October 29, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, henrygandorf said: let's assume for a minute that the gun (and any other real guns) lived in a lockbox only accessible by...the one person charged with keeping it safe - the armorer. if she just kept it locked away until it needed to be used for a shot, then she wouldn't have anything to worry about. other duties (propmaster?) shouldn't interfere at all in that circumstance.
October 29, 20214 yr "Hannah, still to this day has never had an accidental discharge on set"On THIS set? Or the other set where several people claim otherwise? Wtf? So now she's saying a few dozen people are lying about her actions or inactions? Seems like a, "well you gotta prove I'm an idiot" deflection.
October 29, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said: "Hannah, still to this day has never had an accidental discharge on set" well i've never struck out in the world series either. isn't she 24 working on her 2nd movie?
October 29, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said: "Hannah, still to this day has never had an accidental discharge on set" On THIS set? Or the other set where several people claim otherwise? Wtf? So now she's saying a few dozen people are lying about her actions or inactions? Seems like a, "well you gotta prove I'm an idiot" deflection. Have you seen her pics? No way anyone would ever have an accidental discharge around her.
October 29, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Michael Knight said: Her attorneys released a statement to the public that contained the word "Rhnot" ? I think she can find a better member of the New Mexico bar.
October 29, 20214 yr Yeah, that letter appears so informal and unprofessional that it may be fake or an accidental discharge.
October 29, 20214 yr Have to think the inexperienced armorer was afforded more leeway than she should have been because of her father. Not necessarily direct nepotism, but she was surely leaning on pop's reputation in securing her early gigs and being seen as much more capable than she actually was at her job(s). If you aren't familiar with her dad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thell_Reed https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0715715/
October 29, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said: Everybody running for cover, how unique. Halyna Hutchins should have.
October 29, 20214 yr so much odd shit. probably happens all the time but never gets referenced on productions with no injuries.
November 3, 20214 yr The armorer’s attorneys are now calling it sabotage. https://deadline.com/2021/11/rust-alec-baldwin-movie-sabotage-bullet-halyna-hutchins-attorneys-hannah-gutierrez-reed-1234867081/
November 3, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, MrBig said: The armorer’s attorneys are now calling it sabotage. https://deadline.com/2021/11/rust-alec-baldwin-movie-sabotage-bullet-halyna-hutchins-attorneys-hannah-gutierrez-reed-1234867081/
November 3, 20214 yr On 11/1/2021 at 12:29 AM, shadow_operative said: Dilapidated Gash Assasins Band name worthy
November 3, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, MrBig said: The armorer’s attorneys are now calling it sabotage. https://deadline.com/2021/11/rust-alec-baldwin-movie-sabotage-bullet-halyna-hutchins-attorneys-hannah-gutierrez-reed-1234867081/ So who loaded that gun with the "blanks"? Who had access to the "locker" that would have been able to open it and put a live round among the blanks? Was the locker actually locked, or was it open for anyone to grab guns and ammo as needed? There are a lot of very simple questions that could explain a lot of what was going on throughout the filming, and I'm guessing the answers would lead to an entire set full of adults that were not taking proper precaution with the guns, ammo and chain of custody of the firearms. The problem for Hannah is, it's her job to ensure people do take caution and not let anyone get hurt with her weapons.
November 3, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, MrBig said: The armorer’s attorneys are now calling it sabotage. https://deadline.com/2021/11/rust-alec-baldwin-movie-sabotage-bullet-halyna-hutchins-attorneys-hannah-gutierrez-reed-1234867081/ I Called it in the CR version: "Things Not Going Well for Alec Baldwin" On 10/25/2021 at 11:18 AM, 0xdeadbeef said: There were scabs on set, right? Have we blamed a Union worker yet? That seems totally plausible. A completely reliable anonymous source told me that this one time at band camp, a union worker.....
November 4, 20214 yr On 10/29/2021 at 4:10 PM, deadshank said: 18 pages in….too soon? Vincent killed that dude on purpose.
