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#31001
10 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

I can't shake the feeling that the 4 left standing eventually balloon to 20 teams, then realize that's not a real conference, then subdivide into divisions of 10 along generally geographic lines. Suddenly 25 years from now we have basically the same conferences. And we're right back to the best kind of conference (10 teams, round robin schedules) with pairs of divisions that are "conferences" for media contract purposes only.

Well in 1914, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Baylor and Oklahoma St. met in a meeting to create the SWC and LSU thought about coming (Rice joined before the first season).  Sub Texas Tech for Arkansas and you have the 1996 Big 12 South.  Now in 2024 Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Arkansas will be back together in the SEC along with LSU.

its all happened before.  it will all happen again..

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#31002
12 minutes ago, LTbear said:

Scheer is reporting WSU and OSU are offering to cut their share and give it directly to UO/ UW. 

 

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#31006
9 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

It just sucks all around that’s we might get to 20 team conferences for the fans.  We made fun of aggy for never playing Georgia but now teams might not play other teams in their own conference but once every ten years as a regular occurrence.   No one has a clue how to schedule this shit or how to do divisions yet.   SEC can’t figure out how to schedule or don’t want to for a 16 teams conference because pods and a real rotating schedule takes away their control to pick and choose and make the top half look better then they really are like they have been for years.  Most SEC teams don’t want to give up their non conference cupcake wins either.  If you got to 2-3 non conference games and everyone schedules non conference cupcakes how to judge between the conferences?

We'll play with reasonable frequency since they are dropping divisions, but you may have "champions" who play 8 of the other 19 teams.  League titles will become crap shoots depending on who you play and you will periodically have to use convoluted tiebreaks that make 2008 Big 12 South look reasonable.  But its already done.

Lets hope they all stop at 18.  UW/Oregon to B$G 10++++++++ and FSU/Clemson to $EC.  ACC and Big 12 figure out how the M2 looks.

#31007
1 minute ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

 

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What a god damn cock tease...

 

 

You not into edgin' brah?!

 

 

#31008
20 minutes ago, LTbear said:

Scheer is reporting WSU and OSU are offering to cut their share and give it directly to UO/ UW. 

 

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                     "How much for a rib?"

#31009
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Last time he posted this it was one.....now it is three.....what does this mean!

Usually it means he got 3 silent commits at the BBQ.

#31010
4 minutes ago, bullet said:

Well in 1914, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Baylor and Oklahoma St. met in a meeting to create the SWC and LSU thought about coming (Rice joined before the first season).  Sub Texas Tech for Arkansas and you have the 1996 Big 12 South.  Now in 2024 Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Arkansas will be back together in the SEC along with LSU.

its all happened before.  it will all happen again..

"Oklahoma A&M" didn't change its name to Oklahoma State until 1957, so they were known as "Oklahoma A&M" in 1914.

#31012
Another one: There has been discussion of the Pac-12 and ACC saving each other through a merger.

 

#31013
2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:
If the Big 12 really has accepted Arizona, they’ve now responded to getting broken up with by OU and UT by taking in 4 cats in the last 2 years.

Hot girl summer

And Washington St. replaces the Blue and Red window Cougars.

#31014

 

Sources indicating to me and @CFBHeather that the Pac-12 is unlikely to land the plane this morning and get its media rights deal signed on this call today. Multiple variables at play here, including 11th hour Big Ten push for Oregon and Washington. Everything remains fluid. https://t.co/YUm5xStXv7

 

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#31016
Just now, closetohumping said:

Maybe not the worst idea?

All the shitty travel of the B1G, none of the pesky money.

#31018
2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What's funny about all this is Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska also voted for that

Uneven revenue sharing was favored by A&M, Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas and Kansas.  Seeing a pattern there?

#31019
9 minutes ago, bullet said:

Well in 1914, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Baylor and Oklahoma St. met in a meeting to create the SWC and LSU thought about coming (Rice joined before the first season).  Sub Texas Tech for Arkansas and you have the 1996 Big 12 South.  Now in 2024 Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Arkansas will be back together in the SEC along with LSU.

its all happened before.  it will all happen again..

"Conference realignment is a flat circle." - Rust Cohle

#31020
Just now, Sir Ulrich said:

 

Sources indicating to me and @CFBHeather that the Pac-12 is unlikely to land the plane this morning and get its media rights deal signed on this call today. Multiple variables at play here, including 11th hour Big Ten push for Oregon and Washington. Everything remains fluid. https://t.co/YUm5xStXv7

 

Confirmed. 

We have ourselves a "The Situation Is Fluid."

Lulz.

 

 

#31022

The remaining 9 teams (Zona included or SDSU) would have to take a haircut from $20 million/year down to roughly $17.5 million to get Oregon/UW to the Big 12's $31 million. It is worth it to the non Big 12 invitees but Utah/ASU/Arizona would be stupid to agree to such.  

#31023
3 minutes ago, Sandman said:
Another one: There has been discussion of the Pac-12 and ACC saving each other through a merger.

 

It's the "Pac-a-tACC" when you know you're on crack.  Lulz.

#31024

 

Pac-12 unable to get Grant of Rights signed this morning & "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon & Washington joining Big Ten, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Ducks & Huskies still expected to be Big Ten bound when finances are worked out, sources said

 

 

#31025

This reminds me too much of the PAC 12 or 10 or whatever after last night.

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#31026
5 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

Sources indicating to me and @CFBHeather that the Pac-12 is unlikely to land the plane this morning and get its media rights deal signed on this call today. Multiple variables at play here, including 11th hour Big Ten push for Oregon and Washington. Everything remains fluid. https://t.co/YUm5xStXv7

 

This all could just be Oregon and UW trying to get leverage in negotiations with the Big 10.

