June 4, 20187 yr jimmy, you told me in a fucking PM to drive drunk & kill someone. Do you really fucking want me to open that fucking can? I promise I will.
June 4, 20187 yr Glorious. Edit: The team shooting the cannon was glorious not whatever this argument is. Edited June 4, 20187 yr by Valmy77
June 4, 20187 yr 28 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said: I was wrong: "An outfield fly ball is judged to be fair or foul by the relationship of the ball to the foul line at the moment it first touches the ground, or where it first touches a fielder. If the ball touches a fielder in-flight, the judgment is made at where the ball was when it was touched, NOT from where it may land after a miss, or drop of the ball, by a fielder. The position of the fielder is irrelevant. You only focus on the ball and the foul line. " We knew
June 4, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, spystud13 said: jimmy, you told me in a fucking PM to drive drunk & kill someone. Do you really fucking want me to open that fucking can? I promise I will. Wut? Did I tell you to kill someone in particular or was my request more generic in nature?
June 4, 20187 yr And if you don’t understand who was tweeted to confirm I was right, then that just tells us all even more what you know about the sport.
June 4, 20187 yr agreed he didn't mean to let it go but if he just takes a couple of seconds to make sure he has it and comes out of the stands a bit slower. guy caught and jsut wanted to celebrate a bit too quickly.And this is why I think it SHOULD be ruled a catch. Whether it was a catch under the exact letter of the rule, i don’t know. But I don’t think that situation is the intent of the rule. For the sake of argument, let’s say he didn’t intentionally toss the ball up. He caught it, and he then came off the rail celebrating. His glove clipped the rail and knocked the ball up, but at that point he’d already thought the game had ended in spectacular fashion due to his amazing play. He wasn’t bobbling the ball. He wasn’t still in the act of securing it. But the rule, as applied, essentially means it’s NOT a catch because he celebrated too early. It’s all semantics at this point, and I can see why it would be a nearly impossible, slippery-slope to draw a distinction...but c’mon!
June 4, 20187 yr Oh, and I forgot . . . this is evidence I don't know a sport (that I've watched for almost 50 years)?
June 4, 20187 yr Too bad he didn't hold onto that ball. It was one hell of a great catch. Would have been a great way to end that Regional. The strikeout was pretty good, however.
June 4, 20187 yr Even better. Pretty much the consensus best NCAA writer confirmed my point, I will retract calling him your hero. Just proves your intelligence even more.
June 4, 20187 yr Can you fucks still arguing about the catch/no catch please take the discussion to Texags or something?
June 4, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Gatorubet said: I meant in the finals. Congrats on winning that boring game. Blue was in rare form. Yeah freaking thing put me to sleep. Thanks! Good luck against FAU.
June 4, 20187 yr From 6 rows up it looked like he had it at least briefly but I understand ruling that as not a catch given how quickly the ball was released. Just a really odd play.
June 4, 20187 yr 15 minutes ago, SquishMitten said: And this is why I think it SHOULD be ruled a catch. Whether it was a catch under the exact letter of the rule, i don’t know. But I don’t think that situation is the intent of the rule. For the sake of argument, let’s say he didn’t intentionally toss the ball up. He caught it, and he then came off the rail celebrating. His glove clipped the rail and knocked the ball up, but at that point he’d already thought the game had ended in spectacular fashion due to his amazing play. He wasn’t bobbling the ball. He wasn’t still in the act of securing it. But the rule, as applied, essentially means it’s NOT a catch because he celebrated too early. It’s all semantics at this point, and I can see why it would be a nearly impossible, slippery-slope to draw a distinction...but c’mon! This is everything right here. He caught the ball; same as Dez and Calvin before him. But it wasn’t a catch according to the rule; same as Dez and Calvin before him.
June 4, 20187 yr Fun weekend of baseball. Blowout, reminded little brother who’s who and a nail bitter. Little bit of everything.
June 4, 20187 yr How about Shugart throwing 96 on one day’s rest? He was put into an impossible situation and dominated.
June 4, 20187 yr I seem to recall being pretty satisfied with the season's result the last time we play a Super in Oxford
June 4, 20187 yr 39 minutes ago, Gatorubet said: Know how I know people have to explain things to you a lot? Oooh. Good one. Very witty. Yes, counselor. I get that your feelings of superiority make you believe that your SEC affiliation situates you above the fray of lesser conferences. So go ahead and explain, spell it out for me, because I’m so dense, how your butt-buddies at a and m got bounced so quickly in a “sniff”, Big12 regional. At least their meltdown against Indiana wasn’t “boring”, was it? 39 minutes ago, Gatorubet said: Know how I know people have to explain things to you a lot?
