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9 hours ago, South Austin said:

I'm interested to see how Jamie Hector does as a cop.  I never saw Bosch.  But he did a great job playing such an evil piece of shit as Marlo Stanfield in The Wire.  Will start watching this weekend.

The fuck? 

Just watched ep 3

Goddammit.  Marlo is such a good dude in this one and he's gonna get taken down with all these scumbags.

Edited by Augustus

6 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

That's a bit harsh, isn't it.  Marlo was just a shrewd businessman.

Anti-social personality disorder is a huge advantage in organized crime.

That scene where the cop is telling the civil rights lawyer how the city has lost the juries. Damn.

I just finished the first episode. I thought it was terrible. Does it get better?

I loved the Wire. I thought the first episode of We Own This City was objectively terrible. 

6 hours ago, BHMCruiser said:

I just finished the first episode. I thought it was terrible. Does it get better?

Honestly I thought the first episode was the best of the three and that it was excellent.

Soooo... not sure how to respond

17 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

Honestly I thought the first episode was the best of the three and that it was excellent.

Soooo... not sure how to respond

How about "no, it does not get better."

1 hour ago, BHMCruiser said:

How about "no, it does not get better."

Right. But someone with shit taste might feel the opposite

Obviously I'm the minority opinion here, but that's exactly what I felt about the first episode of We Own This City. I felt like Simon had lost it. I was utterly uncompelled by any aspect of the show. It compares poorly to The Wire.

I didn't find the first episode compelling either, but I've liked the last two.

So we have “no it doesn’t” and “yes it does”. What else can we come up with for Birmingham Cruiser?

Was interested in this back story and read the book I got a monster by Woods and Soderberg and holy shit these guys were so corrupt for so long that it’s almost unbelievable, I have a background in Civil Service and for the most part rationally and reasonably support the police. That being said to have this level of police corruption for the length in which they had it is terrifying and for the amount of lies these guys ruined with absolute frame jobs I hope they all rot in prison. These guys crossed the line early and were 100 percent criminal for years.

I don’t recall The Wire season 1 being particularly compelling until the third episode. So even if you didn’t like the first episode, stick with it.  It’s a tryptich (actually, I think four timelines) and it doesn’t hold the viewers hand outside of Wayne Jenkins’ formative cop years with those police report cuts.  I presume it all comes together to the timeline where Jenkins and team are being interrogated.  

Marlo became a cop

Poot policing in the county. Landsman is now the commissioner.

Also caught some lines that are wire throwbacks.
On 5/13/2022 at 8:56 PM, Buzzrock said:

So we have “no it doesn’t” and “yes it does”. What else can we come up with for Birmingham Cruiser?

How about "meh"

Too many characters, side plots, and LE departments involved.  I gotta pay attention too much....probably going to wait until it's all out.  I'm stuck on Ep 2 for like a week.

I don’t see this ending well for Jamie Hector’s character. He was probably the cleanest cop in the Gun Taskforce, got forced into taking some money, and then tried to go straight on Homicide. He’s probably wearing jumpsuits with the rest of them. 

Berenthal plays assholes so well.

Jenkins drinks Mike’s Hard Lemonade and has a fat dwarf fetish. Even without the corruption, he’s a POS. 

Gotta chase that Pat Ron with something.
9 hours ago, RPM said:

Berenthal plays assholes so well.

He plays stupid, really insecure assholes so well, it's truly impressive.

Every nuance, every microexpression...  spot on.

11 minutes ago, Augustus said:

He plays stupid, really insecure assholes so well, it's truly impressive.

Every nuance, every microexpression...  spot on.

He was completely believable in Fury. 

11 minutes ago, RPM said:

He was completely believable in Fury. 

Will watch anything with him in it.

I remember first seeing him in early seasons of the walking dead.  Should have kept him around longer...

You robbed the midget stripper?? 
 

simon’s comic fingerprints are all over this one, but we only have six episodes to tell the story rather than a baker’s dozen in Wire/Treme/Deuce. So that gets tamped down in favor of some Captain Exposition malarkey with Wunmi or the FBI agents. I guess we’ll never see that farm to table strip joint.

Edited by TheStoicPaisano

10 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

we only have six episodes to tell the story

Damn, didn't know it was only 6.

Jenkins drinks Mike’s Hard Lemonade and has a fat dwarf fetish. Even without the corruption, he’s a POS. 

