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18 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

It's almost like you won't venture any further analysis because you know your actual beliefs re: black families are obviously racist. Weird.

Pelosi's district is 6.3% black.

You picked Pelosi because you're a grab bag of tired right-wing talking points.

I’m willing to change my mind if confronted with enough evidence to the contrary of my belief, like most reasonable people, but I haven’t read anything persuasive as of yet. 

Pelosi is the minorty leader of the United States House of Representatives, stop being naive. 

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  • deadshank
    deadshank

    Well, OK.  Is voting against someone because of their skin color the same thing as voting for someone becuase of their skin color?  Are you voting against a qualified white candidate  only because you

  • DixonHur
    DixonHur

    I hate to be a buzz kill, but that's never going to happen.  And it's not just "white people", there's not a race, creed, or ethnic group on the planet that doesn't have bias against at least one othe

  • deadshank
    deadshank

    I prefer Appalachian-American.

People are tribalistic and will never stop being so. The goal is not to fix the human condition, which is literally impossible, it is to mitigate the most damaging aspects of our social flaws.

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I’m willing to change my mind if confronted with enough evidence to the contrary of my belief, like most reasonable people, but I haven’t read anything persuasive as of yet. 

Your belief as to what is the cause behind the dissolution of the black family is not even stated, much less backed by evidence.

Your argument is literally, "I don't know, but it's not racism!"

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Pelosi is the minorty leader of the United States House of Representatives, stop being naive. 

And that title gives her influence and sway within the black community?

Let’s do reparations. And then move the fuck on.  I’m dead serious. Would a twenty percent wealth tax on all whites be enough?

If not, give me a number.

19 hours ago, Incredulity said:

That presupposes a remotely limited number of mortgage sources and that mortgages decisions are made on an either/or basis.  Thats not the case.

I’m talking housing.  Like an apt.  1 vs 1

27 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Let’s do reparations. And then move the fuck on.  I’m dead serious. Would a twenty percent wealth tax on all whites be enough?

If not, give me a number.

About three fiddy but you still wouldn’t shut the fuck up. Neither would they. 

2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

People are tribalistic and will never stop being so. The goal is not to fix the human condition, which is literally impossible, it is to mitigate the most damaging aspects of our social flaws.

Your belief as to what is the cause behind the dissolution of the black family is not even stated, much less backed by evidence.

Your argument is literally, "I don't know, but it's not racism!"

And that title gives her influence and sway within the black community?

I don’t believe 75% of black children were born out of wedlock in 2017 due to racism, no. I think that’s silly. 

Considering that she was voted in as minorty leader by members with larger minority constituencies, yes I believe she has influence. 

53 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

About three fiddy but you still wouldn’t shut the fuck up. Neither would they. 

This is 100% accurate.

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Let’s do reparations. And then move the fuck on.  I’m dead serious. Would a twenty percent wealth tax on all whites be enough?

If not, give me a number.

Sign me up as well. 

Just now, Chrispy said:

I don’t believe 75% of black children were born out of wedlock in 2017 due to racism, no. I think that’s silly. 

Considering that she was voted in as minorty leader by members with larger minority constituencies, yes I believe she has influence. 

Racism has definitely played a role in creating the society in which 75% of black children were born out of wedlock.

15 hours ago, deadshank said:

It's always about race around these parts. 

 

Trying to figure out who brings race into these discussions.

5 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

Sign me up as well. 

If you're eager to sign up because you think it will end the discussion of race in America, you will be disappointed.

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Racism has definitely played a role in creating the society in which 75% of black children were born out of wedlock.

I’ve admitted as much. Do I think it’s the primary factor? No. 

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

If you're eager to sign up because you think it will end the discussion of race in America, you will be disappointed.

Well, that stinks. 

5 hours ago, slorch said:

I embrace and acknowledge our history.

 

I refuse to accept responsibility( and your dumptruck load of guilt) for it.

