November 1Nov 1 I did the Hulu free trial to watch the game. The interface is absolute trash compared to Youtube TV.
November 1Nov 1 32 minutes ago, Horn_Spanker said: I made a makeshift antenna, game looked great. Fuck Disney! Coat hanger?
November 1Nov 1 Trying to cancel AND get a refund, so I'm online waiting in queue for a chat agent. Started out 290-ish in line, down to 183 in like an hour.....fuck-em I'll wait, I have that tab open next to a couple of free streams of games I should be watching on YTTV. I'll miss the multi-view, but I've overcome greater first world problems in my life. I'll persevere.
November 1Nov 1 1 hour ago, wood said: Coat hanger? If the signal is strong enough, a paper clip might also work.
November 1Nov 1 I was about to switch from Fubo to YTTV last month, but Fubo gave me $70 off to stay until mid-November. Looks like I'll stick with Fubo again.
November 1Nov 1 I'm fully cancelling Hulu immediately. This is just painful to use. The ESPN app also sucks shit. Works fine if you're using it as supplement to Youtube TV, terrible as a primary access point. Edited November 1Nov 1 by Dahobbs
November 1Nov 1 1 hour ago, Blotto said: Trying to cancel AND get a refund, so I'm online waiting in queue for a chat agent. Started out 290-ish in line, down to 183 in like an hour.....fuck-em I'll wait, I have that tab open next to a couple of free streams of games I should be watching on YTTV. I'll miss the multi-view, but I've overcome greater first world problems in my life. I'll persevere. This isn’t an alphabet problem it’s a mouse one
November 1Nov 1 55 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said: This isn’t an alphabet problem it’s a mouse one Lulz. Disney owns the content. YTTV is blockbuster. If they cant provide me with the content I want, it sure as hell isnt my fucking problem. Youtube sent me an email on Oct 30.... that blue hyperlink is sending me to a portal to sign up for the disney bundle. They aren't trying to fix the problem that hard if they are happy to have me sign up with disney. I'm sick of their fucking bullshit and relentless price increases. Its estimated Disney charges cable and streaming companies $10 per month per customer. YTTV charges me $90 per month for a bunch of garbage channels/stations i don't give a fuck about. You can say its not a alphabet problem, but we'll see when they lose a fuck-ton of subscribers. We all know they will cave, but I'm not paying them a nickel until they do cave. It now has zero value to me. And done....took three hours, but they processed the refund. They made $100B in net income last year, I'm sure they will be fine. Edited November 1Nov 1 by Blotto
November 1Nov 1 I have the espn/hulu/disney bundle. Why can’t I watch abc on one of those? Am I doing something wrong?
November 1Nov 1 42 minutes ago, Blotto said: Lulz. Disney owns the content. YTTV is blockbuster. If they cant provide me with the content I want, it sure as hell isnt my fucking problem. Youtube sent me an email on Oct 30.... that blue hyperlink is sending me to a portal to sign up for the disney bundle. They aren't trying to fix the problem that hard if they are happy to have me sign up with disney. I'm sick of their fucking bullshit and relentless price increases. Its estimated Disney charges cable and streaming companies $10 per month per customer. YTTV charges me $90 per month for a bunch of garbage channels/stations i don't give a fuck about. You can say it’s not an alphabet problem, but we'll see when they lose a fuck-ton of subscribers. We all know they will cave, but I'm not paying them a nickel until they do cave. It now has zero value to me Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said.
November 1Nov 1 Just now, hobbes2702 said: Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said. So why is it a Disney problem?
November 1Nov 1 12 hours ago, mrhorn said: What IPTV service are you using? I’ve used Smarters in the past and had zero complaints Late reply but I'm using IPTVX using the theTVapp url on my Apple tv. Paid the $4 for this month and will see how it goes. Nice by product is I now have HBO and Showtime for a month.
November 1Nov 1 2 minutes ago, Blotto said: So why is it a Disney problem? Because they openly don’t want to offer their content to providers. They’ve made clear they only want to offer their content on their platforms. The value of platforms offering content from multiple creators and providers seems pretty obvious. Edited November 1Nov 1 by hobbes2702
November 1Nov 1 Just now, hobbes2702 said: Because they openly don’t want to offer their content to providers. They’ve made clear they only want to offer their content on their platforms. well then that sounds like a YTTV problem.
