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#13951
1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

What's more frustrating is Corey Raymond's DB groups have been hot garbage for the past several seasons.  Granted, ours wasn't anything to brag about under Joseph until this season, but Phillips committed and flipped during the summer.  Why not just wait and see how things went for both programs during the season, which is clear as day now which one is better.

I mean they weren't good because we didn't have good players. Now we have a 2-deep of good players and magically the secondary is much better.

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#13952
6 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Dammit, really hope we don't end up regretting not taking Russell.  His junior film was absurd and his senior season is crazy. 

I remember when this board was saying the same thing with not taking Milroe. 
I think he was a few spots from a five star. 

#13953
1 hour ago, TXRed said:

On3 definitely lets popularity and clicks influence their rankings. It became obvious when they randomly moved Nico ahead of Arch in 2023. 247 is probably guilty of playing favorites as well, ESPN and Rivals are just bad. 

We know On3 and 247 manipulate rankings.  There are years when the talent should disproportionally come from fewer states....yet 5 star numbers tend to distribute uniformly from year to year.  Also, we know that Texas recruits got downgraded after the Strong and Herman evaluation screwups, not sure if we are still getting that treatment, but in Sark's first couple of seasons it was definitely the case.,

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#13954
1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Orogbo Smith and Kaliq Lockett both fell out of the Top 25 nationally. 

Should we still honor their scholarships?

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#13955
12 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Dammit, really hope we don't end up regretting not taking Russell.  His junior film was absurd and his senior season is crazy. 

Lacey will not come close to Russell as a college player, but Russell will have a much better career at Bama than he would have had in Austin due to the QBs in front and behind him at each school.

If we had switched to Russell, we might have no picked up Dia Bell. 

Russell has the potential to be amazing. Lacey doesn’t. 
 

FULL DISCLOSURE: 

I have never watched either player play, or even watched their highlights.

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#13956
3 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

I have never watched either player play, or even watched their highlights.

You're fully qualified to opine on this thread, and even start your own recruiting website.

#13957
1 hour ago, kevwun said:

If Kelly gets fired, he will be free to portal even if he signs with them.

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year Buyout Amount
November 2024 $60.8 million
November 2025 $51.7 million
November 2026 $42.5 million
November 2027 $33.1 million
November 2028 $23.4 million
November 2029 $13.5 million
#13958

This year or next, it's a matter of time.  They're not gonna let him keep losing for 2-3 more years.  They will get desperate and find the money.

#13959

Are the dollars reinvigorated after a vote of confidence from the AD and a win against an LSU team that will finish unranked? Not that these can't be natural flips because FSU is in the shitter, but obviously recruiting is heating up for Florida now.
 

On3's @SWiltfong_ has logged an expert prediction for Florida to flip Florida State IOL commit Daniel Pierre Louis🐊Read: https://t.co/OjKLLXivcV

 

#13960
18 minutes ago, kevwun said:

This year or next, it's a matter of time.  They're not gonna let him keep losing for 2-3 more years.  They will get desperate and find the money.

Or he could finally say, This is all the living in Baton Rouge that I can take

#13961

Yeah a negotiated buyout could also happen if everyone is miserable.  They'll find a way to make it happen.  They couldn't afford Orgeron's buyout either and still managed to get rid of him.

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#13963
24 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year Buyout Amount
November 2024 $60.8 million
November 2025 $51.7 million
November 2026 $42.5 million
November 2027 $33.1 million
November 2028 $23.4 million
November 2029 $13.5 million

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#13964

LSU is poor and the House case payouts coming down the chute will make them even poorer. There are a whole bunch of schools staring that reality down and they’re not making changes and can’t make changes, including UF, Arkansas, OU, USC and so on. 

Now is not the same at it ever was. Shit has gotten real on the NIL side and House makes that crazier. Places can’t just “find the money”. 

One obvious area ripe for change, and Sexton isn’t going to be able to do a damned thing about it, is coach buyouts. Programs are getting squeezed from all sides and they’re going to value players first. Jimbo Fisher buyouts became the rage and now those things are viewed as toxic. 

#13965
39 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year Buyout Amount
November 2024 $60.8 million
November 2025 $51.7 million
November 2026 $42.5 million
November 2027 $33.1 million
November 2028 $23.4 million
November 2029 $13.5 million

Does grinding on recruits count?

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#13966
2 hours ago, satyanash said:

Orogbo Smith

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

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#13967
15 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

It's the next "Makuba"

#13968
27 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

Took me a good month after he committed to realize that it wasn't some kid with the last name "Smith-Orogbo."

#13969
44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

LSU is poor and the House case payouts coming down the chute will make them even poorer. There are a whole bunch of schools staring that reality down and they’re not making changes and can’t make changes, including UF, Arkansas, OU, USC and so on. 

Now is not the same at it ever was. Shit has gotten real on the NIL side and House makes that crazier. Places can’t just “find the money”. 

One obvious area ripe for change, and Sexton isn’t going to be able to do a damned thing about it, is coach buyouts. Programs are getting squeezed from all sides and they’re going to value players first. Jimbo Fisher buyouts became the rage and now those things are viewed as toxic. 


