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Went to Daddy Duncan's in Katy last Friday. Brisket was very solid. Not as good as Truth, but damn good. The beef cheek barbacoa was fine. Also tried the collard greens, which were very good. They have smoked oxtails and pork belly burnt ends on the menu. I'll give those a shot next time. Definitely worth a stop if you ever find yourself in Katy on a Friday or Saturday evening. 

Have been curious about that spot for awhile. Don’t they have fairly limited hours? I think that is what has stopped me from making it.
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    Hit up a few spots recently. Always have a few people with me and take home leftovers. Mum Foods—brisket, pastrami, ribs, sausage, and turkey ( under the ribs)     Truth BBQ

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1 hour ago, Patricio Swayze said:


Have been curious about that spot for awhile. Don’t they have fairly limited hours? I think that is what has stopped me from making it.

Yeah, he's only open Friday and Saturday from 6:00 - 10:00 pm. Very odd hours for a BBQ place. 

1 hour ago, Seasick Sailor said:

Yeah, he's only open Friday and Saturday from 6:00 - 10:00 pm. Very odd hours for a BBQ place. 

Must be a late riser.

 

I hate him already.

On 12/14/2021 at 10:31 AM, Seasick Sailor said:

Went to Daddy Duncan's in Katy last Friday. Brisket was very solid. Not as good as Truth, but damn good. The beef cheek barbacoa was fine. Also tried the collard greens, which were very good. They have smoked oxtails and pork belly burnt ends on the menu. I'll give those a shot next time. Definitely worth a stop if you ever find yourself in Katy on a Friday or Saturday evening. 

Smoked oxtails and smoked neck bones are badass when done properly.  

Picked up some beef cheeks yesterday at Leroy & Lewis over at Cosmic.  So so good.

48 minutes ago, texasdago said:

Picked up some beef cheeks yesterday at Leroy & Lewis over at Cosmic.  So so good.

They're so rich I can't eat much in one sitting, but it truly is the best single bite of BBQ I've ever had.

30 minutes ago, utee94 said:

They're so rich I can't eat much in one sitting, but it truly is the best single bite of BBQ I've ever had.

Yeah, I spread them out... ate some for lunch with some of those sweet Hawaiian roles... put a bit on a pizza I made... and just nibbled on the meat at other times.

Well, it's not a surprise.  Dude could cook.  Couldn't do much else, but he could cook.

Sorry to hear that.  He looked sick in a pic that was posted here back in the summer. 

RIP to a trouble soul. His spot on Manor in 2005 was a bbq revelation to me when I was in college. Really upped the bar for Austin bbq restaurants going forward. 

He was the one responsible for kicking off the modern BBQ revolution. He was kicking ass and changed what BBQ could be well before Franklin started.

He needs a goddamn statue. A knife in one hand and a beef rib in the other.

 

6 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

His spot on Manor in 2005

 

Hit that spot with my dad all the time.  He was doing legit que when Austin was a bbq waste land. 

 

4 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

He was the one responsible for kicking off the modern BBQ revolution.

I do disagree with this though.

pour one out for john.  rip.

Just saw that news. Sad to hear, I know he was already dead to a lot of y'all for business reasons, but he was too young to die. 

RIP John Mueller.

On 12/13/2021 at 7:52 AM, jimmyjazz said:

Back in the day, Pato's Good Tacos on 38.5th street (east of I-35) had nopales tacos with a slight pickling.  They were delicious.

I lived around the corner for a year and they were shut down by the health department 2-3 times during that year.

3 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

I lived around the corner for a year and they were shut down by the health department 2-3 times during that year.

Exactly.  Outstanding tacos.

3 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:


Who would it be then?

Probably somebody that could muster up paying their taxes and staying in business in anything other than fits and spurts. 

5 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:


Who would it be then?

I think it's John and Aaron, but if you want my honest no bullshit hot take opinion about the explosion of Texas BBQ, I feel like Shaggy/Surly had a pretty big role in making a name for those two and the ones that followed. Call me crazy but for a long long time I have sincerely believed that original Franklin thread on TOS and the ones it spawned seeded the collective conscious of all the locals and visitors who used to think Salt Lick was the best bbq EVAR. 

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Exactly.  Outstanding tacos.

They had an extremely loose policy on carding too. 

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Exactly.  Outstanding tacos.

Man I loved and miss that place. Fuckin Hobo arsonists.

Just now, Gourmand said:

I think it's John and Aaron, but if you want my honest no bullshit hot take opinion about the explosion of Texas BBQ, I feel like Shaggy/Surly had a pretty big role in making a name for those two and the ones that followed. Call me crazy but for a long long time I have sincerely believed that original Franklin thread on TOS and the ones it spawned seeded the collective conscious of all the locals and visitors who used to think Salt Lick was the best bbq EVAR. 


you could be in line at the Franklin trailer and half that line was from shaggy 

John was definitely at the fore front of the bbq revolution. Then his sister took over his spot and just kept it going there 

[mention=286]ChampKind[/mention]?

I see what you did there.

My experience at the Manor location was bad. This was around 2003-4 I guess. I assumed he had hit the bottle hard that day or something because 95% of the time at the other Austin locations, it was top shelf bbq.
3 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

I think it's John and Aaron, but if you want my honest no bullshit hot take opinion about the explosion of Texas BBQ, I feel like Shaggy/Surly had a pretty big role in making a name for those two and the ones that followed. Call me crazy but for a long long time I have sincerely believed that original Franklin thread on TOS and the ones it spawned seeded the collective conscious of all the locals and visitors who used to think Salt Lick was the best bbq EVAR. 

