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Maybe don’t jump to the woman who allegedly got choked being the unreasonable one idk

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Bassett is a partner at Minton, I'm not gonna question strategy, but that seems an odd statement to make.

Chip Lewis was UT undergrad. He hasn't had a high profile case in a while that I recall but he was in on the defense team of that rich crazy fucker (edit- Robert Durst) that hacked a guy into pieces and dumped them into Galveston Bay while living in drag in squalor.  He basically confessed while going to the bathroom when filming a TV show about the case. 

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Xavier Worthy's lawyers say he asked the complainant "multiple times" to vacate the residence and said she "destroyed a room, scratched Worthy's face and ripped out" some of his hair. They add there is photographic evidence supporting Worthy.

18 minutes ago, Helobious said:

It’s absolutely correct. Punching someone in the face may or may not result in a felony charge. Restricting their air intake in anyway is a 100% guaranteed 3rd degree felony at minimum. 

Well, if you say it, I'm assuming the opposite is true.

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Xavier Worthy's lawyers say he asked the complainant "multiple times" to vacate the residence and said she "destroyed a room, scratched Worthy's face and ripped out" some of his hair. They add there is photographic evidence supporting Worthy.

Can chocking be considered self defense in that scenario? 

12 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Xavier Worthy's lawyers say he asked the complainant "multiple times" to vacate the residence and said she "destroyed a room, scratched Worthy's face and ripped out" some of his hair. They add there is photographic evidence supporting Worthy.

None of which proves he didn’t choke her. If anything it solidifies his state of mind as being angry, as one would be if those things were happening to them. 

That message seems to establish motive and, at least tacitly, suggests he put hands on her. I'm not a lawyer but my instinct would be to clam up about this, at least for any public communications.

 

25 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Maybe don’t jump to the woman who allegedly got choked being the unreasonable one idk

Or just realize that none of us has a clue what happened. 

4 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Or just realize that none of us has a clue what happened. 

Correct, same thing

Wilco cops fucking suck. X is lucky they weren’t shooting an episode of Live PD or this would be the X Memorial thread. 

Just now, MrBig said:

 cops fucking suck. X is lucky they weren’t shooting an episode of Live PD or this would be the X Memorial thread. 

Fify

Just now, MrBig said:

Wilco cops fucking suck. X is lucky they weren’t shooting an episode of Live PD or this would be the X Memorial thread. 

Glad I live in Travis Co. Williamson sucks ass.

It's hard to imagine that charge being levied without there being marks on her neck. I'm sure both sides will have pics of damage done as evidence.

16 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

clam up about this,

That looks like an official statement from the lawyer. They are trying to get out in front of this. 

Instead of pointing out what the fiancé did to deserve it, perhaps a better defense would have been to say that they were into BDSM and she forgot to say the safe word.

20 minutes ago, Paper_jam said:

I'm not a lawyer

What?!?

Then why the fuck are you posting here?

40 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Chip Lewis was UT undergrad. He hasn't had a high profile case in a while that I recall but he was in on the defense team of that rich crazy fucker (edit- Robert Durst) that hacked a guy into pieces and dumped them into Galveston Bay while living in drag in squalor.  He basically confessed while going to the bathroom when filming a TV show about the case. 

And now you’ve Jinxed the thread…

Re: lawyer's statements -- as we well know, there are often recantations from the alleged victims of DV. Why not let this sit for a day or two before smearing the victim and making this into a "no going back scenario" where they're tied to their version of the story... unless they know for a fact it's super ugly and she 100% won't recant.

New thread title:  Surly's Rush to Judgment

Nah. I prefer “X had to choke a Bitch”.

You're not supposed to hit back unless you're unable to escape. It's going to be tough for the defense to argue the NFL combine 40 yard dash world record holder couldn't run away from the confrontation. 

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If you're at the point in a relationship where need to hire a private investigator to see if the significant other is cheating on you, you're likely just wasting money on a private investigator instead of just moving on.

3 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

You're not supposed to hit back unless you're unable to escape. It's going to be tough for the defense to argue the NFL combine 40 yard dash world record holder couldn't run away from the confrontation. 

Well she is a track star.  So she might be able to keep pace over a long distance 

28 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Wilco cops fucking suck. X is lucky they weren’t shooting an episode of Live PD or this would be the X Memorial thread. 

 

he'd be dead 

6 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

Well she is a track star.  So she might be able to keep pace over a long distance 

If a UT football player is going to be with a track star, I hope she’s more like Sanya Richards-Ross. 

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On 2/19/2025 at 10:46 PM, Derka said:

i wonder how many people are going to see this thread bumped and immediately worry that Xavier has been jerking off on massage tables or driving 120 mph through dallas. 🤔 the offseason, amirite?

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Jeez the speed at which some people on Surly pronounce the guy guilty and bang the gavel is disturbing. I hope every one of you gets violated by a Williamson County deputy.

