November 13Nov 13 5 hours ago, Horn Dog said: If they reduce the price than I probably will stay, but only cause I already get ESPN/Disney/Hulu for free via a legacy Verizon plan. Honestly my health has improved by not being able to watch Texas Football live and just watching highlights later. Craig Way radio on 1300 The Zone, is the “Way” to go…..free.
November 13Nov 13 I already switched over, mouse has a nice bundle going on right now. ESPN unlimited + Hulu + Disney plus for $39 per month.
November 13Nov 13 1 minute ago, Vertigo said: I already switched over, mouse has a nice bundle going on right now. ESPN unlimited + Hulu + Disney plus for $39 per month. Of course they do.
November 13Nov 13 Until they don’t when it goes up. I dumped that Disney Hulu bundle a few months ago. If I switch from yttv it will be direct tv or fubo.
November 13Nov 13 On my second 5-day trial of DirecTV streaming with a different email. Waiting it out until YouTubeTV either figures it out or doesn’t. DirecTV streaming isn’t bad. Stream quality seems better than YTTV but I miss the interface. Edited November 13Nov 13 by Wilcox Cummingtonite
November 14Nov 14 I did a FUBO trail for the Vandy game then cancelled within the 5 day trail. I received an email today from FUBO offering $70 off for the first full month with the pro package with sports package. Total was about 109, but minus the 70 bucks and no obligation after the first month. I am waiting until tomorrow, but I am going with that option for a month so the YTTV shit to get worked out.
November 14Nov 14 2 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said: Craig Way radio on 1300 The Zone, is the “Way” to go…..free. Even if you can watch it on TV, mute Herbie’s bitch ass and listen to Craig “Texas moving left to right, in the white jerseys, white pants and white helmet” is so much better than Herbie whining about someone’s pants length Edited November 14Nov 14 by Js1
November 14Nov 14 6 hours ago, Horn Dog said: Well Disney better be careful or else Google is gonna just start/buy up some sports channel and get in the sports broadcasting business themselves. They have the $$ to do it and are not just gonna sit idly by and let their enterprise go bankrupt. They can start a sports channel and get in the broadcasting business if they are morons, but without the multi-year media rights to college football, college hoops, the NFL, the NBA, MLB, etc...what the fuck are they going to show that people will pay for? The Big10 media rights come up for renewal in 2030, the SEC in 2034, the NBA in 2037, the NFL in 2033, etc.. I guess they can send this guy out with a camera and hope nobody notices him on the sideline It amuses me that people think YTTV has much leverage here. They are one of many distribution channels for the ESPN suite. Without details on what pricing is currently being rejected by YTTV and the pricing paid by the other streaming/cable channels its a bit hard to say who is being the bigger asshole here. But at the end of the day, Disney owns the content, and that is leverage that matters. If YTTV wants special pricing that would cause Disney to have to renegotiate their other deals, I would tell google to eat a dick as well. People will follow the content and that lost money this qtr will slowly come back as people migrate to different solutions. Edited November 14Nov 14 by Blotto
November 14Nov 14 6 hours ago, immamac said: Celis? Bruh... we're taking my son and his friends to the Crossover (may as well be Lubbock) for his birthday. So far away. At least they have a giant TV outside.
November 14Nov 14 18 minutes ago, texasdago said: Bruh... we're taking my son and his friends to the Crossover (may as well be Lubbock) for his birthday. So far away. At least they have a giant TV outside. Holy shit that's far.
November 14Nov 14 On 11/12/2025 at 6:22 AM, Nicole44 said: Then they got sidetracked by some girl in high school that had two vaginas nicknamed Double Barrel Sheryl wait just a goddamn minute... what?
November 14Nov 14 7 minutes ago, Rimbo said: wait just a goddamn minute... what? Ha. I actually googled the phrase "Double Barrel Cheryl" to see if I could catch that clip, and I guess it's origin was some dude on the Theo Von show. But the funnier aspect is the first google result was some poor broad with that unfortunate insta handle. I imagine she might see an increase in traffic and interesting commentary on her posts https://www.instagram.com/doublebarrelcheryl/
November 14Nov 14 3 minutes ago, Blotto said: https://www.instagram.com/doublebarrelcheryl/ she seems cray-cray. no thanks
November 14Nov 14 59 minutes ago, immamac said: Holy shit that's far. You're telling me. SW Austin to there is a beating.
