out several times the past couple of weeks, lunch and dinner, and service has been great. i'd call it outstanding at a couple places. the neighborhood sushi place, the owner was hustling more than the staff. feels like things are starting to even out and stabilize 🤘 Ebisu?
June 26, 20214 yr On 6/24/2021 at 7:51 PM, conVINCEd said: Ice delivery as well if the manager of my local convenience store is to be believed. As an aside, don’t ever buy a Samsung refrigerator if you value ice production. Totally anecdotal but during my Saturday morning beer run this morning I noticed, perhaps for the first time ever, HEB was completely out of ice. It may just be coincidental but that was the first time I’d ever seen that occur.
July 14, 20214 yr Terry Black's BBQ just posted a full-time vacancy for a Meat Trimmer/Sausage Maker...$27-30/hour.
July 14, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, CooterBrown said: Terry Black's BBQ just posted a full-time vacancy for a Meat Trimmer/Sausage Maker...$27-30/hour. Your mom should apply.
July 15, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, CooterBrown said: Terry Black's BBQ just posted a full-time vacancy for a Meat Trimmer/Sausage Maker...$27-30/hour. 7 hours ago, CooterBrown said: They also just posted a cashier position for up to $23/hour. God damn, that’s actually tempting. I’ve been contemplating a job with extremely little responsibility and that might fit the bill.
July 15, 20214 yr Dang... so somebody owes me almost the cost of my two briskets this weekend... just for slicing them up?
July 15, 20214 yr 16 hours ago, CooterBrown said: They also just posted a cashier position for up to $23/hour. 9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said: God damn, that’s actually tempting. I’ve been contemplating a job with extremely little responsibility and that might fit the bill. wondering the same...wonder if my CFO title will qualify to handle money
July 15, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Biff Tannen said: God damn, that’s actually tempting. I’ve been contemplating a job with extremely little responsibility and that might fit the bill.
July 15, 20214 yr wondering the same...wonder if my CFO title will qualify to handle moneyA corporate financial officer? Everyone knows you’re a crook.
July 15, 20214 yr On 6/24/2021 at 1:57 PM, conVINCEd said: Had a first for me laat night. I had to send back drinks. 2 margaritas on the rocks, and by the time they made it to the table 20 minutes later the ice had completely melted. Half priced fajita night at Lupe Tortilla and it took more than 2 hours to eat dinner. This has got to be the location on MOPAC near 183. That bartender there is a fucking clueless asshat that can't make drinks to save his fucking life. We quit going a few weeks ago because having to wait 15 minutes to order and then 15 minutes to get the drink before the fuckstick would even take you dinner order is fucking stupid. We sat and watched one day with a timer counting. There were exactly 16 other people at the bar. It took 24 minutes before I took a sip of my first drink.
July 15, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Orange&White said: This has got to be the location on MOPAC near 183. That bartender there is a fucking clueless asshat that can't make drinks to save his fucking life. We quit going a few weeks ago because having to wait 15 minutes to order and then 15 minutes to get the drink before the fuckstick would even take you dinner order is fucking stupid. We sat and watched one day with a timer counting. There were exactly 16 other people at the bar. It took 24 minutes before I took a sip of my first drink. Dallas.
July 15, 20214 yr We went to dinner last friday at a local BBQ place. They have 6-7 stores in the OKC metro, been in business over 20 years. We go in and the first thing I notice is another family standing around. Usually you get seated right away, and there were plenty of open tables, so it was odd. We had to order our food at this walk-up counter and I heard the manager (I assume because he was the only one wearing a polo shirt) quietly tell my wife "We have no servers tonight". Our food was delivered quickly and it was fine, no complaints. I did notice the place was nearly empty. I have no idea if they're a shitty employer that is now reaping what they've sown or if it's just the way things are going.
July 16, 20214 yr Great service at La Joie last night. Food was excellent, too. Just thought I'd throw in some positivity on this thread, for a change of pace.
July 16, 20214 yr Tried to have lunch in Idaho Springs, CO and the wait was 35 minutes for a table, and 1 hour for food. Reason, understaffed. Went to a fast food place closer to Denver.
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