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    Several times Bert Auburn's choking impeded my breathing.

  • First - I commented in the AFC title game thread that if any former Horn was perfectly suited to play for a team with massive media distractions and hate and a target on their back every week then it'

  • Nah, this isn’t the attitude anymore. If this were 2012 and these guys were still getting barely paid, then sure. I’d pump the amateurism, bled for the university sunshine all day. But this is the new

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this is why I dont jump to conclusions. If the Williamson County DA ain't doing nothing, he probably didn't do anything.

The DA wants to be able to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Need solid evidence. Need reliable witnesses.

In domestic abuse cases, the witnesses often have conflicting feelings, regret, or a financial incentive to clam up. Or, they dont want to be homeless or have their kids go through shit. Or, they are scared. It’s why some jurisdictions prosecute even if the victim doesn’t want to press charges.

Whether or not charges are dropped, it doesnt mean he didnt do the crime. It just means the case to convict him beyond all doubt was not solid.

We don’t know shit. And now it’s none of our business.
2 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


The DA wants to be able to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Need solid evidence. Need reliable witnesses.

In domestic abuse cases, the witnesses often have conflicting feelings, regret, or a financial incentive to clam up. Or, they dont want to be homeless or have their kids go through shit. Or, they are scared. It’s why some jurisdictions prosecute even if the victim doesn’t want to press charges.

Whether or not charges are dropped, it doesnt mean he didnt do the crime. It just means the case to convict him beyond all doubt was not solid.

We don’t know shit. And now it’s none of our business.

I see that side of it, and it makes sense. That's why I said he probably didn't do anything. But if he were choking her, she'd most likely have marks on her neck. So, who knows? it is none of our business like you said.

2 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

We don’t know shit. And it’s none of our business.

I think we finally have the Surly Horns brand tagline!!!

32 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:


I’m really not. And I don’t think I’d fit into his “posse”. I’m white, closer to 40 than 30, and have nothing to offer that would benefit him unless he finds himself shot, stabbed, or on fire.

I do, however, possess enough life experience to reserve comment/judgment on a topic of this nature until further information is available. And I believe in mocking and belittling those that jump to conclusions.

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53 minutes ago, D3zii said:

It’s crazy that ppl on here act like women don’t fucking lie. And he was automatically guilty. 

The venn diagram of guys who do this kind of thing and the guys who attract women who would lie about this sort of thing has a LOT of overlap.

3 hours ago, mr. sunshine said:

Years ago when the legislature classified theft of precious metals as a felony as opposed to theft of regular old metals, which was usually a misdemeanor, deputies and city cops became amateur metalurgists. If they could file a case as the former rather than the latter they almost always did.

I noticed when they made assault by choking a felony as opposed to assault, which is usually a misdemeanor, a shitload of cases were filed as assault by choking. Even in some cases I either prosecuted or defended in which there was no evidence of it and the alleged victim specifically told the officer(s) that she/he wasn't choked.

Like y'all I don't know the merits of this particular charge. Just saying after 34 years of doing this I've noticed some trends

 

I think Wayne Brady is to blame for popularizing the move

I hope he learned his lesson to not get romantically involved with anyone during his career. Instead focus on your career and slay as many pussy as you can buy. 

2 hours ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

I see that side of it, and it makes sense. That's why I said he probably didn't do anything. But if he were choking her, she'd most likely have marks on her neck. So, who knows? it is none of our business like you said.

I choke my wife a couple times a week and don’t leave marks

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16 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I choke my wife a couple times a week and don’t leave marks

Anime pillows don't have the same physiology. Apples and oranges. 

12 hours ago, Hondo said:

Sad thing is DV is rightfully a career killer for many, but these sportsball idiots continue to earn generational wealth in the face of DV, sexual assault, and other felonies.

I guess we get what we incentivize and prioritize.  

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11 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

Everyone is sober this morning. Whatever the story was last night, it’s different this morning. You can be sure. 

Don’t do this. We have no idea what happened. 

True.

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bro hired a PI and caught her ass cheating so he kicked her out and she lied her ass off. She should be prosecuted.

Source?

2 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Anime pillows don't have the same physiology. Apples and oranges. 

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27 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Source?

his sock puppet

I bet you 10 bucks things got rough. Ol girl kept saying TRE! TRE! and Xavier kept going because the “safeword” was actually Quintrevion 

7 hours ago, freyguy said:

his sock puppet

…because that cunt waffle runs out of shit to pull out of his ass each week by Noon on Tuesday 

Xavier can now continue taking people’s breath away with his blazing fast speed!
 

X, Remember one thing, there is a quote from the great poet laureate Ye  “Now I ain’t sayin’ she a gold digger. But she ain’t messing with no broke n-words”

13 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

I think we finally have the Surly Horns brand tagline!!!

I would change it slightly but it would be too long.

We dont know shit! Its none of our business, but we aim to make it so.

30 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

…because that cunt waffle runs out of shit to pull out of his ass each week by Noon on Tuesday 

Twat waffle > cunt waffle….….…

…….evolution in front of our eyes.

11 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

I choke my wife a couple times a week and don’t leave marks

 

for the logophiles and philomaths - palatal petechiae

He cut all his hair off, so the break up part is confirmed to be real.

19 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

If the fiancé calls the police and tells them X choked her, he is getting arrested regardless of what happened. We don’t know shit until or if more evidence is released. 
 

*and right or wrong, he is guilty in public until proven otherwise 

💯 and this appears (at this time with the information we have) to be what happened as they’ve announced he won’t be charged.

14 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


The DA wants to be able to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Need solid evidence. Need reliable witnesses.

