December 5, 20214 yr I hear you. I'm not arguing for Notre Dame either. I don't think teams who lost to the one good team they played should get in. You should absolutely be penalized for a bad schedule when it comes to the playoff. Edited December 5, 20214 yr by kevwun
December 5, 20214 yr This is one of those years where it wouldn't bother me if the committee felt that no teams were good enough to qualify for the playoffs and just cancel them.
December 5, 20214 yr Ha, or just have Alabama and Michigan play for the championship. The 3rd and 4th spots are a total crapshoot.
December 5, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, kevwun said: I hear you. I'm not arguing for Notre Dame either. I don't think teams who lost to the one good team they played should get in. You should absolutely be penalized for a bad schedule when it comes to the playoff. There just aren't that many great teams this year. Losing to the one good team you played and winning the rest is a pretty damn good resume in 2021. Clemson would kill for that resume and it would have put them in the CFP (I guess WF is okay).
December 5, 20214 yr If Clemson would have been good, Georgia wouldn't be in the conversation. They lost that game because of an int return for a td. Edited December 5, 20214 yr by kevwun
December 5, 20214 yr Alabama vs. Michigan is the correct answer. We used to have a system that would give us that. The only thing any playoff does in FBS is create arguments over which non-championship level team gets to lose in the playoffs.
December 5, 20214 yr 28 minutes ago, kevwun said: Ha, or just have Alabama and Michigan play for the championship. The 3rd and 4th spots are a total crapshoot. I would like to see Cincy play Michigan and Alabama gets the winner.
December 5, 20214 yr I absolutely would rather play Cincy. Scared. Nah, but gimme Cincy all day over uga. Still no one outside of 5 states wants to Georgia Bama final so why even leave a possibility out there. I wouldn’t worry. I think y’all are a bad matchup for UGA. You have a better D than Bama too. Y’all would win in a 17-13 ugly dogfight.
December 5, 20214 yr because they can't (won't) rematch the semis, there are only 4 different games that can take place: georgia/michigan bama/cincy georgia/cincy bama/michigan which game makes most sense for arlington, and which game makes most sense for miami? bama/michigan will be 1/2 so cancel that matchup arlington: michigan/georgia miami: alabama/cincy reverse engineer the rankings to fit abracadabra
December 5, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Horn Dogg said: Just fucking leave Georgia out, they got their ass beat. Georgia needs to be bypassed again. At least some in the media are pointing out they played an easier SEC schedule. If this happened, what are the odds they start crying they are going to a bowl game they really don’t want to go to?
December 5, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said: Georgia needs to be bypassed again. At least some in the media are pointing out they played an easier SEC schedule. If this happened, what are the odds they start crying they are going to a bowl game they really don’t want to go to? 100% if they lose it
December 5, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said: Georgia needs to be bypassed again. At least some in the media are pointing out they played an easier SEC schedule. If this happened, what are the odds they start crying they are going to a bowl game they really don’t want to go to? no 2-loss team has ever been selected your options to bypass 1-loss Georgia: 1-loss domer P5 2-loss conference champions P5 2-loss non-champions
December 5, 20214 yr Georgia and Notre Dame both lost to another playoff team also. It's a shitshow for the 4th spot. Neither team deserves it because they lost to the only good team they played. Edited December 5, 20214 yr by kevwun
December 5, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, phdhorn said: This is one of those years where it wouldn't bother me if the committee felt that no teams were good enough to qualify for the playoffs and just cancel them. I’m glad to see more support for my plan of setting an objective measure of playoff/championship-worthiness and taking only (and all of) those teams that achieve that standard. A variable-sized playoff is the path to a better tomorrow.
December 5, 20214 yr Just now, kevwun said: Georgia and Notre Dame both lost to another playoff team also. It's a shitshow for the 4th spot. This. I have no idea who #4 should be but I have a hard time stomaching a scenario where a team which has a data point less than 24 hours old shows they’re 17 points worse than another playoff team, has any business being in the CFP.
