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#5401
20 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

It’s one thing to get up for 2-4 games a year. But I mean if you don’t bring your “A” game to Lubbock, Ames, Ft Worth, Waco, Morgantown, etc., you’ll get cooked.

Well, maybe not Lubbock.

 

 

20 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

KU used to be the easy W in the conference and they certainly aren’t that any more.

 

Seemed easy enough to me.

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#5404
On 11/8/2023 at 12:24 PM, statsman said:

We have most of a season of ratings in. Brett Yormark has a problem. Ratings in games between the remaining B12 teams range from mediocre to wretched. 
 
In week 4, BU-UCF (added, because…Florida!) was watched by 340k, mid day on FS1. They were out viewed by the BTN also-rams matchup at the same time. Baylor has been relegated to streaming at this point in the season, with a streak of games on ESPN+. 
 
You could argue that maybe viewers were lured away by UH-TT on FS2 at the same time (it was viewed by 188k). 
 
In week 9, UH played KSU at noon on ESPN2, and was viewed by 371K. That’s 40k more than the viewers of UTEP-SHSU later that night on ESPN2.

My prediction is that this conference will be taken over by the four add ins next year. If the Left Behinds are smart, they’ll let them.  
 
 

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#5405
5 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

I’ll be in Ames Saturday. Y’all be nice hosts, now. 

I can’t make any promises for those white devils.

#5406

If they aren’t willing to chug ( cheap) beer, they won’t have fun in Ames…

#5407
22 minutes ago, slorch said:

If they aren’t willing to chug ( cheap) beer, they won’t have fun in Ames…

I’ll have fun regardless. Hoping the Longhorns don’t make me regret going to the game. 

#5408
16 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

I’ll have fun regardless. Hoping the Longhorns don’t make me regret going to the game. 

The Texas team that walked into Bryant-Denny wins comfortably.  The Texas that walked into the second half in Amon Carter leaves in a body bag.

#5409
19 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The Texas team that walked into Bryant-Denny wins comfortably.  The Texas that walked into the second half in Amon Carter leaves in a body bag.

It’s the coach that creates the issue. The same coach was calling plays in both instances. 

#5410
19 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

It’s the coach that creates the issue. The same coach was calling plays in both instances. 

My favorite calls are the flat passes 2-3 yards behind the LOS for no gain/loss.

#5412

From article above:

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But what if Texas loses? We’re not even going to cross that bridge until it happens. The Longhorns have ISU and Texas Tech left on their schedule.

 

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#5415
7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Hilarious...  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Huge for recruiting imo

#5417

A lot of out-of-staters ask me, "Say man, what is the most intense part of the Bluebonnet Rivalry?"

Like, what you guys on here from Texas say it is...?

Well, it's the rape.

#5418
On 11/12/2023 at 8:33 AM, DFW Horn said:

My favorite calls are the flat passes 2-3 yards behind the LOS for no gain/loss.

Those passes were very productive against Bama. 

#5419
18 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Hilarious...  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Bluebonnet Battle? Yikes.

#5420
10 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Those passes were very productive against Bama. 

He probably forgot about the pass behind the LOS to Brooks that went for 80 yards last week.   I guess Sark should just call the plays behind the LOS that went for big gains and not the others. 

#5422
On 11/8/2023 at 9:22 PM, statsman said:

Well, it will be interesting. Both UT and tOSU are playing their games at the same time. We’ll see how much of Ohio and Texas that Cincy and the Cougars can draw. 

 

On 11/8/2023 at 8:39 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

Cincy at Coug High at 6pm Saturday on FS1. Will viewership beat attendance at Robertson? Treasures? 

Results are in. 176k viewers. Worse than E. Michigan at Toledo on ESPN2 at the same time. Worse than Wyoming at UNLV on the same channel, right after. 

#5423
51 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Hilarious...  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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How does it overtake Texas-TAMU? It started later. 

#5424
12 minutes ago, statsman said:

 

Results are in. 176k viewers. Worse than E. Michigan at Toledo on ESPN2 at the same time. Worse than Wyoming at UNLV on the same channel, right after. 

