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  • Brisketexan
    Brisketexan

    No, Nicole.   That's not true.  Sure, every single human being has some innate bias etc. that colors their perspective, and different speakers PUSH different narratives.  But what is happening with th

  • hornmpa96
    hornmpa96

    That’s not true. As has been pointed out in this thread multiple times, other countries who had mass shooting events immediately changed their gun laws to make it harder or impossible to obtain the we

  • Chuckie Finster
    Chuckie Finster

    The "we can't solve 100% of the problem so we shouldn't make any attempt at all" line of thinking is a big reason why we are where we are. 

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FUCK REPUBLICANS

 

At least one victim has been transported to Grady in Atlanta.  Good and bad with this, Grady has one of the best trauma centers in the world.  Good news, more weren't sent here, meaning to me either, the other victims are not severely wounded, or too wounded to transport this far (about 40 miles).  Hoping for the former rather than the latter. 

For those interested, Winder is sort of in between Atlanta and Athens, in Northeast Georgia, roughly 40 miles from either location.  It is heavily populated and rapidly growing, much like most of the Atlanta region.    

Winder falls in the  GA 10th Congressional district - here's their proud house Rep

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/02/house-republicans-assault-weapon-pins-arent-just-a-taunt.html

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Earlier this week, congressional Democrats and media folk noticed that Republican U.S. House members, including trouble magnet George Santos, were sporting lapel pins made in the shape of an assault weapon.

I immediately thought, That has to be coming from Andrew Clyde. Last spring, I traveled through Clyde’s House district in northeast Georgia to attend a wedding, and the gun dealer’s ubiquitous campaign signs all featured the same image, which I could no more forget than the “Whiskey, Steak, Guns & Freedom” T-shirts all the servers were wearing at the reception.

Sure enough, Clyde was the one distributing the little accessories honoring lethal weapons amid this year’s epidemic of mass shootings:

It’s no surprise that there’s a market for Clyde’s pin among his GOP colleagues. Earlier this week, several pitched a fit over a Democrat’s proposal that they leave their guns behind when entering a congressional hearing room.

Clyde had already distinguished himself during his first term in Washington by managing to outdo his friend Marjorie Taylor Greene in some types of performative extremism, as I noted at the time: “While Clyde is far less well known than his fellow Georgia representative, he has made headlines for racking up fines to protest House COVID-19 mask rules and suing the House to abolish the metal detectors designed to keep shooting irons off the House floor.”

I really don't give a shit if this specific incident involved an AR-15 or not, the mentality that fetishizes guns in this country is fucking repulsive. I'm sure their seats are safe (Collins 64%, Clyde  74%  in last midterms) but perhaps they can put these fucksticks on blast for those stunts and it will resonate with other voters in GA. 

Wife is watching CNN and they just said 4 deceased and as many as 30 injured.

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1 minute ago, 1978horn said:

Wife is watching CNN and they just said 4 deceased.

Yep, I'm watching this too. At least 30 injured though they're saying that number could include kids and staff getting hurt while running from shooting.

4 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Winder falls in the  GA 10th Congressional district - here's their proud house Rep

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/02/house-republicans-assault-weapon-pins-arent-just-a-taunt.html

I really don't give a shit if this specific incident involved an AR-15 or not, the mentality that fetishizes guns in this country is fucking repulsive. I'm sure their seats are safe (Collins 64%, Clyde  74%  in last midterms) but perhaps they can put these fucksticks on blast for those stunts and it will resonate with other voters in GA. 

It won't.  

And now we are getting revised figures, the death toll and injuries are rising.  

7 minutes ago, 1978horn said:

Wife is watching CNN and they just said 4 deceased and as many as 30 injured.

Jesus, I heard 2 dead and 4 injured about 15 minutes ago.

And I felt surreal as I actually thought, well, at least this one wasn't *that* bad.

The fucking country we live in today, good god.

11 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Jesus, I heard 2 dead and 4 injured about 15 minutes ago.

And I felt surreal as I actually thought, well, at least this one wasn't *that* bad.

The fucking country we live in today, good god.

CNN has 30 hurt 4 Dead

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My oldest buddy is a veterinarian in Athens.  Reading between the lines, this is not looking good at all.

When can we start the ballistics discussion?

Again, to point out how ubiquitous and globally acknowledged this is, my kids each have lived in several foreign countries.  To this day, they relate that when they end up in arguments (usually good-natured) with locals about which place is better (wherever they are vs. the US), the locals regularly end up playing the accurate card of "oh yeah?  Well at least I won't get shot when I go to school."

It is literally part of our national identity.  Yay.  We did it.

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CNN reporter on scene said a 16-year-old girl talked to her a little while and showed her a text she sent to her mom once she realized she was hearing gunshots in her school.

The text read: "I know I haven't been a perfect daughter. I'm sorry."

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. We must be better than this.

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My oldest buddy is a veterinarian in Athens.  Reading between the lines, this is not looking good at all.

What would a veterinarian miles away from the shooting know that the general public doesn’t.

2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What would a veterinarian miles away from the shooting know that the general public doesn’t.

Whether someone's horse got shot?

2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What would a veterinarian miles away from the shooting know that the general public doesn’t.

Dogs in the general vicinity are on heightened alert for being shot with the increased police presence near the school. Vets are on alert to take care of the wounded.

4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What would a veterinarian miles away from the shooting know that the general public doesn’t.

Winder is 25 miles from Athens. Perhaps @jimmyjazz's buddy knows people in that community?