December 5, 20214 yr This is much ado about nothing. It's pretty set that it's going to be 1. Alabama, 2. Michigan, 3. Georgia, 4. Cincinnati Once Alabama lost to A&M Georgia became a clear number one in the eyes of the committee so why, after 10 weeks or whatever, would the committee think "Alabama and Michigan are the two best teams" and not "Alabama and Georgia are the two best teams."? You can obviously point to what happened yesterday and the committee would just shrug. I think Georgia will get "punished" for not winning the SEC, but being 2nd or 3rd doesn't really matter. I just don't see the committee throwing out 13 weeks of their data and opinions on Georgia because they lost to Alabama, no matter how bad they lost. These aren't my opinions, it's me trying to put myself in the mind of the selection committee.
December 5, 20214 yr If they expanded it to include the conference champions, they could do seeding, give out byes and have wild card teams. Then it wouldn't be as big of a deal if teams like Georgia and Notre Game got in.
December 5, 20214 yr Michigan played a much better schedule than Georgia. That's how you can put them a head of Georgia. Ohio St and Michigan St are much better than anyone Georgia beat. Edited December 5, 20214 yr by kevwun
December 5, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, Wally Pryor said: Should be pretty easy for those bastards. Bama and Ga won't play back to back. 1 Alabama 2 Michigan 3 Georgia 4. Cincy OP will be spot on which is a pity because Cincy can give Michigan or Georgia a real game. Last year's Peach Bowl had Georgia winning 24-21 vs. Cincy, scoring 14-0 in Q4 as Cincy had a 21-10 lead ending the 3rd - and Cincy is better this year. Too bad we won't see the best team in Ohio in the title game.
December 5, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said: This is much ado about nothing. It's pretty set that it's going to be 1. Alabama, 2. Michigan, 3. Georgia, 4. Cincinnati Once Alabama lost to A&M Georgia became a clear number one in the eyes of the committee so why, after 10 weeks or whatever, would the committee think "Alabama and Michigan are the two best teams" and not "Alabama and Georgia are the two best teams."? You can obviously point to what happened yesterday and the committee would just shrug. I think Georgia will get "punished" for not winning the SEC, but being 2nd or 3rd doesn't really matter. I just don't see the committee throwing out 13 weeks of their data and opinions on Georgia because they lost to Alabama, no matter how bad they lost. These aren't my opinions, it's me trying to put myself in the mind of the selection committee. It’s the secsecsec starting points coming out of the gate. Get credit for early top25 wins even if defeated teams don’t end the year ranked because - secsecsec Get credit for early season loss because - secsecsec Get credit for late season loss because - secsecsec
December 5, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, kevwun said: Michigan played a much better schedule than Georgia. That's how you can put them a head of Georgia. Ohio St and Michigan St are much better than anyone Georgia beat. ESPN SOS: Georgia 20, Michigan 21 Sagarin SOS: Michigan 31, Georgia 35 ELO SOS: Georgia 30, Michigan 38 That's just a small sample and I'm not saying I disagree with you, but what your eyes tell you isn't what the committee is going to see.
December 5, 20214 yr Getting SoS credit for feasting on mediocre SEC East teams who have winning records because they play OOS schedules that guarantee them 3 or 4 wins is some bullshit. Edited December 5, 20214 yr by kevwun
December 5, 20214 yr 1 Michigan 2 Bama 3 Georgia 4 Cincinnati Georgias best win was Kentucky. They just got destroyed by an Alabama team that struggled this year. I think the committee wants to avoid a repeat of the SEC championship game in the National championship although I could see where Georgia might just be left out all together Edited December 5, 20214 yr by EuroHorn
December 5, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, Mole said: A variable-sized playoff is the path to a better tomorrow a contractual and logistical impossibility fify
December 5, 20214 yr 38 minutes ago, EuroHorn said: 1 Michigan 2 Bama 3 Georgia 4 Cincinnati Georgias best win was Kentucky. They just got destroyed by an Alabama team that struggled this year. I think the committee wants to avoid a repeat of the SEC championship game in the National championship although I could see where Georgia might just be left out all together I would love for the Committee to have some "BALLS" and have Bama play Jawja in semifinals... (probably not gonna happen)
December 5, 20214 yr ND not 1 win over a ranked team, way over-rated Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
December 5, 20214 yr notre dame got screwed. unpopular opinion, but in a 4 team playoff, there should never be two teams from the same conference.