In domestic abuse cases, the witnesses often have conflicting feelings, regret, or a financial incentive to clam up. Or, they dont want to be homeless or have their kids go through shit. Or, they are scared. It’s why some jurisdictions prosecute even if the victim doesn’t want to press charges.

Whether or not charges are dropped, it doesnt mean he didnt do the crime. It just means the case to convict him beyond all doubt was not solid.

We don’t know shit. And now it’s none of our business.

This is all true. On the opposite side, women have fabricated domestic violence issues in the past given some slight, usually infidelity but there are other reasons. 

As I understand it, the mandatory prosecution is usually tied to prior issues with the same couple. In that case it makes a LOT more sense, imo, as abusers are, more often than not, habitual offenders. The mandatory prosecution is as much a protection for police force resources as they are a protection for the women. Police keep going out to the same place time and time again. Female, despite all evidence never presses charges. It's a frustrating (for police) tax on public service and those are often extremely volatile situations. Not to mention, they often escalate in to more serious offenses including homicide.

So, we don't know shit. Was this a woman who opted not to press charges due to various reasons post, did she even claim she was choked, did the police trump up the charge, did the woman falsely claim abuse to get back at the man for a completely different reason?

We don't. What we do know is offenders are usually habitual. It will raise its ugly head again if that's the reality.

Anything else, is just pure conjecture without further supporting evidence. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Anything else, is just pure conjecture without further supporting evidence. 

I am very happy with my initial take, which is that WR are disproportionately moronic. I think every possible scenario confirms this presumption.

4 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

This is all true. On the opposite side, women have fabricated domestic violence issues in the past given some slight, usually infinitely but there are other reasons. 

As I understand it, the mandatory prosecution is usually tied to prior issues with the same couple. In that case it makes a LOT more sense, imo, as abusers are, more often than not, habitual offenders. The mandatory prosecution is as much a protection for police force resources as they are a protection for the women. Police keep going out to the same place time and time again. Female, despite all evidence never presses charges. It's a frustrating (for police) tax on public service and those are often extremely volatile situations. Not to mention, they often escalate in to more serious offenses including homicide.

So, we don't know shit. Was this a woman who opted not to press charges due to various reasons post, did she even claim she was choked, did the police trump up the charge, did the woman falsely claim abuse to get back at the man for a completely different reason?

We don't. What we do know is offenders are usually habitual. It will raise its ugly head again if that's the reality.

Anything else, is just pure conjecture without further supporting evidence. 

Williamson County District Attorney Shawn Dick told the Statesman that his office declined to charge Worthy after speaking with multiple witnesses but said he will "continue to evaluate the case."

"After further investigation by the Williamson County Sheriff's Office and further discussion with a third-party witness, Mr. Worthy and his attorneys, this case is being declined at this time pending completion of the investigation by the Williamson County Sheriff's Office," Dick told the Statesman. "Mr. Worthy and his lawyers are fully cooperating with this investigation."
 

 

3rd party witness probably backed X’s version of events so far. 

14 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

I think we finally have the Surly Horns brand tagline!!!


Seems like "We don't know shit, but all of it is our business" is actually more in line with Surly reality.

35 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Williamson County District Attorney Shawn Dick told the Statesman that his office declined to charge Worthy after speaking with multiple witnesses but said he will "continue to evaluate the case."

"After further investigation by the Williamson County Sheriff's Office and further discussion with a third-party witness, Mr. Worthy and his attorneys, this case is being declined at this time pending completion of the investigation by the Williamson County Sheriff's Office," Dick told the Statesman. "Mr. Worthy and his lawyers are fully cooperating with this investigation."
 

 

3rd party witness probably backed X’s version of events so far. 

Yeah, which still leaves a few items in question. First, eye witness testimony is shit, always has been, always will be. Second, is a neutral 3rd party, one of X's good friends, a friend of both parties. 

However, when you combine the dropped charges AND eye witness testimony it looks stronger for X. There remains the question, to my knowledge, of where the strangulation aspects came into the case. Was the former accuser the one who brought it into the fold or the police? That's a huge variance and I dont recall seeing the answer.

So... evidence appears on the surface to lean in X's favor, but there is still less we dont know that do.

Chick will probably be partying up in the VIP box with Taylor Swift.

50 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Yeah, which still leaves a few items in question. First, eye witness testimony is shit, always has been, always will be. Second, is a neutral 3rd party, one of X's good friends, a friend of both parties. 

However, when you combine the dropped charges AND eye witness testimony it looks stronger for X. There remains the question, to my knowledge, of where the strangulation aspects came into the case. Was the former accuser the one who brought it into the fold or the police? That's a huge variance and I dont recall seeing the answer.

So... evidence appears on the surface to lean in X's favor, but there is still less we dont know that do.

What the fuck are these reasonable takes?

Just now, Scholz said:

What the fuck are these reasonable takes?

Im a Telsa driving, Aggie article writing sock incel of gun toting and non-US family origins. Clearly, I know fuck all and can't ever be reasonable nor reasoned with in internet discourse! 

Now get off my fucking lawn before I shoot you for touching my Cybertruck and invading my safe space!

1 hour ago, DougO said:

Chick will probably be partying up in the VIP box with Taylor Swift.

Not at this point

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Im a Telsa driving, Aggie article writing sock incel of gun toting and non-US family origins. Clearly, I know fuck all and can't ever be reasonable nor reasoned with in internet discourse! 

Now get off my fucking lawn before I shoot you for touching my Cybertruck and invading my safe space!

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On 3/6/2025 at 9:03 PM, Armybrat said:

I got this T-shirt for working the 1964 Texas Relays as a student volunteer.

 

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*Circa 1964, colorized 

Good. Hopefully it's a wake-up call for him. He doesn't need to add his name to the laundry list of NFL WR's that wasted obscene talent.

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