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Winder is 25 miles from Athens. Perhaps @jimmyjazz's buddy knows people in that community?

Possibly. I still wouldn’t put a ton of (any) stock into it. I recall that poster from hawaii that was saying the Maui wildfire death toll was going to be close to or over 1000 because they knew several first responders saying how bad it was. The real death toll ended up being about 105. People that close to a situation don’t have a good overview of what’s going on usually. It’s already a fucked up situation regardless, no need to sensationalize.

GBI says four killed and nine taken to the hospital. Suspect is alive and in custody.

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

GBI says four killed and nine taken to the hospital. Suspect is alive and in custody.

so a white guy.

3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

so a white guy.

Well it was a school shooting so...

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

GBI says four killed and nine taken to the hospital. Suspect is alive and in custody.

Death toll won’t climb much then. It was already too high when it got to 1 though. Just sad.

3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Death toll won’t climb much then. It was already too high when it got to 1 though. Just sad.

Thank god Uvalde/South Texas LE wasn't on the scene today. The killing might not over yet if they had.

14 year old shooter per CNN

27 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What would a veterinarian miles away from the shooting know that the general public doesn’t.

Oh shut the fuck up for once in your life.  He is highly connected in the area, he travels all around to area farms.

26 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Whether someone's horse got shot?

He is literally a horse vet.  Oh, and a Major Colonel in the AF with time on the ground in Falujah.

EDIT:  sorry, forgot the promotion

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oh shut the fuck up for once in your life.  

Good luck with that. 

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oh, and a Major Colonel in the AF with time on the ground in Falujah.

That makes no sense - our AF doesn't have any horse cavalry divisions.

7 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

14 year old shooter per CNN

Jesus fucking christ

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

That makes no sense - our AF doesn't have any horse cavalry divisions.

This is true.  They also struggle to hire MDs, so they reach out to others and hire them as "medical officers".

(I know you're just being sarcastic, but it actually came as a surprise to me when he joined up WAY out of school.)

2 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

Jesus fucking christ . . . would want it this way.

FIF fundagelical MAGA 2nd amendment absolutists.

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oh shut the fuck up for once in your life.  He is highly connected in the area, he travels all around to area farms.

No offense, but I'm with Helobious on this one (yikes). Your initial post was just a weird way of saying, "it sounds like it's worse that what's being reported."

Had you said, "I have a veterinarian friend who works in the area and is highly connected. The families are being told [this], and some of the doctors he knows have been called in," then that would be pertinent.

The kids who CNN are talking to are no doubt running on adrenaline. But what strikes me is they don't seem as shaken up as I'd imagine.

I'm sure the weight and reality of what just happened to them today will hit them later but they almost seem resigned that this is perfectly NORMAL, almost expected.

10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oh shut the fuck up for once in your life. 

you have almost 40,000 posts on this website

6 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No offense, but I'm with Helobious on this one (yikes). Your initial post was just a weird way of saying, "it sounds like it's worse that what's being reported."

Had you said, "I have a veterinarian friend who works in the area and is highly connected. The families are being told [this], and some of the doctors he knows have been called in," then that would be pertinent.

The reason I didn't say that is that (as I pointed out) I'm reading between some lines.  He's a pretty stoic dude.  He's not texting me on the scene video.

Y'all can just forget that I posted, I don't give a flying fuck.  RIP to those kids.

54 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My oldest buddy is a veterinarian in Athens.  Reading between the lines, this is not looking good at all.

Was the Uvalde PD assigned there for security?

30 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

This fictional god sure is doing a bang-up job.

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

I'm sure the weight and reality of what just happened to them today will hit them later but they almost seem resigned that this is perfectly NORMAL, almost expected.

If you have or are connected to school age kids over the age of 10 or so, maybe ask them "so, do you think that getting shot at school is something that actually might happen to you?"  The answers are...incredibly sad.

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My own kids related to me the fact that it was matter-of-course for them and their peers to assess each classroom for escape routes and shelter/blocking points.  Just a casual thing they did as a matter of routine.  When my daughter explained to her peers at a (non-US) university that she continued to do so even in her college lecture halls, they were legit shocked.  Her American friends just nodded along with her.

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

This fictional god sure is doing a bang-up job.

It's possible God doesn't love those particular kids.

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

Winder falls in the  GA 10th Congressional district - here's their proud house Rep

 

I'm sure if Mike Collins was at that school with his rifle that he's so horny for that it's more important than kids being alive, he would've taken down the shooter instantly while getting off spectacular hip shots. 

they've grown up with active shooter drills and trauma kits in their classes.  of course they think it's a possibility.  it's disgusting that we've allowed this to continue for so long.

Just now, mdmost said:

I'm sure if Mike Collins was at that school with his rifle that he's so horny for that it's more important than kids being alive, he would've taken down the shooter instantly while getting off spectacular hip shots. 

Need an update:  how many civilian good guys with guns have actually taken down a mass shooter?  There was the dude who chased and killed a guy who had slaughtered a bunch of church-goers, was that Sutherland Springs?  Anyone else?

CNN reporter from trauma hospital in Atlanta said there were two Apalachee shooting victims there, one adult who was in surgery for a gunshot wound to the stomach and another he only said was described as a "child."

13 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No offense, but I'm with Helobious on this one (yikes). Your initial post was just a weird way of saying, "it sounds like it's worse that what's being reported."

Had you said, "I have a veterinarian friend who works in the area and is highly connected. The families are being told [this], and some of the doctors he knows have been called in," then that would be pertinent.

 

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