Someone let me know if I'm missing a game but I looked at week by week ratings out of curiosity and I think there has only been 1 Big 12 matchup the entire season that did not include Texas or OU and broke 1.5MM viewers.  Oklahoma St. v Kansas St.   Do you know what was unique about that game?  It was a Friday night with absolutely zero sports competition.  The NHL hadn't started, NBA hadn't started, obviously no NFL other meaningful NCAAF games, and it was a night off for MLB playoffs (all 4 divisional series started Saturday).

 

#5425
55 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

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#5426
48 minutes ago, statsman said:

How does it overtake Texas-TAMU? It started later. 

Texas and aggy have only played 118 times.  Thus when they play for the 119th time, they have the most games in a Texas rivalry.

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#5428
Big 12 title game tiebreaker update: if multiple Big 12 teams are tied & 1 team holds wins vs. other teams in tiebreaker, then that team wins tiebreaker, source told @ActionNetworkHQ. 1st report by @BerryTramel. This may come into play w/OU, OSU, ISU & KSU all 5-2 in league play.…

 

Changing rules in middle of the season -- only the shitty B12 Conference does this. 😋

 

#5430
44 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Better than clinging to the stupid ass rule that was in place before hand.

Which is what they did in 2008. 

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#5431

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The Big 12 could be about to change its tiebreakers in the middle of the season

What's worse: leaving a poorly-written, illogical tiebreaker rule in place, or changing it with two weeks left in the season?

ZACH BARNETT       15 HOURS AGO

Here are the Big 12 standings, as of today:

Texas -- 6-1
Oklahoma State -- 5-2
Oklahoma -- 5-2
Iowa State -- 5-2
Kansas State -- 5-2

If the favorites win out over the season's final two weeks, the final standings would look like this:

Texas -- 8-1
Oklahoma State -- 7-2
Oklahoma -- 7-2
Kansas State -- 7-2

Here are two related items to the standings above:

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Since Oklahoma State owns head-to-head over both of the other tied teams, this seems easy: Oklahoma State advances to the Big 12 Championship. Right? Not necessarily.

Oklahoma and Kansas State did not play each other, which, as currently written, means Oklahoma State's head-to-head wins over OU and K-State would be thrown out as the conference moves to its next tiebreaker scenario.

Here are the Big 12 tiebreaker procedures, direct from the conference website:

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In No. 1, I believe the comma after "If not" is a typo that has somehow gone unnoticed over the years. Or maybe it's supposed to be there? But if it is, what does that even mean? Who can make sense of this?

I reached out to the Big 12 today to try to make sense of this and have yet to hear back as of this writing.

However, Sellout Crowd reported Tuesday that the conference expects to "clarify" to conference ADs its 3-way tiebreaker procedures on Wednesday. What's more, it seems the "clarification" was sparked by a conversation between a conference official and the reporter.  😂

 

I'll let the great Berry Tramel take it from here:

Last week, I corresponded with a Big 12 source to get clarification on what that tiebreaker meant.

Our exchange kept confusing me, but I eventually was told that because OU and K-State did not play each other, OSU’s sweep of the Sooners and Wildcats was nullified. OK. Seemed silly. But at least I had confirmation.

Then Monday, I was told by the Big 12 source that our Saturday night communication caused further discussion in the conference office, leading to the clarification, which is scheduled to be presented to the Big 12 athletic directors in a conference call Wednesday.

What's worse: not changing your rules to reward the team that obviously should be rewarded, or recognizing your mistake and changing your rules mid-season? 

I’m told OU was unaware there would be a “clarification” of the tiebreaker rules tomorrow. The Big 12 athletic directors met today and there was no discussion of it. They meet every Wednesday as a standing (virtual) meeting in line with CFP rankings release. #Sooners

This is the first season the Big 12 has had to deal with such a problem. As a 12-team conference from 1996-2010, the conference split into two 6-team divisions where all divisional bunk mates played each other (and that still didn't stop Big 12 rules from lifting Oklahoma over Texas in 2008, when most other conference's rules would've named Texas the South champion). From 2011 through last season, the 10-team Big 12 played a 9-game round-robin.

Life as a 14-team conference where not everyone plays each other is new to the Big 12... but it's not new to other leagues. As pointed out by Sellout Crowd, here's how the Mountain West adjudicates the exact scenario the Big 12 could face: “Winning percentage of the tied teams are compared in a mini round-robin format. If, within the mini round-robin, any of the tied teams did not play each other, the group of teams shall remain tied, unless one team defeated all other tied teams.”

