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19 hours ago, mdmost said:

Tech at Utah is getting the Big Noon time slot on 9/20. Pretty cool for the Big 12 to get that spot with Joel Klatt and Gus Johnson. Also, the game will kickoff at 10am Mountain Time. Gotta love that Big 12 TV contract!

I have to say that I was mightily impressed with the TNT production on Saturday. For an utterly meaningless game against a hapless opponent, they really went all out to showcase their presentation capabilities, and I thought it was much better than your average (or even above average) ESPN broadcast. I hope we get more of that, not just for the Big 12, but for college games in general. 

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On 9/4/2025 at 10:23 AM, Al_4_ISU said:

I think Oklahoma will secretly regret being in the SEC a decade from now too.

Interesting hot take

Big 12 crew suspended a week for fucking up Missouri Kansas game 

Referee Mike McCabe leads the crew, which also includes Kelly Deterding, Rick Ockey, Brandon Wood, Daniel Young, Matt Burks, and Dion Spenard
 
Deterding is the asshole that bumped String and then threw a flag. 

4 minutes ago, statsman said:

Big 12 crew suspended a week for fucking up Missouri Kansas game 

Referee Mike McCabe leads the crew, which also includes Kelly Deterding, Rick Ockey, Brandon Wood, Daniel Young, Matt Burks, and Dion Spenard
 
Deterding is the asshole that bumped String and then threw a flag. 

What, specifically, did they fuck up?

4 minutes ago, statsman said:

Big 12 crew suspended a week for fucking up Missouri Kansas game 

Referee Mike McCabe leads the crew, which also includes Kelly Deterding, Rick Ockey, Brandon Wood, Daniel Young, Matt Burks, and Dion Spenard
 
Deterding is the asshole that bumped String and then threw a flag. 

I had that game on, but was focused more on the other 4 I was watching. What was controversial in that game? 

“Big 12 pulls officiating crew off Week 3 assignment for rules gaffe


A Big 12 officiating crew has been reprimanded following a rules violation in Missouri's 42-31 win against Kansas on Saturday, the conference announced on Tuesday.
The play occurred in the first quarter after Missouri's first touchdown, when the Tigers were flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. Kansas blocked the extra point attempt, and the ensuing kickoff was illegal. The Big 12 officials allowed a punt to occur on a free kick in violation of Rule 2 Section 16 Article 6 of NCAA Football rules. That Big 12 officiating crew has been removed from its next scheduled assignment on Friday.
"We believe we have one of the best officiating programs in college football," Big 12 chief football & competition officer Scott Draper said in a news release. "When the Conference's high standard for officiating is not met, the Big 12 will take action."
The controversial call occurred in one of the most-played series in Division I football. The Border Showdown began in 1891 and had been on hiatus since 2011, when Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC.”

The Big 12 knew it would get 10am games when it decided to partner with Fox and expand into the mountain time zone

I still contend the B12 should have quietly let the 2015 Texas-OSU crew go after the season, so they could say to Texas, “We’re not going to criticize the officials, but we took care of this”. 
 
Instead, they opted for, “Tough shit. You’re going to put up with this, because there’s nothing you can do. Derp!”

21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The Big 12 knew it would get 10am games when it decided to partner with Fox and expand into the mountain time zone

The Big 10 will get these too 

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

The Big 10 will get these too 

Yep. Dance with Fox and the mountain/west coast, you get what you get 

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The Big 10 will get these too 

They’ll just get paid a lot more for them. 

33 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Just admit it, he owned you with his autism.

I have no idea why y’all come to the “Left Behind” thread looking for comradely positive affirmations for scrappy try-hard programs. 
 
It’s on the first page. This thread is for mockery and humiliation of a bunch of free-riders finally, thankfully divorced out of the family. 

We have denied you our approval and impart your doom upon you.

We aren't seeking your approval.

I say again, we deny you our approval...

We say again, we DGAF and just want to talk football.

You will respect my authority...

Who the fuck are you again?

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9 minutes ago, statsman said:

I have no idea why y’all come to the “Left Behind” thread looking for comradely positive affirmations for scrappy try-hard programs. 
 
It’s on the first page. This thread is for mockery and humiliation of a bunch of free-riders finally, thankfully divorced out of the family. 

Other than your weird obsession, this has long since turned into a thread about what’s happening in the Big 12.

And it’s impossible for you to let it go more than a page without you either reminding everyone that you think the Big 12 TV contract was a bribe or that the Big 12 makes less money than the SEC which absolutely everyone knows and isn’t really germane to anything.

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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The Big 10 will get these too 

That might be difficult given no Big 10 teams reside in the Mountain Time Zone. Maybe they'll try to roll out a 9am PST game for Big Noon but I highly doubt it. I guess we'll find out on 10/11 if Oregon and Indiana are both undefeated or they want Michigan at USC for that time. Doubtful as well as Ohio State-Illinois is right there for Big Noon. I did chuckle that the Michigan State fans get to watch their team play USC at 10PM EST in a few weeks. Welcome to Big 10 After Dark, MSU. 

