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21 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Charlottesville happened just last year.

Dylan Klebold happened a few years ago.

There are plenty of other examples of white racial violence in this country. It's a problem.

 

and yet you listed two in the last few years...

charlottesville was tragic and bigots are awful but nothing at all would’ve happened it they were just allowed their constitutional right to protest and ignored.  which was pretty much the standard for the past few decades until the radical left started all jerking each other off to the idea of a common enemy.  it gives power to the opposing side and makes shit worse for everyone.  if the media didn’t sensationalize white supremacist “activity” and the left wasn’t so goddamn fragile and hyper-reactionary we’d all see how flaccid the supposed “threat” of white racist wingnuts actually is.  of course you’ll disagree and say that there is no other solution than all-out war.  but then you’re a fragile hyper-reactive leftist wingnut.  

Ah yes, it’s that damned radical left causing all the problems. The very fine people wanting the expulsion and death of minority’s are just exercising their rights. 

You should educate yourself as to what the fine people of right wing militias and white nationalists want to do to this country. If only those damn leftists would leave them be!

3 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Ah yes, it’s that damned radical left causing all the problems. The very fine people wanting the expulsion and death of minority’s are just exercising their rights. 

You should educate yourself as to what the fine people of right wing militias and white nationalists want to do to this country. If only those damn leftists would leave them be!

this is ludicrous. 

42 minutes ago, futureman said:

this is ludicrous. 

Um ok. This will be my late post on this thread since it’s alreasy become very cloaky. Again, you should educate yourself about these groups and how they are feeling emboldened by who is running this country. Or you can just go on believing it’s those damn lefties stirring up trouble. 

This is a compelling article on how Spike Lee is trying to bring about change or challenge conventions, even in his own field.  I've never seen it, but I understand 'The Birth of a Nation' is considered extremely influential in the technicalities of film and how it went about storytelling.  It sold millions of tickets throughout the years and even as it was exposed for the racist propaganda it is, it still is held up as a seminal piece of art in some places, including..... film schools throughout the nation. 

Lee, for obvious reasons considers the film despicable and has had a decades long issue with the way it's treated amongst much of the film establishment.... Part of what's going on within the movie, is Lee doing what he can to remind audiences and his contemporaries that the message and intent of the story matters and should be paramount to it's inclusion of films that are used to inform and influence young filmmakers today.  He's making fun of his own industry and the ridiculous hypocrisies that still lie within the film education associations.  There's a personal story within a story at play in the film.  A parody within a parody....

http://screencrush.com/blackkklansman-birth-of-a-nation-griffith/

 

 

19 hours ago, futureman said:

and yet you listed two in the last few years...

charlottesville was tragic and bigots are awful but nothing at all would’ve happened it they were just allowed their constitutional right to protest and ignored.  which was pretty much the standard for the past few decades until the radical left started all jerking each other off to the idea of a common enemy.  it gives power to the opposing side and makes shit worse for everyone.  if the media didn’t sensationalize white supremacist “activity” and the left wasn’t so goddamn fragile and hyper-reactionary we’d all see how flaccid the supposed “threat” of white racist wingnuts actually is.  of course you’ll disagree and say that there is no other solution than all-out war.  but then you’re a fragile hyper-reactive leftist wingnut.  

Ignoring them is what led to people like Miller and Bannon and Sessions all being in Trump's white house with serious influence. Think this argument through a little bit better. Then we can take it to CR.

futureman, you really need to educate yourself. This cannot be said enough. 

3 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

futureman, you really need to educate yourself. This cannot be said enough. 

I got a good christian raisin’ and an 8th grade education.  ain’t no need’n y’all treatin me this way.  

On 8/13/2018 at 3:28 PM, futureman said:

and yet you listed two in the last few years...

charlottesville was tragic and bigots are awful but nothing at all would’ve happened it they were just allowed their constitutional right to protest and ignored.  which was pretty much the standard for the past few decades until the radical left started all jerking each other off to the idea of a common enemy.  it gives power to the opposing side and makes shit worse for everyone.  if the media didn’t sensationalize white supremacist “activity” and the left wasn’t so goddamn fragile and hyper-reactionary we’d all see how flaccid the supposed “threat” of white racist wingnuts actually is.  of course you’ll disagree and say that there is no other solution than all-out war.  but then you’re a fragile hyper-reactive leftist wingnut.  

I hope for you’re sake you’re just trolling. Because otherwise you’re a completely irredeemable moron.

27 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I hope for you’re sake you’re just trolling. Because otherwise you’re a completely irredeemable moron.

I admire your passion. 

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

I hope for you’re sake you’re just trolling. Because otherwise you’re a completely irredeemable moron.

Hey JimmyJames, eat a dick. 

On 8/12/2018 at 10:30 PM, mdleast said:

Saw it today and thought it was pretty great. Entertaining, funny and thought provoking throughout. The entertaining/funny throughout the film makes that very end of the film an especially hard punch in the gut but that’s the whole point.

Spot on. We saw it last night and it’s fantastic. Just ordered Stallworth’s book. 

i thought it was one of the best films of 2018. i was surprised by how much i enjoyed it. it has been a long time since i enjoyed a spike lee film. 

1 hour ago, Longhorn94 said:

i thought it was one of the best films of 2018. i was surprised by how much i enjoyed it. it has been a long time since i enjoyed a spike lee film. 

So far it’s my favorite. Been recommending it to everyone. Needs to be seen. 

Finally saw this today.  Spike went hard to the paint and finished (literally) with some mother fucking authority.  Excellent commentary on the history of racism in America.

I loved the role of the women.  Too often, when we talk about racism and racists, the women who are their wives get a pass.  Not here.

As a previous poster mentioned, John David Washington sounds JUST like Denzel.  Doesn't look much like him but if you close your eyes, you think it's the same person.

The movie was somewhat entertaining, but I'd wouldn't call it the best movie of the year. A lot of it seemed overly contrived and anachronistic like the timing of the events didn't really go together.

  • 2 months later...
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Watched on HBO because it’s leaving soon. Very timely. And have the opposite reaction of Evil Case McCoy. 
 

Also going through this thread for the first time and futureman seems like he sucks. Not that his posts were defensible in 2028, but they have really not aged well. 

Agreed.  I liked the movie, but Futureman and 2028 are both going to suck.

14 minutes ago, Tom said:

Agreed.  I liked the movie, but Futureman and 2028 are both going to suck.

2018, 2028, whatever it takes 

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