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Michigan has a better overall DL than us. UW exposed our edge play and we really had no answer for it. They also have a guy in Will Johnson who can allow them to play more leveraged coverages.
Jake Majors is good for one illegal snap a game. For a guy with his experience, it makes no sense for him to keep making the same mistakes. Christian Jones was overmatched against Trice and ZTF. They picked on the middle to right side of the line with the games and pressures. 
Experience plays a role in presnap penalties too. The bigger the moment gets, people begin to fold more. Sorrell lined up in the neutral zone and still jumped offsides.
Guys were too tight and felt the magnitude of the moment too much. It happens. The experience is invaluable though, for both the players and the coaches.

Yeah. I felt it last night and reflecting this morning I definitely think the moment was just a little too much for Texas, both staff and players.

Many eventually great teams/programs come up short in these kind of situations before ultimately getting to the top. The hope is that this ends up being a building block.
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I think most everyone agrees that the team exceeded expectations for the season.  Nevertheless, it was hard to see the team outplayed really for the first time this season. 

Disappointed but not even mad.  Find some dudes in the portal to jam up the D line and grab about 45 corners and safeties just to be safe. 

1 hour ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

Amazing job this season, and the trajectory of the program is without a doubt pointing up.

As for last night, I don’t attribute the loss to some glaring coaching failure. Sure there were questionable decisions, but Washington was built to exploit our one weakness and they absolutely balled out. Hat tip, and get ready for next season.


Problem is their coaching staff exploited our weaknesses and even add wrinkles to their playbook to attack us with QB runs when they never run with Penix.  And when we saw an advantage in our run game we immediately went back to passing it nonstop. 

1 minute ago, GTJ1982 said:


Problem is their coaching staff exploited our weaknesses and even add wrinkles to their playbook to attack us with QB runs when they never run with Penix.  And when we saw an advantage in our run game we had to sit on the sideline as Washington possessed the ball the entire 2nd and 3rd quarters.

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I don’t think Sark was completely outcoached last night. He made some mistakes, but nothing unusual for coaches to make. It can be really hard to get something going when you fumble in your own red zone against the team that is doing whatever they want offensively against your secondary. The blue fumble killed us because we were about to score, I have no doubt. DeBoer was trying to manufacture the biggest choke job in recent college football history. The last two offensive drives for Washington were completely inexcusable.  

How many passes did QE have deflected at the line of scrimmage? 

Just now, B00M said:

How many passes did QE have deflected at the line of scrimmage? 

Way too many... that sidearm delivery, I really hope he works on adjusting that this off season.

1 hour ago, gmr548 said:


 but when you’ve got experienced guys still setting the team back because they able to execute sets pre snap it tells me you’re not effectively teaching.


Really? So you see Majors make an illegal snap (how many times has he done that, anyway?) and you think it's because Flood's not effectively teaching him? Perhaps Majors is just not effectively learning?

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I can't say anything that hasn't already been said, but...., I'm damned proud of what Sark has done, what the team accomplished, and can't wait for next year. 

Longhorn football is fun again. It's been awhile. 

 

Hook 'em!

I put a lot of blame on Gideon and Joseph for our DB play all year. I know we are lacking talent there, but the position coaches should be able to develop the talent they have and our DBs have not showed any improvement throughout the year. We play with bad technique, which to me, is the coaching. When was the last time our secondary looked nack to track the ball? I won't mind seeing one or both of these coaches getting replaced.

 

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yup....crazy that we only ran 5 plays in the 3rd quarter. 

 

Both lost fumbles were after big gains in the run game, and they came within about 10 offensive plays of each other. Then we would promptly follow up good first down plays with pre snap penalties almost every single time. It is impossible to get going when you are doing stuff like that.  

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1 minute ago, B00M said:

How many passes did QE have deflected at the line of scrimmage? 

I counted at least 4. 

People have been questioning the playcalling in the final series. I didn't love it, but I can understand Sark's frustration. You can't run - no timeouts and only a few second left. You can't pass over the middle - the space is too tight and they've batted down every ball Ewers threw over the middle. Worthy was clearly not even 75%, especially moving laterally, so you can't rely on him as an option. Chucking it up to Mitchell in the corner felt more like a prayer than playcalling, but I can also understand it. His options were pretty limited. 

