September 30, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, mchookem said: is this a comic book movie or horror? Yes. 8 hours ago, Buzzrock said: Looks like The Golden Child II No. No, no, no, no, no. Sandman is a comic of horror ... and also myth. Where the devil plays piano in a nightclub, leaving Hell to be run by angels. (Yes, that TV series Lucifer is a Sandman spinoff.) Where Death is a goth chick, Desire is androgynous (literally), and a baby will become Dream... but Dream must first die at the hands of the Furies (Erinyes), first. Where the power of Dreams becomes a drug, a way to mass murder, a place to hide from the world and live out one's fantasy marriage, and an immortal entity who finds his humanity through a human who found immortality. ("Death's a fool's game. Just don't die," he brags drunkenly, but does so within earshot of Death and Dream, who just happen to be in the same pub at the time. "It might be interesting?" Dream says to Death. "Sure, why not? Death responds." And so Dream will meet the man once a century in that pub from then on...) Edited September 30, 20214 yr by Rimbo
October 4, 20214 yr I can't wait for this. Really hope it doesn't suck. Gaiman being involved makes me think it won't.
June 6, 20223 yr On 10/4/2021 at 7:52 AM, Fud said: I can't wait for this. Really hope it doesn't suck. Gaiman being involved makes me think it won't. Here's the trailer for the August release
August 4, 20223 yr Drops tomorrow--Friday, August 5th. Think I heard 8 pm and can't remember if it's the full season drops or first few episodes. Marc Maron interviews Neil Gaiman on WTF.
August 4, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Mdhorn said: Drops tomorrow--Friday, August 5th. Think I heard 8 pm and can't remember if it's the full season drops or first few episodes. Marc Maron interviews Neil Gaiman on WTF. Netflix doesn’t drop anything that late and is all at once
August 4, 20223 yr On 9/30/2021 at 3:11 AM, Rimbo said: Sandman is a comic of horror ... and also myth. Where the devil plays piano in a nightclub, leaving Hell to be run by angels. (Yes, that TV series Lucifer is a Sandman spinoff.) Where Death is a goth chick, Desire is androgynous (literally), and a baby will become Dream... but Dream must first die at the hands of the Furies (Erinyes), first. Where the power of Dreams becomes a drug, a way to mass murder, a place to hide from the world and live out one's fantasy marriage, and an immortal entity who finds his humanity through a human who found immortality. ("Death's a fool's game. Just don't die," he brags drunkenly, but does so within earshot of Death and Dream, who just happen to be in the same pub at the time. "It might be interesting?" Dream says to Death. "Sure, why not? Death responds." And so Dream will meet the man once a century in that pub from then on...) I kid. I just find Gaiman to be insufferable as a person.
August 6, 20223 yr I’m 6 in and really liking it Spoiler 1-4 were quite good 5 was weird in the middle 6 was beautiful
August 6, 20223 yr The woke casting is fucking stupid and annoying. Why do you need to replace an old white male character with a young female black chick? And STFU if you're one of progressive leftists who think they own this site, because I'm sure all of you would be just fine with casting Zendaya as Alfred in the next Batman reboot.
August 6, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, rage-a-holic said: The woke casting is fucking stupid and annoying. Why do you need to replace an old white male character with a young female black chick? And STFU if you're one of progressive leftists who think they own this site, because I'm sure all of you would be just fine with casting Zendaya as Alfred in the next Batman reboot. Go to bed, grandpa.
August 6, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Js1 said: Go to bed, grandpa. It’s like “tell us you’ve never read much of Neil Gaiman, without telling us!”
August 7, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Js1 said: I enjoyed that a lot Same, halfway through. Only real casting misfire is Patton Oswald. They need to fix the color grading/whatever. Too dark.