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, Blotto said: They can start a sports channel and get in the broadcasting business if they are morons, but without the multi-year media rights to college football, college hoops, the NFL, the NBA, MLB, etc...what the fuck are they going to show that people will pay for? The Big10 media rights come up for renewal in 2030, the SEC in 2034, the NBA in 2037, the NFL in 2033, etc.. I guess they can send this guy out with a camera and hope nobody notices him on the sideline It amuses me that people think YTTV has much leverage here. They are one of many distribution channels for the ESPN suite. Without details on what pricing is currently being rejected by YTTV and the pricing paid by the other streaming/cable channels its a bit hard to say who is being the bigger asshole here. But at the end of the day, Disney owns the content, and that is leverage that matters. If YTTV wants special pricing that would cause Disney to have to renegotiate their other deals, I would tell google to eat a dick as well. People will follow the content and that lost money this qtr will slowly come back as people migrate to different solutions. Well yea Disney has the leverage now and Google is gonna have to cave on this fight. What I am saying is medium/long term, Google may decide to bite back if Disney pushes something unreasonable. 2030, 2033, 2034 is not that far away and they could make things difficult for ESPN/Disney if Google decides to throw their weight around. Disney is getting into the streaming business to compete against YTTV, however YTTV could also get in the sports broadcasting business to compete against Disney. Obviously not gonna work short term, but on a medium term, Disney could find themselves fucked if they try to push too hard. Edited November 14Nov 14 by Horn Dog
November 14Nov 14 20 minutes ago, Horn Dog said: Well yea Disney has the leverage now and Google is gonna have to cave on this fight. What I am saying is medium/long term, Google may decide to bite back if Disney pushes something unreasonable. 2030, 2033, 2034 is not that far away and they could make things difficult for ESPN/Disney if Google decides to throw their weight around. Disney is getting into the streaming business to compete against YTTV, however YTTV could also get in the sports broadcasting business to compete against Disney. Obviously not gonna work short term, but on a medium term, Disney could find themselves fucked if they try to push too hard. Disney FY revenue for 2025 was $94.4 Billion. Alphabet quarterly revenue for for Q3 was $102.35 Billion.
November 14Nov 14 2 minutes ago, texasdago said: Disney FY revenue for 2025 was $94.4 Billion. Alphabet quarterly revenue for for Q3 was $102.35 Billion. They're gonna have to sell a shitload more Dole Whips I guess.
November 14Nov 14 1 minute ago, texasdago said: Disney FY revenue for 2025 was $94.4 Billion. Alphabet quarterly revenue for for Q3 was $102.35 Billion. True, but where is Alphabet going to find the level of on the air talent hired by the Mouse and the reason why everyone watches ESPN and not the content.
November 14Nov 14 10 hours ago, Horn Dog said: I mean this is my bill for last month and this is before the upcoming $20 credit. If they want to charge me $30 then I am staying.. How tf are you only paying $50/month for YTTV?
November 14Nov 14 19 minutes ago, ZanTheFan said: How tf are you only paying $50/month for YTTV? A few months ago they sent me an email offering $30 off a month for like 6 months without any conditions on my part and I said sure. Then my bill went down to $49 and next month they are giving me extra $20 credit. So if I am paying $29/month I am sticking around for awhile.
November 14Nov 14 51 minutes ago, PGFrog said: True, but where is Alphabet going to find the level of on the air talent hired by the Mouse and the reason why everyone watches ESPN and not the content. I know I know. Maybe they'll find the next Pat McAfee.
November 14Nov 14 23 minutes ago, Horn Dog said: A few months ago they sent me an email offering $30 off a month for like 6 months without any conditions on my part and I said sure. Then my bill went down to $49 and next month they are giving me extra $20 credit. So if I am paying $29/month I am sticking around for awhile. I did that too. Saw it in the cord cutters thread. I’m wondering now if they knew this was coming.