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't know, it feels like public litigation.  I have zero doubt they were sloppy, so my head-tilt is worth nothing.

These situations always involve public litigation, makes sense to get out there first with your given narrative

1 hour ago, ATXbronco said:

She's a US track & field star

Sucks for both of them that it's going this bad, this soon.  Or at all.

 

 

Damn, their kid was supposed to challenge Bolt’s record

3 hours ago, D3zii said:

Smh I’d like to hear the details first, because it could be anything, 

damn I hate this for him though 

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

never never call the police for domestic dispute 

Fuck that.  When your GF/Fiance starts acting a fool, tearing up shit, attacking you, call the cops. That macho shit will end up with you getting arrested. 

51 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

You're not supposed to hit back unless you're unable to escape. It's going to be tough for the defense to argue the NFL combine 40 yard dash world record holder couldn't run away from the confrontation. 

Nonsense.  If a woman is assaulting a man, the man is allowed to defend himself.

Now, a man should never, ever put his hands on a woman unless he absolutely has to.  And he almost never does.  

But the idea that "a man can't hit a woman" is wrong.  If she's hitting you, wrap her up and try to calm her down.  From there, if she bites you or tries to knee the groin, you are well within your legal rights to knock her out.  Being able to run away has nothing to do with anything.  

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That said, you're still going to have a very difficult time in court, probably, so make sure your woman goes apeshit in front of several impartial witnesses whenever possible.

Responsible adults don't find themselves in situations where they are accused of choking their girlfriend (kinks notwithstanding).  I'm not pronouncing him guilty, but he's a fucking idiot either way.  

55 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

If you're at the point in a relationship where need to hire a private investigator to see if the significant other is cheating on you, you're likely just wasting money on a private investigator instead of just moving on.

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15 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Fuck that.  When your GF/Fiance starts acting a fool, tearing up shit, attacking you, call the cops. That macho shit will end up with you getting arrested. 

 

you lock her out of the house a loooooong fucking time ago. bitch has to leave sooner or later. let her show up, go crazy at the door THEN you call the cops. You're inside and separated and she can't claim that you just punched her.

 

4 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

When she's going off and saying all kinds of noise it's best to walk away. No matter how much you want her to shut up you can't throttle her. 

 

He’d make a good basketball coach at ol Miss 

If the fiancé calls the police and tells them X choked her, he is getting arrested regardless of what happened. We don’t know shit until or if more evidence is released. 
 

*and right or wrong, he is guilty in public until proven otherwise 

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  Breaking on ESPN: Worthy to the Dolphins. 
Following the Tyreek Hill career path. 

6 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

If the fiancé calls the police and tells them X choked her, he is getting arrested regardless of what happened. 

 

100% of the time. if the guy is smart he just shuts his mouth and plays along, goes to jail vs arguing / resisting 

emotions are high, you're screwed

 

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12 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Responsible adults don't find themselves in situations where they are accused of choking their girlfriend (kinks notwithstanding).  I'm not pronouncing him guilty, but he's a fucking idiot either way.  

Counterpoint: Responsible adults do a bunch of dumb shit.

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

you lock her out of the house a loooooong fucking time ago. bitch has to leave sooner or later. let her show up, go crazy at the door THEN you call the cops. You're inside and separated and she can't claim that you just punched her.

 

Retroactive advice like that wouldn’t help him in the moment. Once yall are both in the house and in that moment, lock yourself in a room like a bathroom and make the call.

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

100% of the time. if the guy is smart he just shuts his mouth and plays along, goes to jail vs arguing / resisting 

 

That's not how it works in Texas. DV means someone goes. If they let him walk away, great, but he doesn't get to stay.

Can't turn a hoe into a housewife. 

On a more serious note, hopefully he is cleared of any wrongdoing before losing his opportunity in KC.

1 hour ago, perfectchaos007 said:

You're not supposed to hit back unless you're unable to escape. It's going to be tough for the defense to argue the NFL combine 40 yard dash world record holder couldn't run away from the confrontation. 

But we know he gets knocked off his routes so maybe she reasonably didn’t let him get off the line.

7 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Can't turn a hoe into a housewife. 

On a more serious note, hopefully he is cleared of any wrongdoing before losing his opportunity in KC.

Lulz. Chiefs couldn’t give 2 fucks. This is small potatoes for that shit show organization. 

How many times has Travis Kelce restricted Tay Tay’s ability to breathe? Ain’t nobody calling Andy Reid about that.

3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Bassett is a partner at Minton, I'm not gonna question strategy, but that seems an odd statement to make.

I dunno.  Outright denials are pretty worthless and common among the guilty.

Giving some kind of explanation that won't be contradicted directly by developing facts is probably worthwhile.

Let these fester too long when you do have something to say and you're in Beard territory.

4 hours ago, D3zii said:

Smh I’d like to hear the details first, because it could be anything, 

damn I hate this for him though 

Oh, sure, it could simply be an episode of overzealous tickling!

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