August 7, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, rage-a-holic said: The woke casting is fucking stupid and annoying. Why do you need to replace an old white male character with a young female black chick? And STFU if you're one of progressive leftists who think they own this site, because I'm sure all of you would be just fine with casting Zendaya as Alfred in the next Batman reboot. The original graphic novel had a transgender character. It also portrayed Desire as genderless. In one volume, Dream manifests as a black man who falls in love with a woman in ancient times. Characters appearances change all the time in the comics depending on the time period and location. The person who wrote the graphic novel was also one of the show runners. Also, one character was changed to a female because Netflix didn't have the rights to John Constantine. There is nothing at all to be angry about. Edited August 7, 20223 yr by fellside
August 9, 20223 yr Halfway through the season. Really hoping this gets renewed because I'm enjoying seeing it come to life, and the best Sandman stories are in the later volumes.
August 9, 20223 yr Never read the comics but I’m def intrigued and motivated to continue after 1 ep. Interesting world and moody so far. Edited August 9, 20223 yr by YChang
August 9, 20223 yr Just finished it. I enjoyed it. Among other things I am intrigued with "the Prodigal" that have been mentioned a few times. I guess setting it up for next season
August 9, 20223 yr On 8/5/2022 at 11:36 PM, rage-a-holic said: The woke casting is fucking stupid and annoying. Why do you need to replace an old white male character with a young female black chick? And STFU if you're one of progressive leftists who think they own this site, because I'm sure all of you would be just fine with casting Zendaya as Alfred in the next Batman reboot. Username checks out.
August 9, 20223 yr I know nothing about the graphic novel, but watched the first two episodes last night and really liked it. I reckon I'll finish it. Casting seems fine to me.
August 10, 20223 yr On 8/7/2022 at 12:00 AM, fellside said: The original graphic novel had a transgender character. It also portrayed Desire as genderless. In one volume, Dream manifests as a black man who falls in love with a woman in ancient times. Characters appearances change all the time in the comics depending on the time period and location. The person who wrote the graphic novel was also one of the show runners. Also, one character was changed to a female because Netflix didn't have the rights to John Constantine. There is nothing at all to be angry about. You seem deliberately obtuse. Nothing you listed above has any bearing on my original comments. I never mentioned transgender characters, just Lucienne being an old white man, but now a young black female. He was never transgender. Or black. Like casting Zendaya as Batmans Alfred. Jarring and makes zero sense. Death is a pale, goth white girl, who has also now been swapped for a black chick. Death was not race/gender fluid in the books. All of this shit is basic race/gender politics and virtue signaling ruining good stories (WoT, too many recent films to list).
August 10, 20223 yr How is an alteration in race/gender from the fictional story in a comic book, ruining the fictional story of a television show? Seems like a stretch from someone that just wants to be angry and bitter about something.
August 10, 20223 yr Just now, YChang said: Yeah what’s more messed up is Dr. Sharon driving around professor Lupin! THAT WAS HER!! I wondered why she looked so familiar
August 10, 20223 yr 36 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said: You seem deliberately obtuse. Nothing you listed above has any bearing on my original comments. I never mentioned transgender characters, just Lucienne being an old white man, but now a young black female. He was never transgender. Or black. Like casting Zendaya as Batmans Alfred. Jarring and makes zero sense. Death is a pale, goth white girl, who has also now been swapped for a black chick. Death was not race/gender fluid in the books. All of this shit is basic race/gender politics and virtue signaling ruining good stories (WoT, too many recent films to list). The show is pretty damn faithful to the comics. Some scenes are word for word. Episode 6 in particular was one of the best adaptations I've seen. Sorry you don't like black people man.
August 11, 20223 yr 22 hours ago, fellside said: The show is pretty damn faithful to the comics. Some scenes are word for word. Episode 6 in particular was one of the best adaptations I've seen. Sorry you don't like black people man.
August 11, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, fellside said: The show is pretty damn faithful to the comics. Some scenes are word for word. Episode 6 in particular was one of the best adaptations I've seen. Sorry you don't like black people man. I would be pissed if the original characters were replaced with Inuit, Hmong or Mayan actors. Political/race/gender based casting will always be stupid and unnecessary.