November 14Nov 14 22 minutes ago, Horn Dog said: A few months ago they sent me an email offering $30 off a month for like 6 months without any conditions on my part and I said sure. Then my bill went down to $49 and next month they are giving me extra $20 credit. So if I am paying $29/month I am sticking around for awhile. As an FYI, that particular method of redaction isn't terribly effective. You'll want to use a proper redaction tool that actually removes the information entirely rather than attempt to merely cover it up.
November 14Nov 14 I still haven't decided who I will switch to when my billing comes up on 11/28. I've been leaning towards Direct TV streaming after reading some of the reviews here. I like YTTV, but I don't see any possible way it's going to go back to what it was before with the Mouse without a substantial price increase. Also, is the YTTV/NBC Sports partnership for real or some kind of ploy to pressure Disney? Never mind about the NBC Sports question. Looks like it starts on 11/17, and it's B1G and Notre Dame for college sports. Furk Edited November 14Nov 14 by Mr.Hovis I got the olds
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, Mr.Hovis said: Never mind about the NBC Sports question. Looks like it starts on 11/17, and it's B1G and Notre Dame for college sports. Furk NBC sports network channel isnt exclusive to YTTV, its just the first carrier to launch. Xfinity will be next, and they have already stated they will try to sign up multiple carriers, probably every one they can. Its tough to sell advertising when you cap your audience at ~10M households. And the big ten conference splits their games between Fox, CBS, and NBC Fox: Will air games in the "Big Noon" window and alternate years for the championship game. Fox also has majority ownership of the Big Ten Network. CBS: Will air games in the afternoon slot, including a Black Friday game, and alternate years for the championship game. NBC: Will air games in the primetime "Big Ten Saturday Night" slot and alternate years for the championship game. Peacock: Will exclusively stream some games each season and simulcast some games that also appear on the NBC broadcast network. Big Ten Network (BTN): Continues to air a comprehensive slate of games in addition to the broadcast and streaming options. The "big ten sat night" is already on the main NBC network, so all you are likely gaining on the new sports network are the games on Peacock, which will now likely be simulcast on their new network. I cant imagine this would pressure Disney at all. As they now offer a subscription bundle ($40) with Fox that gives you access to all ESPN networks, the SEC networks, Fox sports, FS1, FS2, and Big Ten network. Thats at least 20X more sports than this new NBC channel will have, when you consider its all of the ESPN+ games as well.
November 14Nov 14 I still haven't decided who I will switch to when my billing comes up on 11/28. I've been leaning towards Direct TV streaming after reading some of the reviews here. I like YTTV, but I don't see any possible way it's going to go back to what it was before with the Mouse without a substantial price increase. Also, is the YTTV/NBC Sports partnership for real or some kind of ploy to pressure Disney? Never mind about the NBC Sports question. Looks like it starts on 11/17, and it's B1G and Notre Dame for college sports. Furk Directv stream is nice. They just have too many tricks and gimmicks to make your bill high. You have to stay on top of them. Never just a flat rate cut and dry.
November 14Nov 14 YTTV is my favorite interface I have ever used for TV, and it is almost solely a winning score for them because of Saturdays and the quad screens for college football. They took something I have loved most of my life and made it better. While that feature still exists, the programming does not, so fuck the mouse and its engineering of its business. I have disliked ESPN for a long time and pretty much only have it on for game coverage. In the end, fuck em all. I don't have to pay any of the providers to watch content. MLB baseball has fucked me as a fan for the last 6 seasons, by not letting me watch my favorite team on their package, for which I would LOVE to pay them. I still watch about 120 games per season, but not through MLB. I ain't paying if I can't watch what I want. and I'm not gonna get gouged because someone thinks they are entitled to my bucks, ya fucking mouse. Edited November 14Nov 14 by Iceman
November 14Nov 14 22 minutes ago, texasdago said: Someone needs to validate this but Disney is not the good guy here... BTW... YTTV streaming inflation from July 2020 - today is about 30%
November 14Nov 14 30 minutes ago, Iceman said: YTTV is my favorite interface I have ever used for TV, and it is almost solely a winning score for them because of Saturdays and the quad screens for college football. They took something I have loved most of my life and made it better. While that feature still exists, the programming does not, so fuck the mouse and its engineering of its business. I have disliked ESPN for a long time and pretty much only have it on for game coverage. In the end, fuck em all. I don't have to pay any of the providers to watch content. MLB baseball has fucked me as a fan for the last 6 seasons, by not letting me watch my favorite team on their package, for which I would LOVE to pay them. I still watch about 120 games per season, but not through MLB. C I ain't paying if I can't watch what I want. and I'm not gonna get gouged because someone thinks they are entitled to my bucks, ya fucking mouse. I was happily paying for both YT and ESPN+. Now, fuck Disney+, ESPN, Hulu, Fubu and anything else by Disney. If they want to platform themselves, fine, do it and I'll decide if it's worthwhile/better than YT when it's done. Disney doesn't value it's customers, and haven't for a long time. I'm done with them.
