May 25, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, Dbeasy said: This is such a depressing thread. From dozens of great rock bands in the 70’s and 80’s to nada. That is what your parents/grandparent said about big and swing.
May 25, 20187 yr I humbly submit Spoon. And maybe not 'rock', but Old 97s and Turnpike Troubadours put on some of the best shows I've seen in the last few years.
May 25, 20187 yr 14 hours ago, Apep said: I wouldn't put Nirvana on my list because I view punk and metal as offshoots and not subsets of rock when I think about lists like this. They're too punk. Muse (from my list) started out a little too metal, but are now firmly within a rock mainstream. Foo Fighters would fit as a rock band. The subset view would be easier. For the love of God, don't mention Nirvana and Muse in the same paragraph ever again. I kinda feel like we're at the point where if there is a guitar and/or bass and actual drums, it's "rock" music. I know I'm old now because 1) I'm finally a man because I turned 40 and 2) I just do NOT understand the appeal of the soundcloud xanax emo rap shit. I read this interview with Dave Grohl and he had this to say: Quote “It depends how you define punk rock,” says Grohl. “You know who Lil Pump is?” he asks. Actually I do, I say, somewhat proudly. He’s the so-called “Soundcloud rap star” who overdosed on Xanax and coke late last year. “No. That was Lil Peep. Lil Pump is from the same genre, that slow-cooked emo hip hop thing. Anyway, he has a song called ‘Gucci Gang’. It’s hilarious, the video has tigers and bags of weed and blue Lamborghinis in it. Yet for my eldest daughter, Lil Pump is punk rock. In 2018, music doesn’t – and shouldn’t – sound like it did when I was 14. I guess for me punk rock is about a state of independence and if that’s Lil Pump then so be it. It’s about being free to do whatever the hell you want to do.” That being said, I think he's totally wrong, but it's subjective anyway
May 25, 20187 yr Muse. I've seen them like 3x and they are an amazing show every time. To get that amount of sound from 3 dudes is ridiculous. Also, they understand the importance of musical foreplay.
May 25, 20187 yr 33 minutes ago, irishtexan said: For the love of God, don't mention Nirvana and Muse in the same paragraph ever again. I kinda feel like we're at the point where if there is a guitar and/or bass and actual drums, it's "rock" music. I know I'm old now because 1) I'm finally a man because I turned 40 and 2) I just do NOT understand the appeal of the soundcloud xanax emo rap shit. I read this interview with Dave Grohl and he had this to say: That being said, I think he's totally wrong, but it's subjective anyway he's crazy. how anyone can call that rock... i don't know.
May 25, 20187 yr Does it matter if it's rock? (Not talking about this thread, but to Dave Grohl's point.) I'm not sure I'd draw too much of a link between Lil Pump and punk rock but the point is valid. It's music young kids listen to that their parents hate. Old book, next chapter.
May 25, 20187 yr Nirvana literally changed the direction of music. There are a SMALL handful of bands/musicians that accomplished this.
May 25, 20187 yr NiN ?? Been thinking about the dearth of new "classic rock bands" Listen to these with your eyes closed..... they have a few good songs... we will see if they can do anything else but expertly and blatantly rip off Zeppelin.
May 25, 20187 yr 22 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said: Nirvana literally changed the direction of music. There are a SMALL handful of bands/musicians that accomplished this. Agree, but it still doesn't make them "the best" which is entirely subjective anyway. But I'll always be grateful to Nirvana for making "Smells Like Teen Spirit" the runaway hit of Spring Break 1992 and enabling me to meet, dance with, and hook up with a hot Brazilian chick at Charlie's on South Padre Island.
May 25, 20187 yr 40 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Does it matter if it's rock? (Not talking about this thread, but to Dave Grohl's point.) if you're defining rock from a musical point of view it doesn't fit. there's the element of rebellion and antiestablishmentarianism sure, but that's not enough to classify it as punk rock, since it has to satisfy a musical standard as well.
May 25, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, gsoda3 said: if you're defining rock from a musical point of view it doesn't fit. there's the element of rebellion and antiestablishmentarianism sure, but that's not enough to classify it as punk rock, since it has to satisfy a musical standard as well. Sure, and I don't think Grohl was saying it is another flavor of The Sex Pistols. He's just saying it has supplanted punk rock with today's youth. He obviously gets that it's a stretch if you want to be completely rigorous. He said "it depends on how you define 'punk rock'".
May 25, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Sure, and I don't think Grohl was saying it is another flavor of The Sex Pistols. He's just saying it has supplanted punk rock with today's youth. He obviously gets that it's a stretch if you want to be completely rigorous. He said "it depends on how you define 'punk rock'". yeah, i think his definition is lacking but i'm not going to get the chance to tell him that. Quote I guess for me punk rock is about a state of independence and if that’s Lil Pump then so be it.
May 25, 20187 yr 14 hours ago, 4th&Five said: There are plenty of great rock bands out there. You just won’t hear them on the radio. This is of course 100% true. I guess I just lament the fact that you have to go searching for it, whereas when I was growing up all I had to do was turn on the radio to hear great rock music. The good news is it doesn't take too much effort to find it. In fact I get a lot of great recs from Shaggy/Surly.