November 1Nov 1 1 minute ago, Blotto said: well then that sounds like a YTTV problem. You sound like an old person. Wouldn’t it be great if we had to pay Disney directly for their stuff, and Fox directly for theirs, and paramount directly for theirs, and on and on and on. Edited November 1Nov 1 by hobbes2702
November 1Nov 1 1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said: You sound like an old person why is that? Because I dont want to pay $90 a month for a service that has no value to me? How does age factor into that? Edited November 1Nov 1 by Blotto
November 1Nov 1 Just now, Blotto said: why is that? Because I dont want to pay $90 a month for a service that has no value to me? How does age factor into that? Because you don’t understand
November 1Nov 1 "Why is everything so expensive? Also, monopolies seem like the other company's problem. No, I don't understand why I'm an idiot." Average American, 2025
November 1Nov 1 36 minutes ago, Hammerin Hank said: I have the espn/hulu/disney bundle. Why can’t I watch abc on one of those? Am I doing something wrong? Dealing with this bullshit too
November 1Nov 1 Thank you espn for freeing up my Saturday evening. I’ll be damned if I’m watching B1G football. I’d rather count my ass hair.
November 1Nov 1 39 minutes ago, Hammerin Hank said: I have the espn/hulu/disney bundle. Why can’t I watch abc on one of those? Am I doing something wrong? You probably have the bundle with ESPN+, not the ESPN unlimited bundle. I'm in the same boat. Watching ABC via OTA antenna, because I'm not rewarding Disney for fucking shit up during football season - especially after just raising prices.
November 1Nov 1 The way around on this is not to drop YTTV. It’s to drop everything Disney. easier said than done of course.
November 1Nov 1 1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said: The way around on this is not to drop YTTV. It’s to drop everything Disney. easier said than done of course. I strongly second this, although I know I’m not strong enough to do it
November 2Nov 2 47 minutes ago, Hammerin Hank said: I have the espn/hulu/disney bundle. Why can’t I watch abc on one of those? Am I doing something wrong? 11 minutes ago, tx ind said: Dealing with this bullshit too 5 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said: You probably have the bundle with ESPN+, not the ESPN unlimited bundle. I'm in the same boat. Watching ABC via OTA antenna, because I'm not rewarding Disney for fucking shit up during football season - especially after just raising prices. It's because y'all touch yourselves. Had to walk my mother through this earlier. Assuming you're wanting to watch a game on ABC and have a Hulu sub, open/download the espn app on your TV, go to settings, click "login through tv provider," it'll give you a code. Use your phone or laptop and go to espn.com/activate. Enter the code and your credentials for hulu, then viola. Even espn customer service couldn't help my mom when she first tried purchasing a espn+ sub lol.
November 2Nov 2 6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said: The way around on this is not to drop YTTV. It’s to drop everything Disney. easier said than done of course. Yttv needs to drop their rate accordingly if there’s no Disney owned stuff.
November 2Nov 2 24 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: "Why is everything so expensive? Also, monopolies seem like the other company's problem. No, I don't understand why I'm an idiot." Average American, 2025 Exactly 25 minutes ago, Blotto said: so explain it to me. 25 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: "Why is everything so expensive? Also, monopolies seem like the other company's problem. No, I don't understand why I'm an idiot." Average American, 2025 Since you are having trouble
November 2Nov 2 I like YouTube TV. I like multi view, the unlimited library, the easy use, etc. I have Sunday Ticket. People can complain about the price increases but I paid $220 for AT&T U-verse the year before I canceled and got YTTV. Even at $90 a month, they've been saving me money while giving me the same content. I'll wait this one out until the football season ends. Between an HD antenna, online streams, and friends' logins, I can manage. But I really hope YTTV breaks ESPN. ESPN/ABC have had the highest rated games every single weekend lately. No matter how much they want to drive the app, lower ratings aren't gonna look good. Curious to see where the three big ABC games today end up in the ratings.
November 2Nov 2 Got rid of my subscription last night. Looks like everyone I've talked to is going to Sling or Hulu
November 2Nov 2 54 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said: Exactly Since you are having trouble Answer the question.