June 4, 20187 yr I seem to recall being pretty satisfied with the season's result the last time we play a Super in OxfordI remember that too. One of my best friends actually played on that Texas team. I closed my blinds and dove into a handle of Wild Turkey that weekend. One of the coolest things that Augie said in Omaha was that the best team he’d faced all year was sitting at home in Oxford. And after Texas won, the players said the same thing. That was a cool compliment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
June 4, 20187 yr Quality journalism https://hornsillustrated.com/longhorns-biofile-heavy-metal-david-ash/
June 4, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said: There is no such thing as a deflection rule. Stahp. So get this shit ... today in my kid's Centex Series round robin play, we had runners on 1st & second, 1 out. Our kid hit a hard grounder toward third, where the 3rd baseman was playing practically on top of the bag. 3rd baseman steps 2 or 3 steps toward home & into foul territory, and catches the ball about 2 feet foul and about 3 or 4 feet toward home from the bag. It's not even close to fair territory. Kid plays it out, steps on 3rd, throws to 1st. Umps call outs at 3rd and 1st, killing our inning. I'm coaching 1st, and our HC is coaching 3rd. He immediately tells the home plate ump that's a foul ball & is dead as soon as 3B touches it. Ump says the ball first bounced fair and never hit the ground in foul territory before 3B caught it in the air in foul territory, so it's fair. This is, of course, complete nonsense, and our HC is very good with the rules and quoted it to the ump almost exactly the same way I've been finding it online. Nope. No go. Shit like this happens damn near every game, and our HC can show the guys the rule half the time, but it has zero effect. These worthless fucks are getting paid to Ump, but can't be bothered to actually learn a got-damn rule or two ... and then they actually, with a straight face, tell us we're wrong when we can actually show them the fucking rule. I mean I get it. Umpiring is hard AF, and there are lots of little nitpicky rules, but this isn't really one of em. Learn the fucking rule book or go do something else. Yesterday we noticed the opposing pitcher, after each pitch, was going about half way to home plate to take the throw from the catcher, then cluelessly lollygagging his way back to the mound. So we got a kid on third and after a couple pitches like this we sent him as soon as the catcher made the throw back after a pitch. He stole home and scored easily. Umps called our kid out, saying we had illegally run a "squeeze play". Of course, laying down a bunt is kinda hard when the pitcher is walking back to the mound, but WTF, let's call it a squeeze play. Why the fuck not, right? /csb. Not sorry for the semi-ot rantage. Edited June 4, 20187 yr by wood
June 4, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Goo Punch said: This is everything right here. He caught the ball; same as Dez and Calvin before him. But it wasn’t a catch according to the rule; same as Dez and Calvin before him. I dunno. I think it's a tough one for Blue even if he made the catch. They were likely pretty obscured from actually being able to see him make the catch, and he never held it up or anything. When he ball comes flying out like that, I can understand how it's pretty tough for them to call that a game-ending, regional-ending out. Pierce seemed to agree. I had a feeling it wasn't over as soon as I saw the ball fly out. Just glad it worked out for us. Edited June 4, 20187 yr by wood
June 4, 20187 yr The butt hurt is real... Sounds like somebody needs a diablo sandwich and a Dr Pepper
June 4, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, jimmyjazz said: The rule has been posted multiple times -- can you comment on why you think it wasn't a catch? He didn't make a football move.
June 4, 20187 yr For those who didn't get to see it - the controversial no-catch: Thanks for posting. First time I’ve seen it. His celebration cost him the catch. Like the Cav dribbling out the clock the other night when they were tied. All in all: IDMAS.
June 4, 20187 yr Wood, the umpire made the right call in your first scenario. If the ball hits in fair territory and a player touches it in foul territory before the ball touches the ground in foul territory and before it passes foul past third base then it is considered fair. The ball becomes a foul once it touches the ground in foul territory.
June 4, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Duke Silver said: Wood, the umpire made the right call in your first scenario. If the ball hits in fair territory and a player touches it in foul territory before the ball touches the ground in foul territory and before it passes foul past third base then it is considered fair. The ball becomes a foul once it touches the ground in foul territory. This. If it's before the bag and bounced in fair ground, then it's still fair.
June 4, 20187 yr Many, many moons ago...I think it was 1975, San Antonio Roosevelt HS vs Converse Judson, ump at home plate called a balk on the Judson catcher when he faked a throw to pick off a runner on 1st.
June 4, 20187 yr I can’t even tell if people are trolling any more. No. Before 1st/3rd bases, the ball is fair if it touches someone while the ball is in fair territory. Foul if it touches someone while the ball is in foul territory. This thread is loony tunes. This isn’t NFL. This isn’t NBA. The moment something touches the ball you decide whether it is fair or foul based on where the ball is. It doesn’t matter if it “bounced fair first and hasn’t bounced in foul territory.” Edited June 4, 20187 yr by SuingToGetAMessageBoard?