House case payouts should be roughly 24 million dollars per power five schools, assuming the 1.65 billion in damages will be divided up equally up between the 69 power five schools.

#13970
1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Yeah a negotiated buyout could also happen if everyone is miserable.  They'll find a way to make it happen.  They couldn't afford Orgeron's buyout either and still managed to get rid of him.

There is a big difference between $17M and $61M

#13971
1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause.

This would be enough if I was on the jury  

 

#13976
1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


House case payouts should be roughly 24 million dollars per power five schools, assuming the 1.65 billion in damages will be divided up equally up between the 69 power five schools.

Yep. House is a big reason no P4 coach has been fired yet. 

#13978
29 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Fasusi visiting Texas this weekend per OTF.

Going to A&M next weekend 

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#13979
On 11/16/2024 at 6:39 PM, Funk Doctor Spock said:

We no longer need Phillips since we now hace two 5 star safeties. But Mathis would be great. Williams is meh. 

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

#13980
Just now, PsychMike said:

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

Exactly. For being a "4 star" he doesn't seem to do anything worthy of that ranking. He just kind of seems to be there and nothing more. I mean, I guess if we take 5 DT's I won't complain too much if it's him. I'll let Baker see what he can do with him. But if we don't get him, I won't lose sleep since he'll be processed at LSU. He seems more of a UTSA player to me, but that's just my opinion. 

#13981
1 hour ago, PsychMike said:

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

Been saying this for a year. Watched him throw shotput. He’s a waste bender with no twitch. Massive frame but will never be a pass rusher. Just a space eater. 

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#13982

Parker Thune (OU Rivals mod) on Fasusi

“Yeah, he’s expected at Texas this weekend and let’s just say the vibes are not great.

Not great at all.

And needless to say, if he were to decommit, that might have a major ripple effect with this class. He’s too good and too prominent for that not to be the case.

This came as a shock to people in the Switzer Center, too, which is never a good sign.”

#13984

At least Venables is gonna go have free time after the LSU game to re-recruit without having to worry about pesky bowl practices

#13985
16 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Parker Thune (OU Rivals mod) on Fasusi

“Yeah, he’s expected at Texas this weekend and let’s just say the vibes are not great.

Not great at all.

And needless to say, if he were to decommit, that might have a major ripple effect with this class. He’s too good and too prominent for that not to be the case.

This came as a shock to people in the Switzer Center, too, which is never a good sign.”

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#13988
11 minutes ago, Teryor said:

At least Venables is gonna go have free time after the LSU game to re-recruit without having to worry about pesky bowl practices

I was thinking about this the other day, but seeing what coaches do after that final regular-season game will be interesting. With signing day the following Wednesday, there is no way you can do in-home visits for everyone in your class and the guys you are trying to flip like you could in previous years.

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#13989
8 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

no insider here. but I feel like he ends up at aggy if he decommits 

“no insider here” 

No shit?

#13990

So, sorry if this triggers anyone, but I saw Stan Drayton got fired at Temple today, and I'm of the opinion that Choice is looking to move on since he only signed a 1 year extension last spring. 

Were there any sour grapes when he left? Do ya'll think he's someone we'd circle back around to if Choice does move on?

#13992
48 minutes ago, Teryor said:

At least Venables is gonna go have free time after the LSU game to re-recruit without having to worry about pesky bowl practices

LSU really sucks and might have quit on the season. 

#13993
3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

LSU really sucks and might have quit on the season. 

OU really, really sucks and may have quit on not sucking worse

#13994
1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

OU really, really sucks and may have quit on not sucking worse

It's true, but OU has a good defense and I don't think they have quit. LSU doesn't do anything well.

#13995
8 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

So, sorry if this triggers anyone, but I saw Stan Drayton got fired at Temple today, and I'm of the opinion that Choice is looking to move on since he only signed a 1 year extension last spring. 

Were there any sour grapes when he left? Do ya'll think he's someone we'd circle back around to if Choice does move on?

You shut your whore mouth 

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#13996
Brent Venables says on his coaches show that his wife’s cancer returned in May and last week she had surgery to remove a tumor.“A big part of the battle was her choice to fight and she’s going to keep swinging.” What a tough situation. #Sooners

 

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#13997
6 minutes ago, Thiefery said:
Brent Venables says on his coaches show that his wife’s cancer returned in May and last week she had surgery to remove a tumor.“A big part of the battle was her choice to fight and she’s going to keep swinging.” What a tough situation. #Sooners

 

not the thread for this but FUCK CANCER AND KEEP FIGHTING 

#13998
30 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

So, sorry if this triggers anyone, but I saw Stan Drayton got fired at Temple today, and I'm of the opinion that Choice is looking to move on since he only signed a 1 year extension last spring. 

Were there any sour grapes when he left? Do ya'll think he's someone we'd circle back around to if Choice does move on?

Considering they're the only two RB coaches in football, we'd be wise to circle back.

#13999
12 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

not the thread for this but FUCK CANCER AND KEEP FIGHTING 

If the tweet is accurate, it sounds like the cancer is recurrent and they didn't remove all of the known tumors.

#14000
4 hours ago, General Specific said:


Listen to this man, he’s pre-med!

I'd feel better if he was in hydraulics 

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