 

Every man has basic fundamental choices to make in life, and when they continuously choose the wrong things, it's not on me to get em through it.

 

That doesn't mean I am not generous, compassionate, and charitable.  Those things happen without the bullshit guilt trip though. I understand someone being down in life.  I've absolutely lived it.  Eventually, every man must take responsibility for what's happening though. If you want your situation to change, start making better choices in life.  Stop blaming the other guy.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Let’s do reparations. And then move the fuck on.  I’m dead serious. Would a twenty percent wealth tax on all whites be enough?

If not, give me a number.

 

The growing socialist party would want a hell of lot more than that.

16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

If you're eager to sign up because you think it will end the discussion of race in America, you will be disappointed.

until there is a huge increase in personal responsibility we will have a discussion of race in America.

4 minutes ago, po elvis said:

until there is a huge increase in personal responsibility we will have a discussion of race in America.

Yep.

5 hours ago, slorch said:

I refuse to accept responsibility.

Sad!

DD, what are you doing to take responsibility for your racism toward African Americans?

Just now, deadshank said:

DD, what are you doing to take responsibility for your racism toward African Americans?

I vote and do everything in my power not to exacerbate the problem by being racist.

Just now, David Dennison said:

I vote and do everything in my power not to exacerbate the problem by being racist.

You vote. Well, OK.

You do everything in your power to NOT be racist (your answer doesn't read well but I get what you mean).

In your opinion, what is "being racist?"   Overt acts?  Subtle acts?  Just being white? Any act contrary to the perceived general wishes of another race?

Serious.  Not trap questions.  Just trying to understand you. 

9 minutes ago, deadshank said:

DD, what are you doing to take responsibility for your racism toward African Americans?

He has said that he’s trying to get white people of out office I believe. 

19 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You don't say.

for the past.

Nice edit, bro.

Just now, Chrispy said:

He has said that he’s trying to get white people of out office I believe. 

Something like that.  Yesterday IIRC.  

6 minutes ago, deadshank said:

You vote. Well, OK.

You do everything in your power to NOT be racist (your answer doesn't read well but I get what you mean).

In your opinion, what is "being racist?"   Overt acts?  Subtle acts?  Just being white? Any act contrary to the perceived general wishes of another race?

Serious.  Not trap questions.  Just trying to understand you. 

I agree with Ibram Kendi on this: being racist is regarding one racial group as being inferior or superior to another racial group in any way.

Edited by David Dennison

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I agree with Ibram Kendi on this: being racist is regarding one racial group as being inferior or superior to another racial group in any way.

I have no problem with that. I don't believe any one race is better or worse than another.  Stamped from the Beginning seems to be an inetetsing book.  

Just reading and agreeing with a book's premise does not make non-racist.  We all have some in us to a degree. All of us. 

13 hours ago, David Dennison said:

One of the biggest problems in this country is the failure of white people to come to terms with our nation's history. It makes them very uncomfortable. This thread is a perfect example of that.

Our history is not my opinion.

Nothing in our nation's history contributed to you being a retard, you own that by yourself.

1 minute ago, deadshank said:

I have no problem with that. I don't believe any one race is better or worse than another.  Stamped from the Beginning seems to be an inetetsing book.  

Just reading and agreeing with a book's premise does not make non-racist.  We all have some in us to a degree. All of us. 

That's precisely why we need to work on it and not "move the fuck on" which, apparently, some people would like to do

Nobody is perfect. Well, one guy was and we hung Him on a cross. 

I think some people do work on it. Some don't.  But that's up to them.  Claiming that "white men in power" is on its face "racist"  is sweeping generalization that's a little hubristic. 

1 minute ago, deadshank said:

Nobody is perfect. Well, one guy was and we hung Him on a cross. 

I think some people do work on it. Some don't.  But that's up to them.  Claiming that "white men in power" is on its face "racist"  is sweeping generalization that's a little hubristic. 

I never claimed that white men in power is on its face racist.