November 2Nov 2 5 hours ago, Dahobbs said: I did the Hulu free trial to watch the game. The interface is absolute trash compared to Youtube TV. agreed. No mulitview, impossible to get back to the previous channel. just crap compared to Fubo and YTTV
November 2Nov 2 1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said: The way around on this is not to drop YTTV. It’s to drop everything Disney. easier said than done of course. Ill drop disney if you drop disney first
November 2Nov 2 29 minutes ago, Slater said: Got rid of my subscription last night. Looks like everyone I've talked to is going to Sling or Hulu Fubos better than both. Sling doesnt have locals besides very limited markets. Neither have multiview
November 2Nov 2 1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said: Exactly Since you are having trouble Oh I get Disney's role in the enshittification of streaming, I just stated that its a YTTV problem, because they are the distributor that chose to no longer carry the product that I, and presumably plenty of others, wish to consume(live sports). There are still plenty of other cable/streaming options that offer ESPN should I choose to go that route, or I can pay Disney directly, or I can pirate shit. But it makes zero sense is continue to pay YTTV $80 a month when they can't deliver what I am paying them for, when they send me an email telling me to subscribe directly to ESPN (but still pay them $80). I guess if refusing to pay Company A for shit I don't want, when I could instead buy from companies B,C,D,E, etc... and get what I want makes me an old, I'll pop a centrum silver. Imagine crying about google getting bullied.
November 2Nov 2 1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said: You sound like an old person. Wouldn’t it be great if we had to pay Disney directly for their stuff, and Fox directly for theirs, and paramount directly for theirs, and on and on and on. Yes. Actually that is better. You can pay for the shit you want. Not a bunch of shit you don’t. As the main reason most of us have YTTV is for the sports. They offer, used to, the best grouping of content. 1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said: Because you don’t understand I kind of think you don’t in this instance. This is the owners(billionaires) and players(millionaires) arguing over revenue sharing when we just want to watch the games.
November 2Nov 2 1 minute ago, Blotto said: Oh I get Disney's role in the enshittification of streaming, I just stated that its a YTTV problem, because they are the distributor that chose to no longer carry the product that I, and presumably plenty of others, wish to consume(live sports). There are still plenty of other cable/streaming options that offer ESPN should I choose to go that route, or I can pay Disney directly, or I can pirate shit. But it makes zero sense is continue to pay YTTV $80 a month when they can't deliver what I am paying them for, when they send me an email telling me to subscribe directly to ESPN (but still pay them $80). I guess if refusing to pay Company A for shit I don't want, when I could instead buy from companies B,C,D,E, etc... and get what I want makes me an old, I'll pop a centrum silver. Imagine crying about google getting bullied. Who’s crying about Google getting bullied? You got upset that I said it was a mouse problem because it is. Monopolies are bad.
November 2Nov 2 Never been more excited about having antenna service only at deer camp.Awesome day. Got my deer skinned while watching Horns put belt to ass via ANTENNA.
November 2Nov 2 35 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said: Who’s crying about Google getting bullied? You got upset that I said it was a mouse problem because it is. Monopolies are bad. That ship sailed decades ago, and you could argue their monopoly (which is bad, I agree) is now weakening with the advent of streaming companies (Apple, Amazon, Netflix, etc...) with more financial muscle than the old broadcast networks getting into the live sports content game. But this current dustup has less to do with their monopoly and more to do with two companies flexing nuts while fucking over the customers in the process. Disney will win in this case because the loyalty will follow the content, not the pipe. Hence it being YTTV's problem. Im not sure we're even arguing the same thing, but whatever, I'm off to the card room.
November 2Nov 2 37 minutes ago, Both Tacos said: Awesome day. Got my deer skinned while watching Horns put belt to ass via ANTENNA. I'm no expert but I think the blood is supposed to be in the bucket.
November 2Nov 2 I did fubo 5 day trial. Gets me espn this weekend buys 4 more days to get resolved. Will sling for 5 bucks next weekend if needed.
November 2Nov 2 8 minutes ago, millhouse said: Coax splitter + antenna = multiview A man of culture! Modern problems call for modern solutions!
November 2Nov 2 3 hours ago, Blotto said: why is that? Because I dont want to pay $90 a month for a service that has no value to me? How does age factor into that? The young’s don’t blink at pissing money away for no reason. See doordash / ubereats etc. Then they whine about why they’re so broke all the time.
November 2Nov 2 8 hours ago, Dahobbs said: I did the Hulu free trial to watch the game. The interface is absolute trash compared to Youtube TV. Yeah, even finding the fucking game took a minute. I looked but have no idea if multi-screen is even possible. YTTV offers that shit up when switching games and allows for "custom" builds. I'm not sucking any YTTV ass but it's absolutely superior for sports.
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