#31028
1 minute ago, Lonestar88 said:

This all could just be Oregon and UW trying to get leverage in negotiations with the Big 10.

I assumed that as well. No reason Oregon and Washington should get less than $50 million while Purdue and Rutgers are close to $100 million or whatever the escalators end up at. 

#31029
31 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:


The Big 12 always ended up with more money than they previously had. Even if the Pac survives, they’re all doing it for less money and awful exposure. It’s survival, but removing themselves from the game in a lot of ways. Which I’ve long assumed they would do until last week.

Agree, the PAC was already an afterthought in terms of national perception amongst college football fans. If they stick together they’re completely irrelevant and will be a laughingstock. Not ideal for recruiting.

#31030
4 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

Pac-12 unable to get Grant of Rights signed this morning & "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon & Washington joining Big Ten, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Ducks & Huskies still expected to be Big Ten bound when finances are worked out, sources said

 

 

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#31031
3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

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I can't wait for the PacX to die and then show up later with an eye patch and mustache, pretending to be someone else.

#31032
58 minutes ago, LTbear said:

I can't believe UO and UW would actually turn down a B1G invite if they can see beyond 5 years into the future. Perhaps this is UO and UW looking to gain some tiny bit of leverage with the B1G (give us more travel money), perhaps its Apple throwing out one more sweeter (but still bad) deal, perhaps its ASU/ OSU/ WSU leaking positive remarks in a last-ditch effort before the final PAC meeting this morning. 

I'm betting on 1) Big 10 cooling on UO and UW and 2) your last sentence-ASU/OSU/WSU leaking more nonsense.

McMurphy, Wilner and a lot of others are pretty sure UO and UW end up in the Big 10 eventually.  Stupid to be Rose and stay on the Titanic instead of taking one of the limited lifeboats. 

#31033
52 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Part of me wishes we could press the reset button.  I do like being in the SEC but this is madness.

2005 was pretty good.  Big 12 still intact.  Big East alive.  ACC a South Atlantic Conference.

#31034

 

Sources indicate to WildcatAuthority that Washington is very concerned with the Apple deal. Arizona and Arizona State are still on track to join the Big 12.ASU President Michael Crow is proving to be a stumbling block, but parties involved are confident it can be overcome.

 

#31035
9 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

This all could just be Oregon and UW trying to get leverage in negotiations with the Big 10.

So would it be something like:

UO/UW: Hey BIG, we’re still negotiating a deal with the PAC that may give us more money.  So, if you want to make a move to add us, you need to move now.

BIG:  You should really take that PAC deal.

 

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#31037
4 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

I can't wait for the PacX to die and then show up later with an eye patch and mustache, pretending to be someone else.

 

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Bobby Valentine says, "Hi!"  Lulz.

#31038
18 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Maybe not the worst idea?

Not the worst, but really bad.  The A&P conference?

#31039
1 minute ago, bullet said:

Not the worst, but really bad.  The A&P conference?

I hope they have a stamps reward program for the fans.

#31040

 

 

Can confirm @ralphDrussoAP report that there's a Big Ten presidents call now scheduled for today. There wasn't one scheduled early this morning.

 

#31042
17 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

Pac-12 unable to get Grant of Rights signed this morning & "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon & Washington joining Big Ten, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Ducks & Huskies still expected to be Big Ten bound when finances are worked out, sources said

 

 

So all those "sources" were once again Oregon St. and Washington St.

#31043

ACC + B12 - while it adds time zones, it adds few if any notable big games that would draw 4 million plus. Nobody's paying big bucks for that.

In contrast B10 + UCLA & USC added multiple games with huge draws that will easily nab 4 to 8 million viewers with large viewership on both coasts.

Any school with a choice would be crazy to stay in the P10 not only because of the small payout but also the fact that nobody's going to go look for their new streaming package - the same way the world has ignored their current streaming network. In fact the new network would be even more difficult to find and more out of the way.

Shed no tears for the Pac and the Rose Bowl. They dug their own graves.

 

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#31044
49 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Pac-12 CEO Group meeting is underway now. All nine of the remaining universities have confirmed their president/chancellors are in the meeting. They are meeting with the intent to sign the Grant of Rights.

 

Glad he tweeted this so we know what won't happen at the meeting.  (I can't be the only person that reads his crap and deduces that the opposite of his statement is the truth)

#31045
17 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

 

Pac-12 unable to get Grant of Rights signed this morning & "nothing has changed" as far as Oregon & Washington joining Big Ten, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Ducks & Huskies still expected to be Big Ten bound when finances are worked out, sources said

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Yep.

 

I assume the only remaining issue is if the PAC dissolves completely and the teams join the MW or does the MW join the PAC for the name / Rose Bowl affiliation?

 

#31046

The other alternative is that Oregon and Washington were making the leaks to put pressure on the Big 10 to act.

#31048

CFB, including realignment, is mostly about schadenfreude to me. That is why I am rooting for the Pac/ACC merger. I'm for anything that will lead to FSU suing Arizona State. 

#31049

There's a lot of playing poker, playing chicken, seeing who will blink going on. There are three factions:

Some of us:

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Others of us:

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Then, there's Arizona State and Utah

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#31050
15 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

I can't wait for the PacX to die and then show up later with an eye patch and mustache, pretending to be someone else.

Well if the new window cougars and window beavers merge with the MWC and rename it....

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