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On 2/28/2025 at 7:32 AM, Parliament said:

If my TSLA shorts come in, I'm buying a high-end .45.  Like way high end.  What brand/model do I want?  Wish Staccato made a .45.

Also.  How does one purchase TSLA shorts?

Like way high end?

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Chambers, Charyn, Mercier, Atlas, Hayes, Accuracy X and Infinity.  Hard to get double stack high end .45

 

Single stack old school .45

Jason Burton, Ted Yost, Chuck Rogers, Stan Chen(never heard of one changing hands), Volkmann, Cabot 

 

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Like way high end?
Double Stack
Chambers, Charyn, Mercier, Atlas, Hayes, Accuracy X and Infinity.  Hard to get double stack high end .45
 
Single stack old school .45
Jason Burton, Ted Yost, Chuck Rogers, Stan Chen(never heard of one changing hands), Volkmann, Cabot 
 

This guy is pre-med.
Like way high end?
Double Stack
Chambers, Charyn, Mercier, Atlas, Hayes, Accuracy X and Infinity.  Hard to get double stack high end .45
 
Single stack old school .45
Jason Burton, Ted Yost, Chuck Rogers, Stan Chen(never heard of one changing hands), Volkmann, Cabot 
 

Throw Cardinal in there. Just now shipping our first guns. They’re dope.
On 2/28/2025 at 10:14 AM, BabaYaga said:

Where do we start - you have the main players:  Wilson, Nighthawk, Les Baer, Dan Wesson, and Ed Brown.  Those are all 1911's.  These are generational pistols if you take care of them.  More accurate than they need to be and milled to exacting specifications (so keep them clean).

HK 23 is a high-end "tactical" option that you can suppress.  CZ Shadow is super clean and of course you have all the crazy modified polymer aftermarket options like Glock.  

If I was shopping for one, I have this love affair with the Dan Wesson bobtail with the 4.5 inch barrel.  

If you want super high end, check out Cabot. Their stuff is incredible. And they are really good guys. 

6 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

If you want super high end, check out Cabot. Their stuff is incredible. And they are really good guys. 

Heard nothing but good things.  Such a pistol would be so wasted on my "meh" accuracy with a pistol.  Even my Sig 1911 is more accurate than I am.....;)

Most quality firearms are more accurate than even very good shooters. America makes really good guns now. The fit and finish on Cabot guns is beyond anything I have ever seen in a firearm. Certainly in a handgun. You might get close on the absolute finest double barreled shotguns. 

Popped into Academy today and they had a Glock 17 Classic for $449. I get the Glock hate, but they just work for me. Range time planned for Saturday with this and a Gen5 G20. 

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Texas gun company goes bankrupt two years after launch as firearm users bemoan 'gunfluencers'

A gun manufacturer, known for its high-end rifles and military-style firearms, has filed for bankruptcy. 

Just over two years since its launch, Watchtower Firearms, the Texas-based manufacturer, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy at the end of last month.

Watchtower, which set up shop in 2022, made a name for itself by catering to civilian, military, and law enforcement markets.

Last year, it acquired another manufacturer, F-1 Firearms, as it attempted to expand.

Watchtower, led by former Raytheon executives and veterans, blitzed through influencer deals to raise brand awareness. 

Social media ambassadors included artists, competitive shooters, and content creators like Nick 'Pew View' Johnson and former Arizona Republican Senate candidate Mark Lamb. 

But the acquisition of the headline-grabbing company couldn't keep Watchtower's finances afloat. 

1 hour ago, RPM said:

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Texas gun company goes bankrupt two years after launch as firearm users bemoan 'gunfluencers'

A gun manufacturer, known for its high-end rifles and military-style firearms, has filed for bankruptcy. 

Just over two years since its launch, Watchtower Firearms, the Texas-based manufacturer, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy at the end of last month.

Watchtower, which set up shop in 2022, made a name for itself by catering to civilian, military, and law enforcement markets.

Last year, it acquired another manufacturer, F-1 Firearms, as it attempted to expand.

Watchtower, led by former Raytheon executives and veterans, blitzed through influencer deals to raise brand awareness. 