5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

That might be difficult given no Big 10 teams reside in the Mountain Time Zone. Maybe they'll try to roll out a 9am PST game for Big Noon but I highly doubt it. I guess we'll find out on 10/11 if Oregon and Indiana are both undefeated or they want Michigan at USC for that time. Doubtful as well as Ohio State-Illinois is right there for Big Noon. I did chuckle that the Michigan State fans get to watch their team play USC at 10PM EST in a few weeks. Welcome to Big 10 After Dark, MSU. 

I think it’s actually 11 Eastern

23 minutes ago, statsman said:

I have no idea why y’all come to the “Left Behind” thread looking for comradely positive affirmations for scrappy try-hard programs. 
 
It’s on the first page. This thread is for mockery and humiliation of a bunch of free-riders finally, thankfully divorced out of the family. 

LMAO

No one gives a fuck about your approval. You are a fucking weird loser. Shut the fuck up, nerd!

15 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Other than your weird obsession, this has long since turned into a thread about what’s happening in the Big 12.

And it’s impossible for you to let it go more than a page without you either reminding everyone that you think the Big 12 TV contract was a bribe or that the Big 12 makes less money than the SEC which absolutely everyone knows and isn’t really germane to anything.

It's basically all he posts about. Such a strange person.

20 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Other than your weird obsession, this has long since turned into a thread about what’s happening in the Big 12.

 

…and what’s going on in the Big 12 is that, left to rely on its own assets, it is fading into a minor status

Other than your weird obsession, this has long since turned into a thread about what’s happening in the Big 12.
And it’s impossible for you to let it go more than a page without you either reminding everyone that you think the Big 12 TV contract was a bribe or that the Big 12 makes less money than the SEC which absolutely everyone knows and isn’t really germane to anything.

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2 hours ago, statsman said:

“Big 12 pulls officiating crew off Week 3 assignment for rules gaffe


A Big 12 officiating crew has been reprimanded following a rules violation in Missouri's 42-31 win against Kansas on Saturday, the conference announced on Tuesday.
The play occurred in the first quarter after Missouri's first touchdown, when the Tigers were flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. Kansas blocked the extra point attempt, and the ensuing kickoff was illegal. The Big 12 officials allowed a punt to occur on a free kick in violation of Rule 2 Section 16 Article 6 of NCAA Football rules. That Big 12 officiating crew has been removed from its next scheduled assignment on Friday.
"We believe we have one of the best officiating programs in college football," Big 12 chief football & competition officer Scott Draper said in a news release. "When the Conference's high standard for officiating is not met, the Big 12 will take action."
The controversial call occurred in one of the most-played series in Division I football. The Border Showdown began in 1891 and had been on hiatus since 2011, when Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC.”

Oh, NOW the BigXii is gonna step up and police officiating?

 

fuck off and die

1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Tbh I'd rather us play a morning kickoff game in Provo than a night game

Don't knock it until you've tried it. Night games in Provo are actually pretty good, except in Nov when it starts getting cold. 

2 hours ago, statsman said:

“Big 12 pulls officiating crew off Week 3 assignment for rules gaffe


A Big 12 officiating crew has been reprimanded following a rules violation in Missouri's 42-31 win against Kansas on Saturday, the conference announced on Tuesday.
The play occurred in the first quarter after Missouri's first touchdown, when the Tigers were flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. Kansas blocked the extra point attempt, and the ensuing kickoff was illegal. The Big 12 officials allowed a punt to occur on a free kick in violation of Rule 2 Section 16 Article 6 of NCAA Football rules. That Big 12 officiating crew has been removed from its next scheduled assignment on Friday.
"We believe we have one of the best officiating programs in college football," Big 12 chief football & competition officer Scott Draper said in a news release. "When the Conference's high standard for officiating is not met, the Big 12 will take action."
The controversial call occurred in one of the most-played series in Division I football. The Border Showdown began in 1891 and had been on hiatus since 2011, when Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC.”

They let them punt instead of kick-off after a TD?  What a weird thing to get wrong.

2 hours ago, statsman said:

Big 12 crew suspended a week for fucking up Missouri Kansas game 

Referee Mike McCabe leads the crew, which also includes Kelly Deterding, Rick Ockey, Brandon Wood, Daniel Young, Matt Burks, and Dion Spenard
 
Deterding is the asshole that bumped String and then threw a flag. 


String? As in in Stringer Bell?

Idris Alba in a biopic about Charlie Strong wasn’t on my bingo card for 2025!…..

But pretty solid choice if you ask me.

55 minutes ago, Crockett said:

Don't knock it until you've tried it. Night games in Provo are actually pretty good, except in Nov when it starts getting cold. 

Yeah, well, I tried a night game in 2013.  It wasn't very fun.

51 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:

"We believe we have one of the best officiating programs in college football," Big 12 chief football & competition officer Scott Draper said

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51 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:

"When the Conference's high standard for officiating is not met, the Big 12 will take action."

