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Well, it's obvious that banks need more security. 

Republicans are soft on mass shootings.

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    No, Nicole.   That's not true.  Sure, every single human being has some innate bias etc. that colors their perspective, and different speakers PUSH different narratives.  But what is happening with th

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    That’s not true. As has been pointed out in this thread multiple times, other countries who had mass shooting events immediately changed their gun laws to make it harder or impossible to obtain the we

  • Chuckie Finster
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    The "we can't solve 100% of the problem so we shouldn't make any attempt at all" line of thinking is a big reason why we are where we are. 

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17 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Yes. Our prison demographics track right along with Norway. And probably Sweden.  Maybe Iceland?

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It's always a fuckin hoot when these dumbfucks slip up and give the game away.

was This a robbery gone wrong or targeted mass shooting?  I mean it’s a fucking bank with a dead cop .  The mental gymnastics on this one are gonna have a difficulty rating through the roof.  
 

maybe the most secure building in Louisville.  Lots of good guys with guns.  Gonna go out in a big limb and assume the bank doesn’t mke a habit of propping their doors open.  
 

I know you guys won’t go through the cerebral hurdles so please feel free to immediately pivot to a ballistics/caliber lecture so we can to the next shooting.  

4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

was This a robbery gone wrong or targeted mass shooting?  I mean it’s a fucking bank with a dead cop .  The mental gymnastics on this one are gonna have a difficulty rating through the roof.  
 

maybe the most secure building in Louisville.  Lots of good guys with guns.  Gonna go out in a big limb and assume the bank doesn’t mke a habit of propping their doors open.  
 

I know you guys won’t go through the cerebral hurdles so please feel free to immediately pivot to a ballistics/caliber lecture so we can to the next shooting.  

Look, people dying is a small price to pay for me to be able to play with my toys.

 

 

1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Look, people dying is a small price to pay for me to be able to play with my toys.

It’s literally the only argument they have based on truth 

That, and I’m scared to leave my house without a gun. 

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4 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Look, people dying is a small price to pay for me to be able to play with my toys.

 

 

Beat me to it. 

12 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Look, people dying is a small price to pay for me to be able to play with my toys shoot feral hogs.

Another one of the greatest hits.

19 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Look, people dying is a small price to pay for me to be able to play with my toys.

 

 

If he volunteers to be one of them, I will award him an interweb point. 

Greg Abbott currently investigating this man's political views to see if he should issue a posthumous pardon.

Yes, toys.  Appropriate considering how many children die from them.  It’s like a bad Irving Mainway sketch.  
 

oh wait, we circling back to blame video games and rap lyrics for gun violence?  Hot take.  
 

also, how are you posting here.  Figured you to be the type to get all rigorous on the thoughts’n ‘n prayin’?

5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Toys? 

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10 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Toys? 

Would you prefer "penis substitutes"?

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Would you prefer "penis substitutes"?

Murder dildos was my favorite, if we’re being honest. 

My guns are toys.  I keep them locked up in a safe and they’re dangerous but I’m not using them for self defense, hunting, or as an investment.  It’s a purely recreational endeavor, at least for me.  

My guns are toys.  I keep them locked up in a safe and they’re dangerous but I’m not using them for self defense, hunting, or as an investment.  It’s a purely recreational endeavor, at least for me.  

Mine are also toys. I don’t need them. They are also locked in a safe. Id also hand them over tomorrow if the laws were changed. Or register them. Or go through background checks (maybe piggy back off the ones I do for coaching and being a ref)… you know basically anything other than the shit that’s being done now.

My new tag line:

A moment of silence for the  people of (insert name of city where most recent gun violence is occurring) who give their lives today to protect the 2nd amendment, gun industry profits and the value of guns over people.”

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s a purely recreational endeavor, at least for me.  

It’s this same for everyone else. The vast majority of humanity lives their life every day without a gun without incident. To reject the trillions upon trillions of daily interactions between people that do not require a gun for the hundreds that a gun might increase your odds of survival is pure fear and stupidity. 

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

My guns are toys.  I keep them locked up in a safe and they’re dangerous but I’m not using them for self defense, hunting, or as an investment.  It’s a purely recreational endeavor, at least for me.  

 

1 minute ago, Goofyboy said:


Mine are also toys. I don’t need them. They are also locked in a safe. Id also hand them over tomorrow if the laws were changed. Or register them. Or go through background checks (maybe piggy back off the ones I do for coaching and being a ref)… you know basically anything other than the shit that’s being done now.

Then please, call someone, write a letter anything. Even if you're in a place that's represented by a blue representative already for it or a place that's in a red district where they won't change there mind... make the call and say you're a gun owner that supports reform.

It sucks, I hate doing it. But I make the call or write the emails because if not, one side seems to be heard much more loud and clear than the side of common sense.

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

In other words, it's a day that ends in "Y".