That said, we can expect more from Sark. He gets paid to be better than that. But I also have been impressed with his ability to learn and adapt. I have every expectation that this season was a learning experience for him and he'll immediately start working to figure out what to do in this sort of situation in the future. 

UW was always going to be a bad matchup for us. Their biggest strength (Pass O) is our biggest weakness (pass D). Hard for coaches to suddenly change that especially when the QB is on fire like that. We got his very best yesterday.

That said - it wasn't Sark's best game. Team came in tight/sloppy, we should've run the ball more bc they couldn't stop it, the last 4 plays sucked, and while not as impactful putting a one-handed guy back at returner was hilariously dumb.

Also, Daboer is a really good coach.

Regardless - great year by Sark. You live and you learn. Glad he's at UT.

8 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

I put a lot of blame on Gideon and Joseph for our DB play all year. I know we are lacking talent there, but the position coaches should be able to develop the talent they have and our DBs have not showed any improvement throughout the year. We play with bad technique, which to me, is the coaching. When was the last time our secondary looked nack to track the ball? I won't mind seeing one or both of these coaches getting replaced.

 

Joseph is the guy that I feel like needs to go. Gideon actually has developed Taafe into a serviceable player and has brought Williams along in a nice way this season into being the unquestioned starter heading into next year. Taafe, Thompson, and Crawford are a mixed bag of massive limitations either athletically or mentally, and Thompson was just dog shit this year. I think PK had to alter his defense to hide the safeties almost all season, but our technique on balls in the air from our defensive backs is just inexcusable. There is no reason long corners like Watts and Brooks cant turn around to make plays on the ball in the air. 

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2 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I counted at least 4. 

People have been questioning the playcalling in the final series. I didn't love it, but I can understand Sark's frustration. You can't run - no timeouts and only a few second left. You can't pass over the middle - the space is too tight and they've batted down every ball Ewers threw over the middle. Worthy was clearly not even 75%, especially moving laterally, so you can't rely on him as an option. Chucking it up to Mitchell in the corner felt more like a prayer than playcalling, but I can also understand it. His options were pretty limited. 

That said, we can expect more from Sark. He gets paid to be better than that. But I also have been impressed with his ability to learn and adapt. I have every expectation that this season was a learning experience for him and he'll immediately start working to figure out what to do in this sort of situation in the future. 

As I saw a few mention, I think Sark went for the quantity over quality in the last 4 plays. We had 15 seconds left and we had about 4 plays if they were run very quickly. This means the QB needs to get rid of it almost instantly against a defense that already knows the exact perimeter to defend. They know we can't run behind them. They know we can't run the ball at all. I get wanting to maximize your shots at the endzone but you have to make those plays count. The 1st down call was horrendous and I had a sinking feeling after that play. There was zero upside with that play. We were too far away for a score. Could have been tackled in bounds and game over.

I would have liked to see some roll outs and 2 legit shots at the endzone rather than 4 hurried plays, where 3 had zero shot to do anything. 1st down was a screen behind the line. 2dn down the ball was thrown way out of reach. 3rd down was a desperation by Quinn just to get rid of the ball. Our 4th down play was the actual only play out of 4 that even came close and even that ball wasn't thrown great and gave us no real shot. Just a kick in the nuts to end that game.

Let's flip the sides and say Washington has the ball in that same exact situation needing a TD. I would expect much better plays and execution. 

Sark has been everything I could have wanted in a hire so far. I feel very confident about the state of Texas football going forward, dude is going to be an all-timer here at Texas when it's all said and done. The right man leading Texas at one of the most crucial points in program history, and he's got us humming right now.

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

As I saw a few mention, I think Sark went for the quantity over quality in the last 4 plays. We had 15 seconds left and we had about 4 plays if they were run very quickly. This means the QB needs to get rid of it almost instantly against a defense that already knows the exact perimeter to defend. They know we can't run behind them. They know we can't run the ball at all. I get wanting to maximize your shots at the endzone but you have to make those plays count. The 1st down call was horrendous and I had a sinking feeling after that play. There was zero upside with that play. We were too far away for a score. Could have been tackled in bounds and game over.