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Yeah, well…

Sen. Maria Cantwell warned her colleagues Wednesday that a bill heading to the House floor that would regulate college sports would solidify an unsustainable and growing gap between the nation’s biggest athletic conferences and everyone else.

In a letter to members of the Senate Commerce Committee, where Cantwell, D-Wash., is the ranking member, she references the SCORE Act, which the House is set to vote on next week. 

The NCAA and its top conferences support the bill. It would provide limited antitrust exemption for the NCAA, override state laws governing paying players in favor of one national statute and remove the possibility of athletes being considered employees of their schools.

Cantwell argued it would lock in a “distorted system” that would ultimately favor the Big Ten and Southeastern Conferences — the “Big 2,” she called them.

I don’t think any system that pays players but doesn’t classify them as employees is sustainable. The lawsuits will continue ad nauseum.

20 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I don’t think any system that pays players but doesn’t classify them as employees is sustainable. The lawsuits will continue ad nauseum.

The Sec and the B1G are not gonna get their way on this one.

This is good shit. Now KU-Mizzou and OU-oSu should do the same. Or OU-Nebraska. 

 

I've gotta say, suspending the crew for that missed kick-off / punt crap is pretty bush-league compared to the crews we dealt with in the past (OSU 2022 or 2015, e.g.)  That play did not change the outcome of the game, extend a drive, or really benefit the kicking team in ANY way.  Hell, the receiving team got a good start due to the crappy kick.  No seemingly malicious intent...

Let's start suspending crews for missed targeting, missed face masks, things that are actually critical for player safety.

18 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

I've gotta say, suspending the crew for that missed kick-off / punt crap is pretty bush-league compared to the crews we dealt with in the past (OSU 2022 or 2015, e.g.)  That play did not change the outcome of the game, extend a drive, or really benefit the kicking team in ANY way.  Hell, the receiving team got a good start due to the crappy kick.  No seemingly malicious intent...

Let's start suspending crews for missed targeting, missed face masks, things that are actually critical for player safety.

I’d love to know more about how conversations went in the B12 office, but I probably never will. I suspect, with Texas in the conference, there was a desire among the other schools to not let the big rich kid get its way all the time (along with resentment over the LHN, which they clearly saw as a thing that was taking away money that should go to them). With Texas gone, this conference of equals can focus on addressing issues of officiating quality. I imagine none of the schools have a problem with that. 

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On 9/11/2025 at 9:23 PM, 'stache said:

Purple Poopie Eaters.

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That legitimately looks like a purple turd. 

6 hours ago, statsman said:

(along with resentment over the LHN, which they clearly saw as a thing that was taking away money that should go to them)

This is such bullshit. They had no problem with the Tier 3 money Kansas basketball was keeping to themselves. Their selective outrage was ridiculous. Fuck all of them. 

This is fun. Sagarin keeps track of schools’ records against top 30 teams.  You can accumulate conference records against top 30 teams. Checking to see just how good schedules are. 
 
So far, the ACC is 3-6 playing top 30 teams. The B1G is 1-5 (we all know who the “1” is). The SEC is 7-7. The AAC is 1-3. The B12, CUSA and MAC are all 0-5. The MW is 0-6. 
 
This can be fun to track through the season. (Currently, the B12 has one team-Utah- in sagarin’s top 30). 

Just learned that BYUtv has been creating shorts about "celebrating excellence across the Big 12 and beyond": link. Most are about athletes and coaches, but there are some other ones, too. Sharing in case some of you are interested. 

For example:

 

12 minutes ago, Crockett said:

Just learned that BYUtv has been creating shorts about "celebrating excellence across the Big 12 and beyond": link. Most are about athletes and coaches, but there are some other ones, too. Sharing in case some of you are interested. 

For example:

 

Stories about OU and Boise St, but nothing about TEXAS?

W...T...F

47 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:

 

 

The TT-Oregon State game drew a little over 500K viewers on the CW. The week prior, Fresno State Oregon State drew 680k on the CW. 
 
Ha-ha-ha-ha!

We’re going to see five years of B12 games on Friday night, B12 conference games on streaming, ESPN offloading games in an attempt to get value of any sort, no B12 network (because when tier 1 and 2 content has little value, tier 3 has none),and B12 lobbying for the P4 conferences to be on one media contract. There will be craziness- B12 teams desperately chasing any chance to get into the SEC or B1G, B12 seeking any way to sex up the games. 
 
Then, reality will hit. 
 
B12: understand that your contract is as good as it is now due to the need for Texas to leave early. Y’all are welcome. 

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24 minutes ago, statsman said:

The TT-Oregon State game drew a little over 500K viewers on the CW.

The game was on Fox, it seems like you're just making this up.

7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The game was on Fox, it seems like you're just making this up.

No, that’s what AI told me. I’ll wait for another source to see if the quoted viewership was right. I should have known better. I forgot that the B12 games ESPN sold were dumped on TNT, not CW. 

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1 minute ago, statsman said:

No, that’s what AI told me.

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I think it was around 900k which is not great but also significantly affected by the 2.5 hour lightning delay.

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