22 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

 

Then please, call someone, write a letter anything. Even if you're in a place that's represented by a blue representative already for it or a place that's in a red district where they won't change there mind... make the call and say you're a gun owner that supports reform.

It sucks, I hate doing it. But I make the call or write the emails because if not, one side seems to be heard much more loud and clear than the side of common sense.

Don’t forget the multi-million dollar political donation while you’re at it. 

2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

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It's always a fuckin hoot when these dumbfucks slip up and give the game away.

Slip up? 

33 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Slip up? 

So it’s not latent racism but patent?

4 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

So it’s not latent racism but patent?

Nothing about that statement is racist.  We can discuss why the demographics are different here (war on drugs, Jim Crow, whatever),  but it’s not debatable that they do not align with Norway.  It’s a poor example.

The most ethnically/racially diverse nations on Earth include Liberia, Nepal, South Africa, and the Philippines.

Hardly the mass shooting capitals of the world.  

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This is getting fucking old.....

You are saying, perhaps without knowing, that violence and imprisonment statistics in the US differ from Norway due to,”demographics”, and you did not mean young vs old.  You high fived, but otherwise ignored the example of Norway and just how they reduce recidivism, which I mentioned and Brisket elaborated on and provided a link.  
How are others supposed to react?  

15 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Nothing about that statement is racist.  We can discuss why the demographics are different here (war on drugs, Jim Crow, whatever),  but it’s not debatable that they do not align with Norway.  It’s a poor example.

The jump from "demographics here are different" to "different demographics explains why we can't get rid of a gun violence" needs an explanation. The obvious implication is that having non-white people causes gun violence. That implication would be racist (and false). If you have another explanation that gets you from step A to step B that isn't racist, I'm sure we'd love to hear it.  

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The jump from "demographics here are different" to "different demographics explains why we can't get rid of a gun violence" needs an explanation. The obvious implication is that having non-white people causes gun violence. That implication would be racist (and false). If you have another explanation that gets you from step A to step B that isn't racist, I'm sure we'd love to hear it.  

They all speak Norwegian.

Just now, Foosters said:

A chart that shows a 50% increase in gun deaths among U.S. kids between 2019 and 2021.

That's because US demographics substantially changed between 2019 and 2021. We probably got rid of all of our white people when Biden was elected. 

18 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Nothing about that statement is racist.  We can discuss why the demographics are different here (war on drugs, Jim Crow, whatever),  but it’s not debatable that they do not align with Norway.  It’s a poor example.

You know the United States is only the 68th most ethnically/racially diverse country in the world, right?  It's completely middle of the pack.  Doesn't really explain our gun violence problem like you think it does.  

2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

A chart that shows a 50% increase in gun deaths among U.S. kids between 2019 and 2021.

Pew, pew!

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

The jump from "demographics here are different" to "different demographics explains why we can't get rid of a gun violence" needs an explanation. The obvious implication is that having non-white people causes gun violence. That implication would obviously be racist (and false). If you have another explanation that gets you from step A to step B that isn't racist, I'm sure we'd love to hear it.  

Well, then you’d need to follow the entire conversation.  It started with fast break iirc comparing our stats to Sing. Then I said, I’d trade some of my rights if we took crime, and particularly punishment, as serious as Sing.  Then our prison systems success/failure was compared to Norway, which I feel is dumb as fuck, as we have a lot deeper issues across the board (war on drugs, Jim Crow holla) that makes our imprisoned demographics very hard to compare to a country such as Norway, or any of the Nordic countries.  It had fuck all to do with crimes committed with firearms, other than an initial comment about my willingness to giving up additional currently held rights for a country that would actually take crime serious

2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

You know the United States is only the 68th most ethnically/racially diverse country in the world, right?  It's completely middle of the pack.  Doesn't really explain our gun violence problem like you think it does.  

Cool. The comment wasn’t about gun violence. Maybe take a moment off from planning peoples suicides in your head and take a read thru the thread? 

We have more criminal statutes per capita and more people on trial for felonies per capita and more people in prison per capita that any other nation in the history of the world. I'd say we're pretty serious about crime.

Well, as you say, it has to do with us, and our history.   Glad to have you aboard.  Can’t change history, but we,can change us.  Let’s start with me and you.

Meh, I'm a foregone conclusion.  I lost my passion for politics a long time ago.  I just get energized by fucking with stupid people.  Keeps me warm.

I didn't used to give a shit on guns one way or the other for decades.  But there's been 2 active shooter warnings at my daughter's school in as many years.  Like, not drills...but police rolling up heavy because of one armed adult nearby and one kid who brought a gun to school with them.  Nevermind the dozens of drills they've done since she was in kinder.  And then one day she asked me why anybody would want to shoot up her and her friends.  And without thinking of looking at the Dan Patrick pamphlet for "talking to your kids about active shooter events"............I just blurted out, "Because they can."      In hindsight, it was the most honest thing I could say, but also horribly detrimental.  