Social media ambassadors included artists, competitive shooters, and content creators like Nick 'Pew View' Johnson and former Arizona Republican Senate candidate Mark Lamb. 

But the acquisition of the headline-grabbing company couldn't keep Watchtower's finances afloat. 

They can "blame" whomever they want, but at that price-point, there's not a huge client base that can afford their products.  If you want to operate on that space, you'd better be dialed in.  Trying to astro-turf a client basis isn't going to work when there are so many competing companies that make a very similar product.  

Seems like they wanted the 1%ers with money to buy their overvalued product. ymmv

12 minutes ago, RPM said:

Seems like they wanted the 1%ers with money to buy their overvalued product. ymmv

They just needed better bumper stickers.

They can "blame" whomever they want, but at that price-point, there's not a huge client base that can afford their products.  If you want to operate on that space, you'd better be dialed in.  Trying to astro-turf a client basis isn't going to work when there are so many competing companies that make a very similar product.  

There is a huge demand in this segment. Production, we estimate, is 50% of the top and demand and growing.

Watchtower fucked this all up. Litigation everywhere and financial suicide internally.

We’ve been waiting on this. Battlehawk purchased most of their inventory/parts this morning. So check their site over the next week for goodies.
11 hours ago, Handcruser said:


There is a huge demand in this segment. Production, we estimate, is 50% of the top and demand and growing.

Watchtower fucked this all up. Litigation everywhere and financial suicide internally.

We’ve been waiting on this. Battlehawk purchased most of their inventory/parts this morning. So check their site over the next week for goodies.

For sure, it's a segment of the industry growing rapidly; which to your point, you better have your shit dialed in.  

For sure, it's a segment of the industry growing rapidly; which to your point, you better have your shit dialed in.  

Yeah and they didn’t lol. I mean that dude fucked it up in every possible way. Just egregious. F1 owners sued him a few months ago it was so bad.

But, they’re out of my way. So good for me.
1 minute ago, Handcruser said:


Yeah and they didn’t lol. I mean that dude fucked it up in every possible way. Just egregious. F1 owners sued him a few months ago it was so bad.

But, they’re out of my way. So good for me.

I remember this type of foolishness back in the dot.com days - every swinging deek with a website through they could just print money, and forget that a business is still a business

I remember this type of foolishness back in the dot.com days - every swinging deek with a website through they could just print money, and forget that a business is still a business

Staccato is in the middle of some stupid shit and poor decision making. But their owner is a brazillionaire so he’ll bail them out.
2 minutes ago, Handcruser said:


Staccato is in the middle of some stupid shit and poor decision making. But their owner is a brazillionaire so he’ll bail them out.

I don't think we're anywhere near market saturation, but demand is sky-high and it seems many of these companies are playing fast and loose.  What's Staccato doing now?

I don't think we're anywhere near market saturation, but demand is sky-high and it seems many of these companies are playing fast and loose.  What's Staccato doing now?

Putting unqualified people in key roles because they’re gun people and the owner likes them. After Nate left last year there was a bit of a power vacuum. Shit it was actually a coup really. Painful to watch unfold really.

Anyway - lots of new players coming on the scene. We’re actually incubating a lot of these smaller companies, keeping them focused on building guns and not buying boats. So far so good.

We’re the only ones doing this in the entire 2011 space - super cool.
10 minutes ago, Handcruser said:


Putting unqualified people in key roles because they’re gun people and the owner likes them. After Nate left last year there was a bit of a power vacuum. Shit it was actually a coup really. Painful to watch unfold really.

Anyway - lots of new players coming on the scene. We’re actually incubating a lot of these smaller companies, keeping them focused on building guns and not buying boats. So far so good.

We’re the only ones doing this in the entire 2011 space - super cool.

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2 hours ago, Handcruser said:


Putting unqualified people in key roles because they’re gun people and the owner likes them. After Nate left last year there was a bit of a power vacuum. Shit it was actually a coup really. Painful to watch unfold really.

Anyway - lots of new players coming on the scene. We’re actually incubating a lot of these smaller companies, keeping them focused on building guns and not buying boats. So far so good.

We’re the only ones doing this in the entire 2011 space - super cool.

Are you seeing any issues with Staccato quality, or is this just operational issues?  I'm in the market in a couple of months and don't want to step into a hornets nest...should I look at older production?