November 14Nov 14 Someone from r/cfb compiled this I had yttv for the past couple months but outside of cfb and the MLB playoffs/world series I never watched a thing. Corporate news is complete garbage and I haven't regularly watched it for 20 years. It makes viewer dumber. I don't know what hulu live costs these days but I think I get a $30/month subsidy through amex. Maybe I'll sign up for that on Saturday.
November 14Nov 14 FWIW it was suggested above regarding Fubo, and I've confirmed it works. As long as you sign up with a different email, you can get five more days free with Fubo even if you use your same name, address, IP, etc.
November 14Nov 14 4 hours ago, Iceman said: YTTV is my favorite interface I have ever used for TV, and it is almost solely a winning score for them because of Saturdays and the quad screens for college football. They took something I have loved most of my life and made it better. While that feature still exists, the programming does not, so fuck the mouse and its engineering of its business. I have disliked ESPN for a long time and pretty much only have it on for game coverage. In the end, fuck em all. I don't have to pay any of the providers to watch content. MLB baseball has fucked me as a fan for the last 6 seasons, by not letting me watch my favorite team on their package, for which I would LOVE to pay them. I still watch about 120 games per season, but not through MLB. I ain't paying if I can't watch what I want. and I'm not gonna get gouged because someone thinks they are entitled to my bucks, ya fucking mouse. I use a VPN & watch it on MLB TV. What's your trick?
November 14Nov 14 3 hours ago, texasdago said: Someone needs to validate this but Disney is not the good guy here... 3 hours ago, texasdago said: BTW... YTTV streaming inflation from July 2020 - today is about 30% That's crazy. Fuck the Mouse.
November 14Nov 14 3 hours ago, texasdago said: Someone needs to validate this but Disney is not the good guy here... Hard to say whether those figures are accurate or not as Netflix looks a little low to me which is why I ultimately dropped it. but college and pro sports are in an inflationary supercyle themselves (NIL, salaries of pro players and coaches, new facilities, etc...) and one of the main ways they seek to pay for that is to encourage bidding wars every time their media contracts comes up for renewal. College fans want the best players, the best coaches, and the best facilities, but that all comes at a cost and your cable/streaming bill is a major contributor that helps pay for the ridiculous spending frenzy. ESPN's previous SEC media deal was about 155 million dollars a year. The lastest SEC media deal is 300 million a year. That's why Texas changed conferences....they desperately need that money. But its a little disingenuous for fans of those schools to turn around and bitch about the networks that absorb those price increases and then raise their prices in response. No free rides when the entire economy seems to be in an inflationary bubble. Its all interconnected and probably due for a hard reset, which I wont hate. Paying fucking meathead coaches $10M a year has its downsides. And its not like ESPN is more profitable now than it was 10 years ago. I had ChatGPT do the legwork because I aint digging through 10 years of disney earning reports.... Quote 4. Putting it all together (what you can safely say) If you want a quick “ESPN profit over time” narrative that’s grounded in actual disclosures: 2010s (pre-2019) ESPN was an absolute cash machine, doing roughly $3–4B a year in operating profit, contributing the bulk of the Media Networks/Cable Networks profit. The Walt Disney Company+1 2019–2022 Disney stops breaking out ESPN directly and buckets it into larger TV segments. ESPN remains profitable but under pressure (cord-cutting, big rights renewals) while still growing revenue and operating income domestically in 2022 and 2023. The Walt Disney Company+1 We do not have precise ESPN-only annual profit figures. 2023 Disney previews ESPN/Sports finances: first nine months show $13.2B revenue, nearly $1.5B operating income. Deadline 2024–2025 (clean numbers, ESPN-anchored Sports segment) The Walt Disney Company+1 2024: Sports revenue ≈ $17.6B, operating income ≈ $2.41B 2025: Sports revenue ≈ $17.7B, operating income ≈ $2.88B So if you’re building a mental model (or a valuation model): Treat Sports segment operating income (2024 onward) as essentially “ESPN profit” with some noise from smaller sports assets. For earlier years, you can only use segment-level proxies and external estimates; there is no clean ESPN line item in Disney’s public financials.