December 5, 20214 yr Just now, hayden_horn said: notre dame got screwed. unpopular opinion, but in a 4 team playoff, there should never be two teams from the same conference. Counter point then join a conference, Notre Dame.
December 5, 20214 yr Just now, Loch Ness Monster said: Committee wants Cincinnati to get smashed and didn't want a SEC rematch in the first round. fify
December 5, 20214 yr Is Dallas closer to Tuscaloosa than Miami? Odd choice. Will Michigan fans travel well to Miami? I'm guessing so since this is their first major rodeo this century.
December 5, 20214 yr My only takeaway from the final 4 ranking is that yesterday's Big 12 championship game didn't matter. Oklahoma State wins that game and they're number 5.
December 5, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said: Alabama vs. Michigan is the correct answer. We used to have a system that would give us that. The only thing any playoff does in FBS is create arguments over which non-championship level team gets to lose in the playoffs. 2008 Longhorns say hi you dumb ass.
December 5, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said: Is Dallas closer to Tuscaloosa than Miami? Odd choice. Will Michigan fans travel well to Miami? I'm guessing so since this is their first major rodeo this century. Saban wants an audition for Cowboys HC in front of Jerry. Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Underdog
December 5, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, HRSchenker said: My only takeaway from the final 4 ranking is that yesterday's Big 12 championship game didn't matter. Oklahoma State wins that game and they're number 5. Disagree. I think if oSu won yesterday, they'd be in at 4 over Cincinnati. It's a lot easier to put in a team that beat OU and Baylor twice over a group of 5.
December 5, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, HRSchenker said: My only takeaway from the final 4 ranking is that yesterday's Big 12 championship game didn't matter. Oklahoma State wins that game and they're number 5. Okie lite had 1 loss going in. Baylor had 2. It isn't the same scenario.
December 5, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said: Is Dallas closer to Tuscaloosa than Miami? Odd choice. Will Michigan fans travel well to Miami? I'm guessing so since this is their first major rodeo this century. Yes. By a couple hundred miles.
December 5, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, hayden_horn said: notre dame got screwed. Nope. They lost at home to Cincinnati. Only other decent win was Wisconsin (who was smashed at home by Michigan) and Purdue. Not a very strong resume'. 2 minutes ago, HRSchenker said: My only takeaway from the final 4 ranking is that yesterday's Big 12 championship game didn't matter. Oklahoma State wins that game and they're number 5. It only became that way when Bama beat Georgia. If UGA beats Bama and Okie Lite wins then I think had a shot, but Okie Lite really didn't have any signature wins. Honestly, there were only 3 "locks" - Bama, Michigan, and Cincy - with the fourth being up for debate. The options were ND (blown out at home by Cincy), Ohio State (didn't win their division and lost at home to Oregon), and Georgia (undefeated until SEC title game).
December 5, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said: Will Michigan fans travel well to Miami? First playoff appearance and chance at National Championship since 1997. You bet your ass they will travel well.
December 5, 20214 yr Just now, mdmost said: First playoff appearance and chance at National Championship since 1997. You bet your ass they will travel well. Plus Michigan or Miami in late December….tough call there 😂
December 5, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, ztejas said: Okie lite had 1 loss going in. Baylor had 2. It isn't the same scenario. Cincy had no losses going on. So yes, it isn't the same scenario
December 5, 20214 yr If Okie Lite had taken care of business— especially if they had won convincingly— I think they’d have snuck past UGA and rightfully so. The two loss teams never had a chance. It’s an unwritten rule but it has held every year. You can’t lose two games. The only real debate was UGA vs Notre Dame and either way— a rematch was in the works.
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