I would have liked to see some roll outs and 2 legit shots at the endzone rather than 4 hurried plays, where 3 had zero shot to do anything. 1st down was a screen behind the line. 2dn down the ball was thrown way out of reach. 3rd down was a desperation by Quinn just to get rid of the ball. Our 4th down play was the actual only play out of 4 that even came close and even that ball wasn't thrown great and gave us no real shot. Just a kick in the nuts to end that game.

Let's flip the sides and say Washington has the ball in that same exact situation needing a TD. I would expect much better plays and execution. 

Dude, the first down call wasn't supposed to go to blue. That was a check down under pressure. 

If someone had told you 2 years ago, after going 5-7 and losing to Kansas, fucking KANSAS, that Sark would take the team to the CFP in 2023 you wouldn't have believed them.   Saban giving Sark a second chance after bottoming out may be the best thing that has happened for Texas football this century.  You don't have to be on the Sark train, but don't stand on the tracks or you might get run over.

 

Last year we knocked on the door. This year we beat on it. Next year we're going to kick the son of a bitch in! - Some Football Guy

2 hours ago, gmr548 said:


Undoubtedly this, for starters. I did not have this team sniffing the CFP this year. Last night stings with the way it went down but it was kind of house money for me. It was a great season. A season that will be a part of program lore. Sark absolutely deserves credit for building the program up to a place where that can even come together at all, let alone the fact that it actually did.

Texas did not look out of place last night in a CFP semifinal. Yeah, they lost because they had a few too many miscues and the NFL QB and WRs, plural, on the other side balled out; but Texas went out and competed at the sport’s highest level. As a fan that’s all you can really ask for at the end of the day. Every champion has some luck and breaks go their way and that wasn’t there for Texas last night. Oh well.

I will say I had a sneaking feeling that Sark’s deficiencies as an in game coach could bite Texas in this one and I do think that was the case. Sark has no doubt elevated the floor of this Texas program to the point where the expectation of competing for a 12-team playoff spot on a near-annual basis is reasonable. As long as they continue to bring in and develop talent like they have I think that’s the case. And really that’s all I’m looking for as a fan. I can live with quite a few 8-9 win seasons, especially assuming we’re eventually looking at a 9 game SEC schedule, as long as there is 1.) A winning record vs OU, and 2.) Some 10+ win upside years every few years where the team competes for a conference and national title. After this year I think Sark is capable of meeting that bar so consider me converted.

But I’m not sure I believe Sark will ever put together 2-3 games against similar talent and quality coaching to actually win a national championship though. But hey, Mack Brown didn’t have any hardware… until he did. He’s no doubt earned the opportunity to lead the program into the SEC with the full support of the fanbase and admin for the foreseeable future.

With the talent we're accumulating, 8-9 wins would be a letdown. Top classes shouldn't just win 8-9 games a year. That's for Ole Miss to do. We better be better than that. 10 wins should be mandatory with our talent. We're only behind Bama and Georgia currently in recruiting , and we've shown we can beat Bama. I believe we can beat Georgia as well. I'm sure we'll lose a few games in year 1, but year 2 I expect 10 win seasons. 8-9 ain't going to cut it. Aggy wins 8 games, we should be better than that with Sark. That's when recruits start looking away. We have the talent to win 10 games. If we start dropping off, so do the recruits to Bama, LSU, Georgia, and even Ole Miss. 

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

UW was always going to be a bad matchup for us. Their biggest strength (Pass O) is our biggest weakness (pass D). Hard for coaches to suddenly change that especially when the QB is on fire like that. We got his very best yesterday.

That said - it wasn't Sark's best game. Team came in tight/sloppy, we should've run the ball more bc they couldn't stop it, the last 4 plays sucked, and while not as impactful putting a one-handed guy back at returner was hilariously dumb.

Also, Daboer is a really good coach.

Regardless - great year by Sark. You live and you learn. Glad he's at UT.

