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On 12/7/2021 at 12:31 PM, Loch Ness Monster said:

Mavs would be a bottom 10 team in the NBA without Luka. 

Considering that they are currently only 4 spots away from that reality with Luka, I'd say you've really gone out on a limb with that one. 

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Luka recognizes the issue, that's the first step, but two years in a row?  Wow.  Also, as most can attest, it doesn't get any easier to keep weight off as you get older.  He should be fine for the next 3-4 years taking it off rapidly but if this trend continues, as he ages, it may not be gracefully.  Again, considering he's already a pretty piss poor defender, this has to be a consideration.  I've also seen he'd like to play with Ben Simmons.  No idea, what a deal to get Simmons would look like (probably need a 3rd team), but it would be a very Dallas thing to do.

 

25 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

i went to the nba trade machine and it says that malcolm brogdon can't be traded. why is that?

Extended this year.  Can't be traded for 6 months.  He's on the Pacers this year.

 

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8 hours ago, Message Board User said:

Amazing what happens when KPJ and Jalen Green are sidelined.

Jalen still needs to be playing. He isn't the issue going forward. 

KPJ on the other hand... 

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The Lakers just turned the ball over 22 times and lost to these guys by 13 points. 

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6 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

They just need a little more time to gel. 

Personally I think time is their biggest enemy but I have been wrong before.

Vogel is probably not long for the job, but he isn’t the issue. Anthony Davis is not playing at the level they need him at and Westbrook should never have been traded for. I wanted Ball brought back because I am an adamant believer in giving a young point guard time to grow into the role. 

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3 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Westbrook should never have been traded for.

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On 12/8/2021 at 1:28 PM, Message Board User said:

We didn’t need ESPN to tell us that.

Back in the Spring I suggested that it’s not a given that the Mavs won the Luka trade and the Mavs fans melted down at the suggestion.

The Mavs absolutely won that trade. Luka needs to be better but Trae will never be anywhere close to the player Luka is.

So..... we talked about this a few months ago.  Now that we're nearing Dec 15th, the eligibility of tradeable players becomes huge and now is probably a good time to restart the Simmons trade speculation.

But before we go to Portland....

 

34 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

The Mavs absolutely won that trade. Luka needs to be better but Trae will never be anywhere close to the player Luka is.

Uhhh......he is already.   More pts, more asts, shoots better from the field, 3 and the line.   More playoff success.    And thats coming from a guy who didnt think Trae would even stick as a pro

 

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

The Mavs absolutely won that trade. Luka needs to be better but Trae will never be anywhere close to the player Luka is.

He'll "never be anywhere close"?  Really?

 

My phrasing and hyperbole was poor so mea culpa on that. My point is more that Luka is always going to be a guy that gets you 27, 7, 7. His ability to impact the game will be greater than Trae since he has to physical tools to rebound and defend (not saying he does that just that it’s possible). Trae for as good as he is and will be will always be one of the worst defenders in the NBA and cant impact the game on the glass. 
Basically Luka has the ability to be a much more complete basketball player than Trae can be. 
Essentially Luka has the chance to a guy like Lebron. Trae will always be a Dame.

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2 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

So..... we talked about this a few months ago.  Now that we're nearing Dec 15th, the eligibility of tradeable players becomes huge and now is probably a good time to restart the Simmons trade speculation.

But before we go to Portland....

 

the Blazers are stupid.

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Fun ESPN slate tonight. Nets/Hawks then Celtics/Suns.

8 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

maybe Zion isn't so fat after all?

 

 

Good thing the pandemic is over 

14 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

Good thing the pandemic is over 

It isn't? 

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I like watching on ESPN because they stab me in the gut with Jalen Rose and SAS pregame before beating me over the head with Hubie Brown during the game. 

I mean... I respect the dude but I don't need every second of a basketball game explained to me. 

3 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

will be will always be one of the worst defenders in the NBA

Eh...Luka is far from a lock down defender himself. He has the ability to be a good defender, but his effort defensively is kinda reminiscent of Harden's!

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Ryan Ruocco just called the 13-12* Hawks a contender on national television. 

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Now 13-13

Hornets are up 1 with like three seconds left, and Caleb Martin fouls De'Aaron Fox in the back court, mistakenly thinking they had a foul to give. Fox was 8/8 from the line at that point.

 

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Gonna make Steph work for that 3rd one.

 

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2 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

Giannis tonight: 15/19 FG, 10/14 FT, 41 pts, 17 reb (6 OREB), 5 ast, 3 stl, 2 blk

is that good?

He is also making Steph work for his 3rd one. 

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11 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Beast - straight up bullied and owned KAT tonight.  Should be an All Star (along with Garland & Mobley).

 

Let's just send 12 Cavs. 

Mobley isn't making the all star team. I think Allen has a great case for the 2nd big spot and Garland is certainly getting up there. He'd at least be a top 2 alternate at this point I think. 

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8 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

 

Durant was living rent free by the end of that game.

If it took grabbing a little dick it took grabbing a little dick.

Trae Young is awesome(!) and well deserving of his max contract but its clear he has a ceiling less than other guys on a max that can carry a team to glory.

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Javale is playing like prime Dwight Howard tonight. 21 and 15 (7 offensive) and 2 blocks against the Celtics. 

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God these comments have me howling. 

 

8 hours ago, ztejas said:

Durant was living rent free by the end of that game.

If it took grabbing a little dick it took grabbing a little dick.

...for a regular season game in December. Maybe save the big guns for May?

9 hours ago, Message Board User said:

Beast - straight up bullied and owned KAT tonight.  Should be an All Star (along with Garland & Mobley).

 

shaka is not impressed. not enough standing outside 3 point line.

I generally don't pay much attention to the NBA until at least February but, I looked at the standings and Golden State is looking fantastic. And that is without Thompson.

For those who pay more attention than I is Thompson supposed to be back to his old playing style soon? And the Wiseman kid, could he be the player that puts them over the top for another title?

1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I generally don't pay much attention to the NBA until at least February but, I looked at the standings and Golden State is looking fantastic. And that is without Thompson.

For those who pay more attention than I is Thompson supposed to be back to his old playing style soon? And the Wiseman kid, could he be the player that puts them over the top for another title?

What to do with Wiseman is going to be a huge talking point up to the trade deadline. Since his injury in early April, the Warriors are 36-9. His absence forced them to go all in on small ball with, obviously, great success. He almost certainly won't be the starting center when he comes back. So does he give them enough in limited minutes to warrant keeping, or do they mortgage their future and move him for someone more likely to help them win now?

18 hours ago, Message Board User said:

He'll "never be anywhere close"?  Really?

 

Only on this board has Trae Young ever been a spare because he’s an OU guy.  His stats with Luka are a push but you’ll hear the Mavs won.  Never mind Trae took his team to the conference finals.

Neither play defense and Luka regularly shows up overweight.

1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I generally don't pay much attention to the NBA until at least February but, I looked at the standings and Golden State is looking fantastic. And that is without Thompson.

For those who pay more attention than I is Thompson supposed to be back to his old playing style soon? And the Wiseman kid, could he be the player that puts them over the top for another title?

i'm gonna piggyback this here, and ask the people who are more in the know than I am:

A)Is Sabonis to GS a real possibility?

B)Would GS give up Wiseman to acquire Sabonis?

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