He was drinking some other garbage in the bar scene too. Hard iced tea maybe? Gross.
2 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:


He was drinking some other garbage in the bar scene too. Hard iced tea maybe? Gross.

Yeah he switched to hard iced tea. No explanation given. Plot hole!

I’m really enjoying Jamie Hector’s performance. The guy has range. The tension, his dread, and inner conflict all feel real. 
 

I haven’t read the book, but Hector’s character should have grabbed a half ass attorney and sprinted to the feds to make a deal. One of the Gun Taskforce cooperating witnesses is going to throw him under the bus. 

My guess is we get Bernthal interrogation scene next week and he names Hector's character. Or maybe not. IDK. But I do hope to see Bernthal in an extended interrogation scene

geto boys reference, FTW!

 

 

The Ringer podcast said it best. This is what happens when Prez (as a cop), Herc and early Carver get promoted.  Who knew The Wire was painting a positive picture of BPD?

I’m really enjoying Jamie Hector’s performance. The guy has range. The tension, his dread, and inner conflict all feel real. 
 
I haven’t read the book, but Hector’s character should have grabbed a half ass attorney and sprinted to the feds to make a deal. One of the Gun Taskforce cooperating witnesses is going to throw him under the bus. 

He’d have a real hard time hiring an attorney, pretty tragic story
14 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

My guess is we get Bernthal interrogation scene next week and he names Hector's character. Or maybe not. IDK. But I do hope to see Bernthal in an extended interrogation scene

They showed a clip of Jenkins getting interrogated by the feds in the finale preview. Should be a great scene. 

On 5/17/2022 at 2:38 PM, TheStoicPaisano said:

I guess we’ll never see that farm to table strip joint.

Aggies everywhere when that realization hits them:

McNulty Kicks Desk GIF | Gfycat

Bernthal is incredible in this.  I just watched episode 4...lulz at Jenkins's shitty acting when they recreate opening the safe for the camera.

Not sure what Simon is trying to say after the finale. Every cop on the Gun Taskforce received hefty sentences. Even the cooperating witnesses got north of 7 years. 
 

I get it. His overarching message is : the war of drugs is lost and the system is broken. But, we’re talking about corrupt cops doing decades in prison. Isn’t that a victory?

I took it to mean the entire City of Baltimore is completely and totally lost. 

Almost every single elected or appointed leader in that fucking city in the last 10 years has either quit, been fired,  or plead guilty to federal crimes.

Hey Brandi, can I get a fucking wine cooler?

1 hour ago, WBT said:

Hey Brandi, can I get a fucking wine cooler?

It's like I'm wearing a goddamn invisibility cloak here

On 5/17/2022 at 12:20 PM, Augustus said:

He plays stupid, really insecure assholes so well, it's truly impressive.

 

He must post in the CR.

9 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

I took it to mean the entire City of Baltimore is completely and totally lost. 

Almost every single elected or appointed leader in that fucking city in the last 10 years has either quit, been fired,  or plead guilty to federal crimes.

That was my take as well.

Some additional thoughts: 

- Suiter had to stand up. He was a father and a husband. Gotta stay strong for your family. Suicide is the most selfish ending. Simon definitely thinks it was a suicide and filmed it as such. 
- Was a forfeiture of assets part of Jenkins plea? He easily stole several hundred thousand dollars. 
- I don’t get sentencing guidelines. All the cops that didn’t cooperate received north of 12 years. The underboss of the Philly crime family just took a 6.5 year plea on a RICO/drug case. I guess the government nailed the cops on abuse of power?
- Hersl was very dumb taking his case to trial. It will probably cost him 6 years of his life. Why did he think a jury in Baltimore would give him a favorable verdict?

- If the bail bondsman doesn’t talk, I wonder what kind of plea the government offers Jenkins? They had a lot of evidence, but the bondsman put it all together. It reminded me of Gravino flipping on Gotti. 
 

I need to read the book. 

I don't know how Suiter could pull off a suicide that wouldn't be ruled as such.

If he shoots himself in the head, how are ballistics not going to match the shot to the gun that would be lying right beside/underneath him?

Was he hoping the conclusion would be that the "perp" turned his own weapon on him, fired at close range, and left the gun behind?

I just don't see how it's remotely possible a cop could shoot himself in the head and have it ruled anything but suicide.

That would seemingly require the partner's participation to stage the scene.

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