Are you seeing any issues with Staccato quality, or is this just operational issues?  I'm in the market in a couple of months and don't want to step into a hornets nest...should I look at older production?

No - not that I know of. They’re actuallly below industry average. What model are you looking at?
Best gun iv’e ever owned by far. Love it. No ragrets 
 
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That gun looks familiar lol. Atlas trigger ftw!
1 hour ago, Handcruser said:


No - not that I know of. They’re actuallly below industry average. What model are you looking at?

Current thinking is either the HD 4.5 when its out or the P / DLC-Comp.  I'm committed to playing, just not sure which hand to bet yet.

Current thinking is either the HD 4.5 when its out or the P / DLC-Comp.  I'm committed to playing, just not sure which hand to bet yet.

Understood.

If you want to discuss PM me.

There is also something else about to enter the market that’s pretty rad. I’ll have those out in 90 days.

Look at atlas silver pvd too. So dope.

I was in a Walmart yesterday and the location had ammo.   It still cracks me up that they sell 30-06 and .308 but not .223/5.56.  I can buy ammo for a BAR or an AR-10 but not an AR-15.

I was in a Walmart yesterday and the location had ammo.   It still cracks me up that they sell 30-06 and .308 but not .223/5.56.  I can buy ammo for a BAR or an AR-10 but not an AR-15.

Well an ar-10 is 5 less than an ar-15 so yeah
8 hours ago, Macanudo said:

I was in a Walmart yesterday and the location had ammo.   It still cracks me up that they sell 30-06 and .308 but not .223/5.56.  I can buy ammo for a BAR or an AR-10 but not an AR-15.

They got rid of 300 BLK but still stocked 350 Legend. 

They got rid of 300 BLK but still stocked 350 Legend. 

For states that require straight wall cartridges.

Cleaning out my parents’ house, going through old boxes and papers, found this gem:

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Woulda loved to have that Model 61.

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And found some pics of my grandfather in his trapping days. He worked the mountains of Mexico in the 1920s.

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He looked quite dapper in the knee high boots, and the newsboy cap. High style. He would be disappointed seeing you in black socks with Crocs.

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9 hours ago, CHIEF said:

He looked quite dapper in the knee high boots, and the newsboy cap. High style. He would be disappointed seeing you in black socks with Crocs.

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Men today dress like scarecrows.

13 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

And found some pics of my grandfather in his trapping days. He worked the mountains of Mexico in the 1920s.

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I carry a P7M8 regularly.  I have prepaid for the new M13.  Expecting delivery in a couple of months.  

In the mid-1950s when we were stationed in St. Louis, I “played Army” with a real BAR - it was a “bringback” from France by my dad in 1945.
It was a Belgian FN licensed copy of the Browning, but with a few modifications like the pistol grip and in 7.9mm.
We guess it was captured bythe Germans when they overran the Low Countries early in WW2, then recaptured by our GIs in ‘45.
Looked just like this one below.
It was pretty heavy lugging it around the woods behind our house, but nobody in the neighborhood gave it, or me, a second look.
 

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In the mid-1950s when we were stationed in St. Louis, I “played Army” with a real BAR - it was a “bringback” from France by my dad in 1945.
It was a Belgian FN licensed copy of the Browning, but with a few modifications like the pistol grip and in 7.9mm.
We guess it was captured bythe Germans when they overran the Low Countries early in WW2, then recaptured by our GIs in ‘45.
Looked just like this one below.
It was pretty heavy lugging it around the woods behind our house, but nobody in the neighborhood gave it, or me, a second look.
 
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So this probably got lost in an old boating accident on the Mississippi, didn’t it? And not packed away in cosmoline somewhere with a couple thousand rounds of mil-surp 7.9x57?
1 hour ago, davidg said:


So this probably got lost in an old boating accident on the Mississippi, didn’t it? And not packed away in cosmoline somewhere with a couple thousand rounds of mil-surp 7.9x57?

Nope……

My brother donated it to the Camp Mabry Military Museum in Austin about 25 years ago.
We checked on it about 10 years ago and their computer records said it was still stored in their vault. As far as we know it has never been put on display in any of the exhibits.

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