 

I would really talk to some people who know football. We have way too much talent to play that poorly against the pass. I'm thinking about calling Sweat later in the week to get his thoughts. The 15 yard cushion on 3rd down (I think it was the third quarter) was ridiculous but the openings all over the field makes me think that it is a schematic issue - no rush and still it looked like frequent single coverage. Maybe we need better defensive ends, but they are containing and rushing so I don't know how much they would help. But, no rush, and single coverage and big cushions aren't good combinations.

Sark, definitely should have moved away from the script. If we are rushing for 10yards a pop and the defense is letting receivers run free, we need to run the fucking ball until they stop it. The pre-detemined split between run and pass is a myth. Do what works. And running the ball would get Penix out of rhythm and it would slow the game down, and it would have opened things up even more in the second half.

And overall we played extremely sloppy and had way too many false starts, fumbles, and missed assignments. When playing against very good teams, you cannot win with all the mistakes we were making. I don't know if that was a player issue or a coaching issue (preparedness), but it will have to be corrected in an 11 team playoff. Off-games where we look totally unfocused cannot happen.

One aspect that's interesting to me is that Sark has gotten a lot of credit, and rightly so, for rebuilding our lines quickly and to an SEC standard. But Washington by and large won the LOS on both sides last night. Not sure what to make of that.

4 minutes ago, TOR said:

Last year we knocked on the door. This year we beat on it. Next year we're going to kick the son of a bitch in! - Some Football Guy

Dear god don't quote this loser speak. That's a quote from a coach who never got over the hump, did not in fact kick the sumbitch in, said at a parade for literally losing in the playoffs. Fuck the oilers.

Just now, tokamak said:

One aspect that's interesting to me is that Sark has gotten a lot of credit, and rightly so, for rebuilding our lines quickly and to an SEC standard. But Washington by and large won the LOS on both sides last night. Not sure what to make of that.

Before the season started, I saw some stat about 4 and 5 stars that Georgia and Alabama had, vs Texas, at every position. And the take away from the article was that, while Texas is recruiting extremely well lately, it's only really a recent trend that it's bearing fruit on the field. Texas always recruited well, but our players would usually be big busts from their hype, and thus would eventually fall out of rotation. Alabama and Georgia were treated as the gold standards, as they basically had two-deep of 4 and 5 stars at every position. The point of the article was that it would take Texas a few more recruiting rounds before they could bully anybody in the country all day and night like Georgia and Bama normally can. I think that's what we saw last night, the limits of our current depths.

Like, imagine what this game would have looked like had we had, say, Jonathan Brooks available.

12 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Dude, the first down call wasn't supposed to go to blue. That was a check down under pressure. 

That was my read also. My issue with it was 1) don’t check down, just throw it at his feet 2) the fake toss to start the play just wasted time and took Quinn’s eyes away from downfield 

Does Steve lose 2 fumbles?

Offense played great, defense was not good on the back end or pass rush. 

5 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

Dear god don't quote this loser speak. That's a quote from a coach who never got over the hump, did not in fact kick the sumbitch in, said at a parade for literally losing in the playoffs. Fuck the oilers.

OK how about this.

 

7 minutes ago, tokamak said:

One aspect that's interesting to me is that Sark has gotten a lot of credit, and rightly so, for rebuilding our lines quickly and to an SEC standard. But Washington by and large won the LOS on both sides last night. Not sure what to make of that.

Our defensive interior was great last night. They couldn’t run the ball at all but, as we’ve seen all year, we have no real edge rush and our blitz schemes are moronic against a team like that

7 minutes ago, tokamak said:

One aspect that's interesting to me is that Sark has gotten a lot of credit, and rightly so, for rebuilding our lines quickly and to an SEC standard. But Washington by and large won the LOS on both sides last night. Not sure what to make of that.

Scott Huff OL Washington won OL Coach of the year this year and showing to possibly be best OL coach in the country. All the guys last night were recruited and developed out of high school by him.