May 25, 20187 yr 15 hours ago, 4th&Five said: There are plenty of great rock bands out there. You just won’t hear them on the radio. What's a radio?
May 25, 20187 yr 12 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said: That is what your parents/grandparent said about big and swing. Pretty sure both sets of my grandparents were convinced Elvis was the devil.
May 25, 20187 yr My list is more like after 1995, but:My Morning JacketSpoonDan Auerbach’s workDr. DogModest Mouse
May 25, 20187 yr There's a bunch of good ones that come to mind: Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Alice In Chains, Tool, STP, Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, NIN, RATM, Toadies, Dream Theater, Muse, Deftones, Radiohead, Weezer, Janes Addiction, Collective Soul, Blackberry Smoke, CCR, Etc etc etc.... My pick out of that list would be Alice In Chains over Nirvana only because I like their music better.
May 25, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, Gardner Barnes said: Nirvana literally changed the direction of music. There are a SMALL handful of bands/musicians that accomplished this. Their mega spark of initial fame in 91/92 did definitely change the direction of how the industry chose which acts it would support. The "change in the direction of music" is something Nirvana was a part of. They were within that movement, not outside, or apart from it. They were not the catalyst.
May 25, 20187 yr On 5/24/2018 at 4:29 AM, 52-80 said: this thread needs Jesus. Jesus Jones formed in 1988 Jesus Lizard formed in 1987 Jesus and the Mary Chain formed in 1983 Teenage Jesus and The Jerks formed in 1976 Edited May 25, 20187 yr by yoladu
May 25, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, tbone_ said: There's a bunch of good ones that come to mind: Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Alice In Chains, Tool, STP, Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, NIN, RATM, Toadies, Dream Theater, Muse, Deftones, Radiohead, Weezer, Janes Addiction, Collective Soul, Blackberry Smoke, CCR, Etc etc etc.... My pick out of that list would be Alice In Chains over Nirvana only because I like their music better. Creedence ???
May 25, 20187 yr 22 minutes ago, yoladu said: Jesus Jones formed in 1988 Jesus Lizard formed in 1987 Jesus and the Mary Chain formed in 1983 Teenage Jesus and The Jerks formed in 1976 Depeche Mode formed in 1980 but they didn't find their own personal Jesus until 1990. And Ministry formed in 1981 but Jesus didn't built their hotrod until 1992.
May 25, 20187 yr 38 minutes ago, 52-80 said: Creedence ??? (I think he's referring to Cross Canadian Ragweed)
May 26, 20187 yr I know they didn't set the world on fir, but I've seen worse bands mentioned and I learned a lot of guitar licks from watching them. Oh, and there isn't a separate thread on them on this board. Soul Hat.
May 26, 20187 yr Pearl Jam Black Crowes Nirvana Drive-By Truckers Rage Against the Machine Queens of the Stone Age Foo Fighters The Hold Steady Lucero Uncle Tupelo/Wilco/Son Volt
May 26, 20187 yr 48 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said: I don’t understand why so many people keep saying Foo Fighters. Edited May 26, 20187 yr by Al_4_ISU
May 26, 20187 yr 16 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said: Yes, I am familiar with their moderately catchy, yet somewhat bland brand of rock. I would concede that label applies to some of their output, but their best stuff is absolutely worthy of inclusion.
May 26, 20187 yr Author 13 hours ago, Loco said: Jane's Addiction - damnit 1985 You will have to settle for Porno for Pyros.
May 26, 20187 yr Author On 5/24/2018 at 3:47 PM, irishtexan said: There's no way to get a consensus on this. Here are a few bands that put out at least two stellar records and who formed after 85. I like post-punk, punk rock, and indie type shit. Fugazi The Pixies (seriously, how has no one nominated the pixies yet?) Nirvana Pavement The Jesus Lizard Shellac Weezer Damn, good choices with Fugazi and the Pixies.
May 26, 20187 yr Nirvana oasis was surprised so many put oasis but they have so many good songsI was surprised too, but for the opposite reason.
May 26, 20187 yr For me Foo Fighters were a welcome surprise after Cobain's suicide. I took his death hard -- the only "rock" death that was more devastating to me was Stevie Ray's. One always got the sense that Grohl was a pretty musical guy beyond drums, mostly because he's sing backing vocals now and again, but that first album knocked me out. I've somewhat lost interest in the band over the last decade, but I still love their shows.
May 26, 20187 yr In a subcategory of bands that "could've been one of the best best rock bands", I think Blind Melon would have done great things.
May 26, 20187 yr I wasn't very fond of Blind Melon, but I've really grown to like Sublime over the years. I think they're in that "could have been great" club.
May 26, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, I Got Worms said: In a subcategory of bands that "could've been one of the best best rock bands", I think Blind Melon would have done great things. Agree 100%. That self titled album had some brilliant tunes.
May 26, 20187 yr 14 minutes ago, Mr.Hovis said: So, Counting Crows not being mentioned must mean they are just for us olds? I really like their debut album. After that, not so much. Plus, they suck live. But that's a helluva debut.
May 26, 20187 yr 46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: I really like their debut album. After that, not so much. Plus, they suck live. But that's a helluva debut. Have yet to see them live, but they will be in Austin this summer and I plan on going. Hopefully the live suckage is in the past. You would think as long as they have been together they would have their shit together on stage.
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