There is definitely something to this.  Hit the OG trailer spot on rec of the shag and it became regular rotation.  There were some really weird posts in that thread back on shag that brought into posters and eyes from different universes. 

Just now, tx 3 putt said:


you could be in line at the Franklin trailer and half that line was from shaggy 

That is EXACTLY right. I think the reason that the line phenomenon exists with Franklin (and now by extension other spots as well) is because all the shaggy assholes who made it a contest to get there early enough for the ribs because those were always the first to sell  out. That line-ironically enough, for Aaron's pork ribs--is what started it all. 

I think it's John and Aaron, but if you want my honest no bullshit hot take opinion about the explosion of Texas BBQ, I feel like Shaggy/Surly had a pretty big role in making a name for those two and the ones that followed. Call me crazy but for a long long time I have sincerely believed that original Franklin thread on TOS and the ones it spawned seeded the collective conscious of all the locals and visitors who used to think Salt Lick was the best bbq EVAR. 

While John was cooking next level que on Manor, Aaron was cleaning his toilets.

Sure, Aaron took it to the stratosphere but John lifted that rocket ship off the ground. His Manor joint had lines out the door at lunch daily, well before Franklin ever sold a brisket.

Honestly, I think a lot of it taking off had to do with Austin’s food scene coming into its own at the same time destination dining TV (Bourdain, etc) and food blogging and vlogging took off.

Edit: "consciousness" not conscious or conscience but I guess conscience would work in the context of Salt Lick vs Mueller/Franklin.

 

1 minute ago, CooterBrown said:


While John was cooking next level que on Manor, Aaron was cleaning his toilets.

Sure, Aaron took it to the stratosphere but John lifted that rocket ship off the ground. His Manor joint had lines out the door at lunch daily, well before Franklin ever sold a brisket.

Honestly, I think a lot of it taking off had to do with Austin’s food scene coming into its own at the same time destination dining TV (Bourdain, etc) and food blogging and vlogging took off.

Yep, I agree. I lived on Dancy, two blocks away from John's spot and then only a short distance from Aaron's trailer when it opened, so I was a regular at both. I was very bummed when John's spot closed but it was pretty awesome to hit up Aaron's trailer in Dec 2009 when there wasn't anyone there. My ex lived in the house directly adjacent to that property where Aaron's trailer was so I saw that line grow on a daily basis after you assholes caught on.

 

7 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Honestly, I think a lot of it taking off had to do with Austin’s food scene coming into its own at the same time destination dining TV (Bourdain, etc) and food blogging and vlogging took off.

There is an element of truth to this but having a front row seat to the Franklin BBQ growth phenomenom (as many of you others did as well), I think it's safe to say that shaggy had a big part in getting him a lot of attention online and via word of mouth. Think about all the huge ass office orders you fuckers would walk away with....those people told their friends who told their friends etc....Also that TM article a year or two later (?) written by Patricia Sharpe that featured both Aaron and John and their connection.....

he looked 25 pounds lighter in pic on the right. anyone know what medical issue he had and did he die from it?

his sister asked to share the news so it looks like they were maybe on good terms. 

i remember when shaggy gave her all kinds of shit when she accused john of stealing money. yea....we all owe her an apology. 

anyway, RIP John Mueller.

 

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Dude had great bbq when he was focused. Franklin had equal if not better food and nailed the customer service.

I worked weekends at JMMC when it first opened. Learned many techniques I use to this day when cooking anything. Not just bbq. 

Had an incredible time helping him cater the shaggy Alamo tailgate. 

He was always super fucking cool to me no matter what the haters say. Even myslef.

RIP

1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

I worked weekends at JMMC when it first opened. Learned many techniques I use to this day when cooking anything. Not just bbq. 

Had an incredible time helping him cater the shaggy Alamo tailgate. 

He was always super fucking cool to me no matter what the haters say. Even myslef.

RIP

He was always super cool to me as well. But super cool people can also be real shitty at times.  

21 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

i remember when shaggy gave her all kinds of shit when she accused john of stealing money. yea....we all owe her an apology. 

I'm not sure I'm ready to give any of the siblings the benefit of the doubt yet.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm not sure I'm ready to give any of the siblings the benefit of the doubt yet.

well, she accused him of stealing money from the business. sounds like it was a warning which also later came true.

i remember when his pit got "stolen". my immediate reaction was someone is pissed he stole from them and took his trailer as collateral.

anyway, i'm being a shithead bringing up stupid shit. 

RIP

1 hour ago, Gourmand said:

I think it's John and Aaron, but if you want my honest no bullshit hot take opinion about the explosion of Texas BBQ, I feel like Shaggy/Surly had a pretty big role in making a name for those two and the ones that followed. Call me crazy but for a long long time I have sincerely believed that original Franklin thread on TOS and the ones it spawned seeded the collective conscious of all the locals and visitors who used to think Salt Lick was the best bbq EVAR. 

Shaggy is the reason I found out about new bbq in Austin.  I was a Salt Lick guy.  Still like it for nostalgia, but the quality is chump change of course.

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Shaggy is the reason I found out about new bbq in Austin.  I was a Salt Lick guy.  Still like it for nostalgia, but the quality is chump change of course.

 

i remember the days when city market was a must stop and heading to lockheart was a BIG deal 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Shaggy is the reason I found out about new bbq in Austin.  I was a Salt Lick guy.  Still like it for nostalgia, but the quality is chump change of course.

I've often referred to the Salt Lick as the Oasis of bbq but I have to admit that the experience of eating at the RR location isn't that bad and is a usually a function of expectations. It's fine as long as you're not walking in with the intent of comparing it against benchmark standards. 

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