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First let's talk about the game-    Here's the deal. Sometimes the other guys are really good and they can make plays as well.  Penix was making great throws, and to be honest our coverage was tight most of the time early, but the receivers were making fantastic catches!  Hell if you look at our players offensively the stats are good individually but not cumulatively. Running Blue 6.6 ypc, Baxter 7.1 ypc, passing Sanders 12.5, Whittington 17.5, Worthy 22.5, Blue 11.3 with Baxter 19.5 yard per catch.  The anomaly is Mitchell at 5 ypc.

But Ewers completes only 55% of his passes.  The complete ones were solid, the running game was solid, what was weak was completion percentage and fumbling the ball away. Even then you have to remember that one of Washington's TD's was a tip, And one 3rd down completion was a tip that took heat off a ball that would would have been overthrown.  We also got lucky with the early muff.

But let's talk about Sark. Bottom line is we nearly won a game with our QB only completing 55% of his passes against an undefeated #2 team in the country.  The fact we came back at the end was a testament to the type of mentality this team has developed!  The most difficult thing for a head coach to do is build a culture.  At first coaches have to come in and be not only the coach, but the head disciplinarian and head motivator.  And it's never, ever, ever successful... at least at first.  Winning coaches develop a culture within the team where team leaders are the motivators, and largely take over the role of disciplinarian of the players producing accountability to the team and each other.  THIS is the secret sauce to success over time.  Sark has added this secret sauce to our team and now we are in a good position moving forward from an accountability and team unity perspective.  And that my friends is light years from where we were, at 5-7 with us finding a way to lose and players not looking past the tips of their own noses in many cases.

Today we have a solid two deep at every position like we have not seen in decades.  OF course there are some holes to fill, but it's been a long time since we had backups of a high enough quality level to step up and step right in.   Sark has in essence rebuilt the program. In his own image no less.  I think that one of the things that I like most about Sark is his relationship with the players.  You hear time and again how he genuinely takes an interest in their lives beyond football, and that's how he spends most of his time interacting with players on an individual basis.  His past very public missteps also make hime more relatable to kids.  As opposed to the dishonest "just be perfect" mindset so many coaches project, despite the reality.  I think this makes Sark approachable and makes players and equally as importantly a player's parents comfortable with him.  This has allowed him to kick ass high school recruiting.  The other thing I LOVE about Sark is he realizes that continuity is so very, very important in maintaining a culture.  He has been very selective in bringing in portal players, because he understands how one or two very talented bad apples can start a rot in the whole barrel.  This is perhaps the most overlooked quality that I think Sark possesses.  

We had disappointment last night. But Sark has earned his money and we are in a very good spot going into the SEC in 2024.  Imagine what might have been with 58% completions and only one fumble... If you are not happy with Sark you are a fucking moron.

 

3 minutes ago, horn4life said:

Ewers completes only 55% of his passes. 

UW scouted the hell out of Quinn and picked up something that let them bat down too many of his throws.  

8 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

That was my read also. My issue with it was 1) don’t check down, just throw it at his feet 2) the fake toss to start the play just wasted time and took Quinn’s eyes away from downfield 

Yeah, no one was biting on the play action there. In hind sight, I don't think a run on 3rd or 4th down would have been that crazy. 

4 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah, no one was biting on the play action there. In hind sight, I don't think a run on 3rd or 4th down would have been that crazy. 

I also hate that we ran everything that series to the narrow side of the field with no shots the opposite side

7 minutes ago, TOR said:

UW scouted the hell out of Quinn and picked up something that let them bat down too many of his throws.  

“Hey he has a low release point on his throws, remember to get your hands up if you have the chance” 

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24 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

With the talent we're accumulating, 8-9 wins would be a letdown. Top classes shouldn't just win 8-9 games a year. That's for Ole Miss to do. We better be better than that. 10 wins should be mandatory with our talent. We're only behind Bama and Georgia currently in recruiting , and we've shown we can beat Bama. I believe we can beat Georgia as well. I'm sure we'll lose a few games in year 1, but year 2 I expect 10 win seasons. 8-9 ain't going to cut it. Aggy wins 8 games, we should be better than that with Sark. That's when recruits start looking away. We have the talent to win 10 games. If we start dropping off, so do the recruits to Bama, LSU, Georgia, and even Ole Miss. 

we have the new auto win with SEC schedule.  below is what I think based on JB and Quinn being back.

games we have to win - CSU, ULM, UTSA, at Vandy, Miss ST, Kentucky, FLA

should win - at Ark, At aggy

50/50 - Georgia, at Mich, OU

10 wins would be winning all the must and should and one of the 50/50 games.  I'm a little concerned about losing Murphy and Sweat and how that affects the run D.