I'm still for the 2A.  I am still a proficient shooter.  I don't want zero guns and a national registry is worthless.  

It just comes back to stupidity for me.  We are being purposely stupid to let stupid people have stupidly easy access to a stupid amount of firepower.  And we couldn't be more proud of the stupid part.  People don't stop to think, of all the amendments and enumerated rights...the only one we could monetize at the retail level is the 2nd Amendment.  We sold people on the idea that the best way to demonstrate your patriotism is to buy more and more guns.  We literally monetized stupidity and patriotism at the same time.  It was a fucking stroke of genius.  

9 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Well, as you say, it has to do with us, and our history.   Glad to have you aboard.  Can’t change history, but we,can change us.  Let’s start with me and you.

Let's leave CRT out of this.  I don't think Fattie could handle it.

5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Well, then you’d need to follow the entire conversation.  It started with fast break iirc comparing our stats to Sing. Then I said, I’d trade some of my rights if we took crime, and particularly punishment, as serious as Sing.  Then our prison systems success/failure was compared to Norway, which I feel is dumb as fuck, as we have a lot deeper issues across the board (war on drugs, Jim Crow holla) that makes our imprisoned demographics very hard to compare to a country such as Norway, or any of the Nordic countries.  It had fuck all to do with crimes committed with firearms, other than an initial comment about my willingness to giving up additional currently held rights for a country that would actually take crime serious

Again, you're still going to have to show how you jump from "different demographics" to somehow those different demographics being relevant to a comparison of our prison systems.

1) With what specific aspect of demographics are your concerned? (Age, sex?)

2) How does that demographic difference mean we can't learn something from Norway's prison system?

You think pointing out a difference exists must mean the difference matters. But that isn't how this works. That would be like watching two SUVs go through a crash test and concluding you couldn't learn anything from the differences because one had brown seats and another had black seats. You have to demonstrate and explain why that difference could matter. 

Also, to the extent your focused solely on difference in prison specific statistics (e.g., crimes in prisoned for, incarceration rates, etc.), you'd be missing the point. Of course those statistics are different. That's the whole point of the comparison. 

We have more criminal statutes per capita and more people on trial for felonies per capita and more people in prison per capita that any other nation in the history of the world. I'd say we're pretty serious about crime.

Maybe, but like I was saying, not as serious as Sing, which was what the entire conversation was based. I mean, this is what I signed last time I entered. The gum on the sidewalk is overplayed, but they tend to not fuck around, lest they find out.

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It really sucks that one, if not the, major downfall of this country will be an intentional misinterpretation of an amendment in order to suit the needs of a very specific lobbying group, leading to one party benefitting and realizing the idiots that fall for it might win them elections, causing said party to  quadruple down on the same intentional misinterpretation because they know it delivers votes, even though it kills children.  

Fair point, but Singapore is largely anecdotal.  It's a city-state with one common set of criminal laws.  It's apples to oranges, I admit.  They're caning for gum chewing and execution for drug violations are infamous, but not indicative of the fact that they have nothing compared to our criminal-judicial-incarceration complex.  

When you add up all the criminal laws (misdemeanor and felony) that are federal goverment and 50 states have on the books on a per capita basis, nobody has more "Anti-Crime" shit in writing than the United States of America.  And all this Soros-DA stuff aside, nobody makes more arrests and puts more people in front of a judge, per capita, than the United States.  And our incarceration rates should answer any concerns you may have on whether or not we lock up enough bad people.  

23 minutes ago, Foosters said:

A chart that shows a 50% increase in gun deaths among U.S. kids between 2019 and 2021.

Seems like '17-'19 were an aberration.  It's been maintaining the same upward trend since 2013.

How long does it take to refresh that graph with current data though?

apparently as long as it takes to buy an AR-15. 

IF ONLY THE FOUNDING FATHERS HADN'T INSISTED THAT ALL WEAPONS OF WAR BE LEGAL AND/OR HADN'T INSISTED THAT THE CONSTITUTION COULDN'T EVER BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE, AMIRITE, YOU CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE FUCKHEADS??

2 hours ago, Satchel said:

My new tag line:

A moment of silence for the  people of (insert name of city where most recent gun violence is occurring) who give their lives today to protect the 2nd amendment, gun industry profits and the value of guns over people.”

i had an epiphany a couple of weeks ago after watching 'Waco', realizing that cults always involve people sacrificing their children, and that is what we have in this country, a cult of gun fetishists, so of course sacrificing some kids (and others of course) is acceptable. 

a guest on Real Time last week also explained it that^ way...i.e. we have to put up with nazis and others espousing their views bc of the first amendment, thus we also have to put up with a few (dozen) kids and bystanders getting their faces blown off every week or so bc of the second amendment. 

i mean it all makes sense when you think of it like that, right? 

 

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