August 11, 20223 yr It’s a weird hill to die on. Like my neighbors complaining that the traveling Beauty and the Beast show cast Belle as a black woman. I told that woman “I’m sorry you care so much about race of a fairy tale princess. You’re literally like ‘In this house Belle is a white!’” You and she sound the same. Like Megan Kelly telling me Jesus or Santa is supposed to be white
August 13, 20223 yr Trying not to read anything above this as I'm only halfway through, but this series is awesome. And, I'm not even a graphic novel fan.
August 13, 20223 yr On 8/10/2022 at 11:24 PM, Pig Bellmont said: Btw- great show. I just saw the episode with Death and really liked it That one was pretty rough. Unfamiliar with the source material, but I don’t see how changing death’s or lucienne’s race/gender has any bearing on the story, nor why it would be sacrosanct. i rather liked the idea of death as a gentle, comforting new friend that helps transition you to the next thing. That’s the important change to the traditional anthropomorphized visage of death.
August 13, 20223 yr 38 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said: That one was pretty rough. Unfamiliar with the source material, but I don’t see how changing death’s or lucienne’s race/gender has any bearing on the story, nor why it would be sacrosanct. i rather liked the idea of death as a gentle, comforting new friend that helps transition you to the next thing. That’s the important change to the traditional anthropomorphized visage of death. This version of Death was so good. Like they had a friend in the end. Even the baby (boy that scene made it a little dusty)
August 14, 20223 yr Just finished. Absolutely fucking loved it. Was a little hesitant about they change with death at first, but it ended up working perfectly. Amazing actress. Acting, editing, camera work are all great. Might be the most “well done” Netflix show to date. hope to god they get to finish the series.
August 14, 20223 yr 22 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said: rather liked the idea of death as a gentle, comforting new friend that helps transition you to the next thing. That’s the important change to the traditional anthropomorphized visage of death. 21 hours ago, Js1 said: This version of Death was so good. Like they had a friend in the end. Even the baby (boy that scene made it a little dusty) This. And Gaiman was very involved with this aspect/adaption apparently. I’ve seen him raving about the series going back a few months, but it’s not just hype. Can see why he was pleased.
August 19, 20223 yr Surprise! Quote Netflix’s hit fantasy series “The Sandman” hasn’t been renewed just yet, but if you want more from the adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s beloved comic book series, your dreams (sorry) just came true. Right now you can watch “A Dream of A Thousand Cats / Calliope,” a brand new. surprise bonus episode of “The Sandman,” featuring guest stars Sandra Oh, Michael Shannon, James McAvoy, David Tennant, the great Derek Jacobi, and many more.
August 19, 20223 yr On 8/13/2022 at 11:05 AM, Js1 said: This version of Death was so good. Like they had a friend in the end. Even the baby (boy that scene made it a little dusty) I was a actually a little surprised because I really like the actress but wasn’t as moved as I expected to be; that particular story (including the part about Hob Gadling) is the one I recall best from reading the graphic novels 15 years ago. In the book she feels like such a breath of fresh air in part because Dream is at turns remote or an asshole. As long as we’re commenting on race/gender changes from the source material, this is probably a really good property for updates because those changes shouldn’t be carrying the baggage they might elsewhere (I.e., these entities should be capable of being reimagined as anything). Dream I presume is the least mutable because he’s Gaiman’s avatar.
August 20, 20223 yr The extra episode was fantastic. I was wondering how they would do the third book since it's just a collection of disparate fables, and doing a bonus episode is a smart way to do a couple of them. Also it seemed like the most frame-for-frame copy of the comics other than episode 6.
August 20, 20223 yr I bet Rage would have been fine with the changes had they made them all young Latinas that can get lost walking around the block...so you know, hot.
August 21, 20223 yr Bonus was fun. On 8/19/2022 at 11:14 PM, fellside said: The extra episode was fantastic. I was wondering how they would do the third book since it's just a collection of disparate fables, and doing a bonus episode is a smart way to do a couple of them. Also it seemed like the most frame-for-frame copy of the comics other than episode 6. This
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