 

 

On 12/11/2023 at 9:17 PM, TreatyOak said:

If I were the AD, I would immediately sign him to a contract extension that pays him $78M if we fire him. The number could decrease somewhat each year but still be much higher than any other buyout. However, I would make sure the extension allows him to leave for any other job. I know this seems like poor financial management, and is unprecedented, but it demonstrates our commitment to our success. 

Edit: I’ve been hesitant to share this, but it’s really been bugging me that we didn’t present him w a future championship trophy at his opening press conference. We could have left the date blank. It would have been a beautiful gesture that would have been really respected by all the other schools. 

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30 minutes ago, tokamak said:

One aspect that's interesting to me is that Sark has gotten a lot of credit, and rightly so, for rebuilding our lines quickly and to an SEC standard. But Washington by and large won the LOS on both sides last night. Not sure what to make of that.

our oline was so over rated it's crazy

our oline was so over rated it's crazy

Maybe, but they have improved massively. Just think back to how fucking completely ineffective the OL was for years up until he took over. It was a total joke for a decade.

I’m good with the progress. Hope it keeps up.
1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

we have the new auto win with SEC schedule.  below is what I think based on JB and Quinn being back.

games we have to win - CSU, ULM, UTSA, at Vandy, Miss ST, Kentucky, FLA

should win - at Ark, At aggy

50/50 - Georgia, at Mich, OU

10 wins would be winning all the must and should and one of the 50/50 games.  I'm a little concerned about losing Murphy and Sweat and how that affects the run D.

 

 

at Ark, if we fuck something up next year that will be it.

1 minute ago, hookem48 said:

our oline was so over rated it's crazy

How was our oline overrated? It was a solid line, but hasn't been anything world beating this year. I thought generally we did ok on o line. Rushing stats certainly back that up. Pass protection wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad either. We just kept beating ourselves with penalties and fumbles on offense. 

1 minute ago, tbone_ said:


Maybe, but they have improved massively. Just think back to how fucking completely ineffective the OL was for years up until he took over. It was a total joke for a decade.

I’m good with the progress. Hope it keeps up.

no doubt they've improved thank god but every pre game announcers saying one of the best in the country was laughable.

42 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Dude, the first down call wasn't supposed to go to blue. That was a check down under pressure. 

And blue has the shake to get that to the 5 it wasn’t stupid it just didn’t work out. Game of inches sometimes.

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

How was our oline overrated? It was a solid line, but hasn't been anything world beating this year. I thought generally we did ok on o line. Rushing stats certainly back that up. Pass protection wasn't amazing, but it wasn't bad either. We just kept beating ourselves with penalties and fumbles on offense. 

because every game they got talked about like they were one of the best in the country, they were not.

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

we have the new auto win with SEC schedule.  below is what I think based on JB and Quinn being back.

games we have to win - CSU, ULM, UTSA, at Vandy, Miss ST, Kentucky, FLA

should win - at Ark, At aggy

50/50 - Georgia, at Mich, OU

10 wins would be winning all the must and should and one of the 50/50 games.  I'm a little concerned about losing Murphy and Sweat and how that affects the run D.

 

 

Brooks isn't coming back. Bobby said he's headed to the NFL. It sucks, but we have a stable of capable backs. And you and I are in agreement regarding the 10-wins. They absolutely should win 10 games with our schedule, and we will beat Michigan. They're losing almost all of their upperclassmen. I believe we can beat Georgia, especially with Carson Beck starting. Ewers should be significantly better next season. I'm going with 11 wins with a loss to some mid like Kentucky, but we win against UM and Georgia with Beck starting. 

Asking here, but is there another thread where somebody such as @Huckleberry or @BurntOrange&White kind of goes through what the CURRENT situation is on the depth chart for next season?  I know, portal etc. will change it slightly. 

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