November 14Nov 14 What's better to do the free trial then? Fubo or DirectTV stream?I’ve liked Fubo since switching over from YTTV.I’ll get my free Apple TV today in the mailMultiview on Fubo is better than YTTVThe dvr/fast forward is better on YTTVGuide is also customizable so put your favorite channels on top and sort them by category. I think navigating both guides are easyFubo has my regional fan duel sports channel, YTTV doesn’t so I’d have to swap between appsI also believe you need Apple TV to get the best Fubo experience. If you use your tvs hardware built in apps, you don’t get Multiview but you do on Apple tv which is kinda corny
November 14Nov 14 Fuck Fubo. You’re just helping Disney.I’m going to Disney world in like 7 months. Idgaf
November 14Nov 14 27 minutes ago, wood said: I use a VPN & watch it on MLB TV. What's your trick? i get MLB included with my cell phone plan and live outside of my favorite team's region 24 minutes ago, wood said: That's crazy. Fuck the Mouse. this seems to be the general r/cfb consensus
November 14Nov 14 I have 0 insider knowledge here, but I would expect that the YTTV negotiating angle isn't just about TV/content distribution rights (because they don't have a leg to stand on), but rather strategic application of leverage either in search/ads to benefit the Mouse, or in cloud / hosting / infrastructure benefits to same.
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, wood said: I use a VPN & watch it on MLB TV. What's your trick? I stream the games. Have done so since moving from Houston. https://streamed.su/category/baseball
November 14Nov 14 7 minutes ago, Iceman said: I stream the games. Have done so since moving from Houston. https://streamed.su/category/baseball My firewall said "fuck outta here"
November 14Nov 14 2 minutes ago, markstanco said: My firewall said "fuck outta here" I used that link all season. No worries. You get 2 ads, and on the 3rd time it opens up. If they're gonna steal my shit, they're patient as hell. Edited November 14Nov 14 by Iceman
November 14Nov 14 16 minutes ago, Iceman said: I used that link all season. No worries. You get 2 ads, and on the 3rd time it opens up. If they're gonna steal my shit, they're patient as hell. No Sonicwall at my house.
November 14Nov 14 6 hours ago, texasdago said: Someone needs to validate this but Disney is not the good guy here... Yeah, its some bullshit. We already had disney+ for the kids, and I got the bundle with ESPN and Hulu for $1 per month more than disney plus by itself. Then I canceled yttv and saved myself $80. Bandaid for a year, but I will just cancel it later.
November 14Nov 14 Caving in and signing up for espn unlimited or fubo gives Disney exactly what it wants- cut out the service provider and hastens everyone having to buy each streaming service à la carte. I want as few apps as possible because it sucks going back and forth between streaming services. I’ll give YTTV another week or 2 to figure this out and go with sling day pass and antenna until then. I can tell you right now that if this weren’t happening during CFB season I could go several months without giving 2 shits if I got espn and abc.
November 14Nov 14 23 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said: I can tell you right now that if this weren’t happening during CFB season I could go several months without giving 2 shits if I got espn and abc. Disney already knows this....
November 14Nov 14 1 hour ago, Billy Pilgrim said: I can tell you right now that if this weren’t happening during CFB season I could go several months without giving 2 shits if I got espn and abc. Truth. Sling day pass until we're out of playoff contention, and then Sling weekend pass for a few weekends in the spring when we have compelling baseball/softball series, or if I can't attend regionals/SRs. I suspect by then, Sling will jack their shit up too and we can bitch about that in the enshittification thread.
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