June 4, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said: I can’t even tell if people are trolling any more. No. Before 1st/3rd bases, the ball is fair if it touches someone in fair territory. Foul if it touches someone in foul territory. This thread is loony tunes. This isn’t NFL. This isn’t NBA. The moment something touches the ball you decide whether it is fair or foul based on where the ball is. Lol you are correct.
June 4, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, randygilman said: Quality journalism https://hornsillustrated.com/longhorns-biofile-heavy-metal-david-ash/ Best post of the last few pages
June 4, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, randygilman said: Quality journalism https://hornsillustrated.com/longhorns-biofile-heavy-metal-david-ash/ That's a rough looking 36 years. Also I think he may want to sex Kody Clemens.
June 4, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, wood said: So get this shit ... today in my kid's Centex Series round robin play, we had runners on 1st & second, 1 out. Our kid hit a hard grounder toward third, where the 3rd baseman was playing practically on top of the bag. 3rd baseman steps 2 or 3 steps toward home & into foul territory, and catches the ball about 2 feet foul and about 3 or 4 feet toward home from the bag. It's not even close to fair territory. Kid plays it out, steps on 3rd, throws to 1st. Umps call outs at 3rd and 1st, killing our inning. I'm coaching 1st, and our HC is coaching 3rd. He immediately tells the home plate ump that's a foul ball & is dead as soon as 3B touches it. Ump says the ball first bounced fair and never hit the ground in foul territory before 3B caught it in the air in foul territory, so it's fair. This is, of course, complete nonsense, and our HC is very good with the rules and quoted it to the ump almost exactly the same way I've been finding it online. Nope. No go. Shit like this happens damn near every game, and our HC can show the guys the rule half the time, but it has zero effect. These worthless fucks are getting paid to Ump, but can't be bothered to actually learn a got-damn rule or two ... and then they actually, with a straight face, tell us we're wrong when we can actually show them the fucking rule. I mean I get it. Umpiring is hard AF, and there are lots of little nitpicky rules, but this isn't really one of em. Learn the fucking rule book or go do something else. Yesterday we noticed the opposing pitcher, after each pitch, was going about half way to home plate to take the throw from the catcher, then cluelessly lollygagging his way back to the mound. So we got a kid on third and after a couple pitches like this we sent him as soon as the catcher made the throw back after a pitch. He stole home and scored easily. Umps called our kid out, saying we had illegally run a "squeeze play". Of course, laying down a bunt is kinda hard when the pitcher is walking back to the mound, but WTF, let's call it a squeeze play. Why the fuck not, right? /csb. Not sorry for the semi-ot rantage. Wait a second. Youth league umpires suck? You may have broken the story of the year there Bernstein.
June 4, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, Fozzz said: How about Shugart throwing 96 on one day’s rest? He was put into an impossible situation and dominated. 96 mph? Henley threw about 100 pitches, Shugart threw maybe 10. Not to denigrate his performance. Edited June 4, 20187 yr by TwiceHorn
June 4, 20187 yr The team is going to a Super when this season looked lost, but people are too busy arguing about finite baseball rules to enjoy it.
June 4, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said: Sounds like somebody needs a diablo sandwich and a Dr Pepper Well they were in a goddamn hurry
June 4, 20187 yr 7 hours ago, Irish Wrist Watch said: Too bad he didn't hold onto that ball. It was one hell of a great catch. Would have been a great way to end that Regional. The strikeout was pretty good, however. I was worried that they wouldn't be able to refocus after the premature celebration, but Shugart held it together.
June 4, 20187 yr 54 minutes ago, immortal13 said: This. If it's before the bag and bounced in fair ground, then it's still fair. What the fuck are you talking about? It is not fair if the fielder is standing foul. Amazing the lack of knowledge of simple baseball rules. Edited June 4, 20187 yr by hornbri
June 4, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, hornbri said: What the fuck are you talking about? It is not fair if the fielder is standing foul. Amazing the lack of knowledge of simple baseball rules. My bad motherfucker, I misread. I thought the fielder was in fair territory and reached over the line
June 4, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, immortal13 said: My bad motherfucker, I misread. I thought the fielder was in fair territory and reached over the line Ok - but that is still wrong. If the ball is in foul territory and is touched it does not matter where the player is. That is still a foul ball.
June 4, 20187 yr You’ll never get to fly the spaceship if you marry a stripper Edited June 4, 20187 yr by GreenspointTexas
June 4, 20187 yr 21 minutes ago, hornbri said: Ok - but that is still wrong. If the ball is in foul territory and is touched it does not matter where the player is. That is still a foul ball. Yep. The location of the fielder is irrelevant. People have been watching too much football.
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