November 4, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Dutchrudder said: So who loaded that gun with the "blanks"? Who had access to the "locker" that would have been able to open it and put a live round among the blanks? Was the locker actually locked, or was it open for anyone to grab guns and ammo as needed? There are a lot of very simple questions that could explain a lot of what was going on throughout the filming, and I'm guessing the answers would lead to an entire set full of adults that were not taking proper precaution with the guns, ammo and chain of custody of the firearms. The problem for Hannah is, it's her job to ensure people do take caution and not let anyone get hurt with her weapons. I guess you never know when or why someone on a movie set might be wearing gloves but there should be fingerprints on the casing and other rounds in the cylinder. And if there’s not, and the people that should be loading it don’t wear gloves, that would be suspicious.
November 4, 20214 yr On 10/31/2021 at 11:29 PM, shadow_operative said: Dilapidated Gash Assasin Well, now I’ve got my male stripper name.
November 5, 20214 yr 18 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said: So, are we going to ever get to see this movie? I need more good westerns. They may have to re-shoot it.
November 6, 20214 yr On 11/4/2021 at 10:33 PM, NotActuallyALonghorn said: So, are we going to ever get to see this movie? I need more good westerns. I hear “Old Henry” is a very good 2021 production. Edited November 6, 20214 yr by Armybrat
November 6, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, Armybrat said: I hear “Old Henry” is a very good 2021 production. Why do you think I need more westerns? It's kinda like beer. After a long drought, a good one come along and you just need more.
November 7, 20214 yr On 11/3/2021 at 5:29 PM, High Plains Drifter said: Vincent killed that dude on purpose.
November 8, 20214 yr Baldwin is calling for a police officer to be present on all movie sets involving firearms. More people (and dogs) are going to be "accidentally" shot.
November 8, 20214 yr I wouldn't want to be a black act person pretending to run from a policeman act person on that set
November 8, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, NeverMarryAStripper said: I wouldn't want to be a black act person pretending to run from a policeman act person on that set
November 8, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Deej said: Baldwin is calling for a police officer to be present on all movie sets involving firearms. More people (and dogs) are going to be "accidentally" shot. Yeah, brilliant.... They don't need a competent armorer, just a cop standing around ogling the donut cart... What they need is a certified range master who just practices the rules of firearm safety. It ain't rocket science here.
November 8, 20214 yr How many firearm scenes have been filmed in the history of movies, and how many firearms accidents/fatalities have there been?I’m guessing that this is extremely rare and that the standard safety practices almost always work fine. I wonder what the per capita fatalities look like vs other entertainment professions (sports, music, theater, circuses, etc.).
November 8, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Buzzrock said: How many firearm scenes have been filmed in the history of movies, and how many firearms accidents/fatalities have there been? I’m guessing that this is extremely rare and that the standard safety practices almost always work fine. I wonder what the per capita fatalities look like vs other entertainment professions (sports, music, theater, circuses, etc.). It is pretty rare. We also probably have no idea about how many incidents actually happen on sets. The bizarre thing about this is they already had 3 incidents, and they still didn't think to take a few seconds of precaution ? How much of a disconnect was going on in these peoples heads ?
December 3, 20214 yr Watching the Baldwin interview on ABC. Very intelligent man, seemingly sincere in his thoughts... so emotional crying and sobbing. People had best remember as far as the crying goes... he's a freaking actor.
December 7, 20214 yr Pulled the hammer back and just let it go, is his story. Just following directions. Wtf
December 8, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, williemackgarza said: Pulled the hammer back and just let it go, is his story. Just following directions. Wtf That's just a lie. The type of SAA revolver he was using will not fire that way. He is also claiming his finger was outside the trigger guard against the gun, parallel to the barrel. That would have meant his finger was out in front of the cylinder and would have burned the fuck out of it. Dude is just making up shit now...sabotage ect sounds like a good way to plant some 'reasonable doubt' fa8406484076827303033a6377ea349a.mp4
December 8, 20214 yr Yep, for that to happen, it would have to be the old school type that has the firing pin on the hammer without a transfer bar safety and both the half cock and safety notches would have to fail.
December 8, 20214 yr All of his comments are just trying to create doubt, and an unclear series of events that occurred beyond his control. I’d really like to meet the person that swears that his finger was not inside the trigger guard. For something that happened so quickly, they just happened to be looking at that specific point on the gun when he was doing the maneuver ?? EDIT: In my opinion IF he's so unfamiliar with guns he wouldn't even know not to keep your finger off the trigger. Edited December 8, 20214 yr by Onboard 2.0
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