The Big 12 botched its first go-round at that same problem. That is beyond dispute. You can't leave a poorly-written, illogical rule in place... but you also can't change your rules mid-season. 

The question now: In whose direction did they botch it? 

 

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#5433

 

Makes fun of terrible B12 tiebreaker rule language written by "a 9th grade English student" 😋

#5436
Just now, statsman said:

You have to wonder what Utah, CU, Arizona and ASU are thinking now. 

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You think they'd prefer to be a 6 team conference with WSU and ORST and being streamed on Apple? The tiebreaker was a serious fuckup and will be fixed. The conference survived though unlike the trainwreck that was the PAC.

#5437

I asked Iowa State OL Jarrod Hufford about Texas coming to Ames one final time before leaving for the SEC. Hufford gave a spicy answer, and then added some more heat when answering @TravisHines21 follow-up question.

 

 

#5438

I'm surprised they didn't re-write it to read "In case of a 2nd place tie, the 1st place team loses its spot in the championship game."

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#5439
2 hours ago, CTC2 said:

I asked Iowa State OL Jarrod Hufford about Texas coming to Ames one final time before leaving for the SEC. Hufford gave a spicy answer, and then added some more heat when answering @TravisHines21 follow-up question.

 

 

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#5440
4 minutes ago, statsman said:

This doesn’t open

It's being discussed in the thread about the Texas/ISU game.  TLDR one of our offensive linemen gave Texas some bulletin board material. 

#5441
1 hour ago, Deej said:

I'm surprised they didn't re-write it to read "In case of a 2nd place tie, the 1st place team loses its spot in the championship game."

Pretty clear who this clarification is targeted at. They know it’s punitive to Texas if they lose and OU as it stands.

#5442
On 11/14/2023 at 11:14 AM, ClubWhatever said:

Once you get around Waco and northward, the bluebonnets kind of thin out.  It should be called the highway construction battle.  

Battle for the orange traffic cone. 

#5443
1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It's being discussed in the thread about the Texas/ISU game.  TLDR one of our offensive linemen gave Texas some bulletin board material. 


Yeah, that probably wasn’t very bright. 

#5444
22 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:


Yeah, that probably wasn’t very bright. 

Talking shit about an opponent before a game is fucking stupid regardless of whether or not they're any good.  When they're more talented than you?  Special kind of dumb.

#5445
23 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:


Yeah, that probably wasn’t very bright. 

It shouldn’t matter. Texas needs to win for other goals than to show up some yahoo. 
 
To me, the most interesting part was when he admitted that ISU circled the Texas game along with the Iowa game. I get it- it’s their only chance to play a night game on a major channel. Targeting the Texas game has a more consistent payoff than targeting the OU game, lately. 

#5446
Just now, statsman said:

It shouldn’t matter. Texas needs to win for other goals than to show up some yahoo. 
 
To me, the most interesting part was when he admitted that ISU circled the Texas game along with the Iowa game. I get it- it’s their only chance to play a night game on a major channel. Targeting the Texas game has a more consistent payoff than targeting the OU game, lately. 

ISU's played 2 consecutive night games on ESPN, both against teams that will be in the Big 12 next year.

I get you're doing a bit, but try harder.

#5447
6 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Talking shit about an opponent before a game is fucking stupid regardless of whether or not they're any good.  When they're more talented than you?  Special kind of dumb.

Yeah. People are gonna say it doesnt mean shit and that the players should be motivated anyways. But having been a former college athlete myself, I agree with you that comments like that are so stupid because they give you that extra bit of fuel to find that extra gear and fuck the other team up. 

#5449
On 11/12/2023 at 7:52 AM, Al_4_ISU said:

The Texas team that walked into Bryant-Denny wins comfortably.  The Texas that walked into the second half in Amon Carter leaves in a body bag.

Oh yeah?

Well fuck you for being completely accurate!
 

Troll.

#5450
1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

I will be so glad to be in a conference where only maybe 3 teams consider us their super bowl and we are just another team for the other 9.

After witnessing Alabama fans do the the horns down with glee, I'm starting to think the SEC may end up being more like the Big 12 than we think. 

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