On 5/5/2018 at 10:37 AM, bad_teammate said:

You're being purposefully obtuse, but here we go anyway...

If Person A and Person B both want to buy the same house, but Person B saw it first and applied for the same loan at the same bank with the same financial situation and is denied, but then Person A is granted the loan and purchases the home. Did Person A benefit from the denial of Person B?

Simple question. Please answer.

Apply online dumbass. Or is Skynet racist as well.

maybe rocket mortgage is racist. You seem to want to reset race relations back 50 years so you can feel good about your white guilt and how progressive you are. 

 

It is sad you think an entire grouP of people are not capable to help themselves because of their skin color b

2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

It is sad you think an entire grouP of people are not capable to help themselves because of their skin color b

What you don't recognize is that an entire group of people, capable or not, have been advantaged because of their skin color.

On 5/3/2018 at 5:39 PM, David Dennison said:

I'm white. I know where I stand. I know that the number of white men in power is disproportionate to the number of white men in the general population. The numbers tend to skew in our favor in a big way. I'm trying to change that with every vote. 

You allude to just that in this post. 

Just now, deadshank said:

You allude to just that in this post. 

You can infer whatever you want. That statement is about political power.

4 minutes ago, 5 5 said:

What's the murder rate like at country music concerts?! The answer: Worse than rap concerts. 

Lol at violent psycho upper class whites from two parent households. 

White people are violent for myriad reasons that are worth exploring in depth. White people violence is not supposed to be lumped together.

Black people violence, however...

1 hour ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Apply online dumbass.

Yes, racism doesn't matter,  you just have to go through a bunch of different steps than me and your options are dramatically reduced and the penalties for failure ar emuch higher!

Level playing field!!

Just now, bad_teammate said:

White people are violent for myriad reasons that are worth exploring in depth. White people violence is not supposed to be lumped together.

Black people violence, however...

White violence is a mental health issue for which the individual is accountable.

Black violence is a cultural issue for which the group is accountable. 

Murica.

Black males make up about 6 percent of our population. And account for almost half our murders.

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

Black males make up about 6 percent of our population. And account for almost half our murders.

What does that tell you?

Just now, David Dennison said:

What does that tell you?

They kill a lot more than others. Probably due to white privilege. 

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

They kill a lot more than others. Probably due to white privilege. 

You don't think that it's due to white privilege.

Why do you think black males kill a lot more than others?

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

You don't think that it's due to white privilege.

Why do you think black males kill a lot more than others?

They have to be whiny and sarcastic because they know they'll be yelled at if they say what they really believe.

4 minutes ago, 5 5 said:

Stalin & Hitler were white. 

White Americans committed genocide against the native Americans and white Americans & Europeans enslaved virtually all of Africa.

But crips vs bloods on the bad side of the railroad tracks = an immutable racial indictment.

Most of the enslavers in Africa were black. Blacks sold fellow blacks into slavery to South American and North American buyers. 

2 minutes ago, 5 5 said:

White people are also praying for if not outright planning a biblical Armageddon which will annihilate billions of innocent people, so that Presbyterian 1%ers can re-congregate in space heaven.

But omg that Ludicrous album!

Sounds like blacks are doing great and we could all learn from their nonviolence 

1 minute ago, 5 5 said:

Conceal. And carry on! 

Yep. It’s concealed carry holders you need to worrying about. They are a big threat to shoot you. And a big threat to break into your house and steal your flat screen. 

3 minutes ago, 5 5 said:

Oh, I get it, you're being facetious. Sorry. Carry on!

You think white Europeans were the ones capturing and selling  slaves?

Edited by Johnny Sack

See, I told everyone johnny sack is a known racist 

1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

You think white Europeans were the ones capturing and selling  slaves?

Yes.

But so what?

Just now, 5 5 said:

Blacks are better than whites because they invented rock & roll, sports & Alexander Hamilton (ie, the American economic system).

Whites invented serial killing, mayonnaise & Exxon.

Bullshit. See Back to the Future

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