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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

Knock yourself out. I’m sure plenty of folks put money into acv studies. Or, you know, you could exercise your own self vaunted skills.

Of course, an honest person would acknowledge that vinegar and ivermectin are in different categories, in so far as harm is considered, and in no way equate the two. Nevertheless, you have said enough, and truth is there for the discerning. Go suck fascist ass.

LOL. vIneGaR aND iVeRMeCtIn ArE nOT thE sAMe CAteGOriEs. 

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The fascists are suppressing apple cider vinegar. 
 

very normal brained shit. 

Decades ago, I used to suffer from gout. High uric acid. For years I tool Allopurinol, daily, to no effect. When I took the advice of a vediic medicine practitioner, and ingested one fluid ounce of equal parts apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, and honey, first thing every morning for one month, my blood test showed my uric acid levels were low normal. Only one data point, for sure. But, remarkable. And the results proving this are part of my medical history.

So, I have no problem believing acv aids weight loss, when limiting caloric intake and increasing exercise. The studies I cited say the same thing

2 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Decades ago, I used to suffer from gout. High uric acid. For years I tool Allopurinol, daily, to no effect. When I took the advice of a vediic medicine practitioner, and ingested one fluid ounce of equal parts apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, and honey, first thing every morning for one month, my blood test showed my uric acid levels were low normal. Only one data point, for sure. But, remarkable. And the results proving this are part of my medical history.

So, I have no problem believing acv aids weight loss, when limiting caloric intake and increasing exercise. The studies I cited say the same thing

You might actually be triplehorn reincarnated. 

21 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

I haven’t read the whole thread, and this might have already been posted. But, for those trying to lose weight, this study shows consuming apple cider vinegar (and I will suggest acv with bacteria) daily significantly increases weight loss. 
 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1756464618300483?via%3Dihub

Start out with 1/2tsp in water. It is suggested to imbibe the vinegar/water before meals. Increase, as palatable, to two TBS, spread out thrice daily.

That’s just a mild diuretic that takes water weight out of the body. That’s crap science. Imo. With all due respect. 

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

That’s just a mild diuretic that takes water weight out of the body. That’s crap science. Imo. With all due respect. 

Okay. That makes sense. I’ll bring your comment to my pcp and get her reaction.

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You motherfuckers need to exercise more and eat less crap instead of snorting vinegar.

1 hour ago, Basil said:

You motherfuckers need to exercise more and eat less crap instead of snorting vinegar.

Maybe if your mother wasn’t such an enthusiastic whore I’d get more exercise.

1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

Maybe if your mother wasn’t such an enthusiastic whore I’d get more exercise.

Doesn't banging whores count as exercise?

39 minutes ago, F250 said:

Doesn't banging whores count as exercise?

Think of Royce in Terms of Endearment.

Meta analysis from this year

 

10 studies deemed high enough quality for authors to include. I only read the abstract but looks like ACV can be beneficial. Improvements shown in weight loss, BMI, and waist circumference. 
 

Another meta analysis showed improvement in lipids and glucose control and insulin sensitivity. Most studies looked at 1 to 2 tablespoons per day. 
 

No studies I saw mentioned effects of banging whores but I may write up a grant proposal 

A couple of tbsp of ACV probably can't do much harm, but probably don't swill it around in your mouth very long.

I'm going to guess that it's less pharmacologically active than ivermectin, so less potential to do harm or have unintended side effects.  But eating many food substances in regular quantities can have unintended effects.

But, it does crack me up when the health nuts claim that naturally occurring (chemical) substances aren't "chemicals."

It's all chemicals, all the way down.  It does seem, though, that synthesized or refined chemicals can be more dangerous than naturally occurring counterparts.

34 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

A couple of tbsp of ACV probably can't do much harm, but probably don't swill it around in your mouth very long.

I'm going to guess that it's less pharmacologically active than ivermectin, so less potential to do harm or have unintended side effects.  But eating many food substances in regular quantities can have unintended effects.

But, it does crack me up when the health nuts claim that naturally occurring (chemical) substances aren't "chemicals."

It's all chemicals, all the way down.  It does seem, though, that synthesized or refined chemicals can be more dangerous than naturally occurring counterparts.

I attended a ranching school wherein a college girl swore that apple cider vinegar kept the flies away from her cattle. Sure, I’ll try it. So I bought about $200 worth of vinegar from Wal-Mart and mixed it with my cows’ salt. 
It didn’t keep the flies away, my cattle seemed averse to the taste, and my damn pickup smelled like apple cider vinegar for a week. I can’t stand sour things. 
The girl was cute, though. 

I’ve made effective use of vinegar in my weight loss journey by boiling it with roasted peppers, blending it into a smooth liquid, and then making a regular daily practice of applying it liberally to increase the palatability of a diet rich in protein but comparatively low in calories.

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

10 studies deemed high enough quality for authors to include.

I guess high quality is relative. Of the 10 underlying studies, at least one of them has been retracted (also happens to be one that the authors rated most highly on quality), majority were open label, and there are indicators of publication bias in the articles that were included. The point estimates for weight loss (~15lbs) given the duration of the underlying studies is improbable, so of course deserves some scrutiny. 

I didn't dig into all the studies, but here is the retraction that popped with literally the second underlying article that I looked at. Not a good look when the only underlying study that was published in a journal family you would recognize is retracted.

https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2025/09/23/bmjnph-2023-000823ret

Wide ranging concerns were raised about the quality of the work after publication, including the approach to statistical analysis of the dataset; implausible values; concern about the reliability of the underlying dataset; inadequate reporting of the work; and absence of prospective trial registration, which is a breach of BMJ policy.2 3

11 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

I’ve made effective use of vinegar in my weight loss journey by boiling it with roasted peppers, blending it into a smooth liquid, and then making a regular daily practice of applying it liberally to increase the palatability of a diet rich in protein but comparatively low in calories.

So you're putting it on your dick?

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47 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So you're putting it on your dick?

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I didn’t mean to imply that with what I wrote. But

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3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

A couple of tbsp of ACV probably can't do much harm, but probably don't swill it around in your mouth very long.

Add the ACV to water. Take three times a day, with daily total adding up to one to two tablespoons.

1 cup hot green tea. Add Tbs ACV, Tbs EVOO, juice of 1/2 small lemon, tsp honey

 

I Don’t know if it has health benefits but it tastes awful and you won’t want to eat anything for a while 

I once had a nice chat about how to use different flavored vinegars with Jennifer Montana at a Dean & DeLuca in Napa Valley.  They were picking up a few supplies for the weekend, but they were headed out for dinner that night with some friends to a brand new place called "French Laundry."

She was one of the most stunning human beings I've ever talked to, and she was as pleasant as could be.  Just engaging and chatty, couldn't have been nicer.  Imagine this, 25 years ago (and there's not a thing wrong with her today):

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She didn't offer any health advice, though.  If she had, from her, I probably would have taken it.

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