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On 7/4/2021 at 9:37 AM, Braff Zacklin said:

What blows my mind is how polarizing the word "irony" and its various forms are. There are basically two camps, and they both get worked up into a lather over the other's usage.

Per any dictionary you will find, ironic means:

  • using words in a way that convey the opposite of their literal meaning (so, basically, a form of sarcasm)
  • a coincidental, unintended or unexpected outcome

So, in conclusion:

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I blame Alanis.... yea, I really do think.

 

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Yea, people don't seem to realize that irony isn't a monolith and there are sub-verticals: dramatic irony, literal irony, situational irony etc.

I guess to help the literal-minded folks who have a hard time with flexible/creative thinking on their feet, the author should actually denote which flavor of irony they are referencing as a "belts and suspenders", but I personally feel like people shouldn't be so bent out of shape and pedantic in the first place.

That said, my favorite cartoon clip in an ocean of awesome clips, after a couple of scenes where Bender corrects a character by chiding "That's not ironic, it's just ____"

 

 

It's ironic that after being so invested in these playoffs from the jump my interest has died off to the point where I may or may not watch the Finals.

Is that an acceptable usage?

I don't know if it's ironic but I'm more or less in the same boat. I'll probably watch because I think Phoenix is a somewhat compelling team but Milwaukee minus Giannis for a 7-game series is a foregone conclusion really.

4 minutes ago, Llogg said:

I don't know if it's ironic but I'm more or less in the same boat. I'll probably watch because I think Phoenix is a somewhat compelling team but Milwaukee minus Giannis for a 7-game series is a foregone conclusion really.

Yeah. CP3 winning it is the only compelling thing left. I'll throw up in my mouth a bit if the Bucks win. 

But whatever. You play the hand you're dealt. Just a strange season. 

Rigid prescriptivism masquerading as intellectual superiority is ironic.

I root for the horns, so without KD, I'm on team PJ.

3 minutes ago, Mole said:

Rigid prescriptivism masquerading as intellectual superiority is ironic.

Is this some stupid shot because you're the one rooting for a team simply based on where someone went to college. 

5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Is this some stupid shot because you're the one rooting for a team simply based on where someone went to college. 

Do you find that ironic?

3 minutes ago, Mole said:

Do you find that ironic?

Yes. That would be the best example so far, actually. 

Only if you're calling me out for not being interested in shitty basketball, though. 

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yes. That would be the best example so far, actually. 

Only if you're calling me out for not being interested in shitty basketball, though. 

My dig was only at the language smack. The best part of the NBA playoffs for me is watching the best players in the world try to figure out each other in a 7-game series. I don't really care about new teams winning it or the drama of surprise teams winning it. I honestly don't even care that much about who wins or loses, other than pulling for horns to win. I just want to watch the best players play against each other. There's something magical about the swings that happen over 7 games as each team adapts with such great players.

I agree that it's a lot less interesting when the best players in the world keep getting hurt.

1 minute ago, Mole said:

My dig was only at the language smack. The best part of the NBA playoffs for me is watching the best players in the world try to figure out each other in a 7-game series. I don't really care about new teams winning it or the drama of surprise teams winning it. I honestly don't even care that much about who wins or loses, other than pulling for horns to win. I just want to watch the best players play against each other. There's something magical about the swings that happen over 7 games as each team adapts with such great players.

I agree that it's a lot less interesting when the best players in the world keep getting hurt.

My issue is that the best players in the world aren't competing. Giannis is like at best the 6th best player in the league for me and he may or may not play. CP3 and Book are next up but I don't put either of them in my top 10. 

So, yeah, we're probably on the same page. Just wasn't sure if your comment was a shot at my lack of interest because I think any NBA fan has a right to feel meh about this matchup. If you're some pants above your waist fundamentals guy then yeah it might be right up your alley but who the fuck of those guys even watch the NBA?

I'm going to watch the shit out of this series. I hate baseball and football is still two months away. This is the last drink of water before a long brutal hot walk through the desert. What the fuck is wrong with you people? 

5 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

What the fuck is wrong with you people? 

Are you serious? I have almost 24k posts here. I thought I'd made "what's wrong with me" abundantly clear. 

I think it would be ironic if CP3 wins the title.

On 7/4/2021 at 5:26 AM, shadow_operative said:

god damn it, why does nobody know what the word "ironic" means?!?!?! there is nothing ironic about that referee working this game. it's borderline coincidental, but it is nowhere near being "ironic", and it blows my mind that 99% of adults still have no clue how to use that word. 

edit: just went and looked up this illiterate clown's credentials:

Education: St. Bonaventure University, BA in journalism/mass communication, 2007

so you went to a good school where you studied to be someone who writes for a living, you're employed by one of the biggest papers in America, and you have no idea what the word "ironic" means. fantastic. 

There's a song that does a good job of explaining it

46 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

There's a song that does a good job of explaining it

It's liyike raaaaain on your weeeeeding daaaay it's a freeeeee riiiiiiiide when you've already paid...

On 7/3/2021 at 10:53 PM, Machinator said:

And PJ with the likely dagger to get to his first NBA finals.

Also put him over 12.5 points rebounds and assists 

He went over on that prop bet 5 games out of 6 in the ATL series. Thanks PJ! 💰 

3 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

It would be the most Chris Paul thing ever for him to get hurt in the finals and not win a ring. 

Did he get hurt? 

CP putting in work. 

If CP is going to be the best player in this series MIL has zero shot.

Hey did you guys know that there are people that stand outside the MIL arena and watch the games there?

Hey did you guys know that there are people that stand outside the MIL arena and watch the games there?

They should name it the deer stand

Suns Nets would have been an awesome Finals. 

9 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Suns Nets would have been an awesome Finals. 

Yes it would

3 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Well…might have something resembling a good ending

Thankfully. Was getting a little dull there for a bit.

Hahaha Booker is mad that CP got Ayton's 20th rebound and CP went to try and have the scorekeeper give it to Ayton. 

Hahaha Booker is mad that CP got Ayton's 20th rebound and CP went to try and have the scorekeeper give it to Ayton. 

Well yea. Book knew we needed the statmuse tweet about Ayton being the first Bahamian player in NBA history to be under 23 years old and to have a 20/20 game in their finals debut.

Brook Lopez a solid -17 +/- in 23 minutes. Got abused in the pick and roll. 

Gotta reduce his minutes and hope Jrue Holiday plays better. 

Milwaukee takes the dumbest shots and have all playoffs. 

That counting thing the Phoenix fans do is pretty funny.

Agreed. Think Giannis is smart enough to figure out he’s shooting ~50% right now at the stripe. Maybe a few dribbles and a breath might make the counting stop?

omg milwake. get some discipline on offense. if they just got 5% smarter they would win this 

cp3 is such a good, dirty fucker. stockton or hornacek style when any pick is being done. 

28 minutes ago, Helobious said:

That counting thing the Phoenix fans do is pretty funny.

Dunno.  It's like watching a Japanese movie with the audio and lip movement out of sync.  

3 minutes ago, staboner said:

omg milwake. get some discipline on offense. if they just got 5% smarter they would win this 

They shouldn't be here so kind of hard to blame them. 

That Phx possession had about 35 passes before the Ayton And-1.

Middleton and Holiday, not good enough 

This series once again proving elite offense over anything.

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