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19 hours ago, GJ Winne said:

Maybe, but I also want no part of competing against Stanford, and I don't imagine anyone else in the PAC feels like playing for 2nd in pretty much every sport.

I just think it would be good for Stanford and Cal to get back into a "west coast conference" just because of the still unsettled nature of everything. 

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16 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Not for some schools.

I think it’s utterly moronic to think who you play sports with says anything about your academics, but that’s 100% how Stanford and Cal think, as well as large swaths of the Big 10.

The Big 10 only says that because it was already that way not the other way around. The schools that were members for a century were large well funded institutions and had AAU status when shit started blowing up. They proved it’s flexible when they took Nebraska who was already on their way out of the AAU. If a lesser academic institution was in the neighborhood with massive athletics media value they’d take them in a heartbeat that just doesn’t exist up there.

16 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I think it’s utterly moronic to think who you play sports with says anything about your academics, but that’s 100% how Stanford and Cal think, as well as large swaths of the Big 10.

I think the last few years have disabused them of that.  

I feel like Stanford fans, at least, are in the camp of pure survival (those that will do anything to preserve non-football/Olympic sports and still have a football team and or figure out a way to retain all the other sports without a football team).

I can see them joining this non-Power Pac12 and having a competitive football team and still retaining and having success in the non-football sports. 

The ones who are all about academics and don't care about sports would rather us just join the Ivy League or create a West Coast Ivy League. 

Cal and Stanford are going to use academic reputation to recruit, and not to make decisions about conferences. 

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I get the desire to play closer to home, but that ship has sailed for an elite athletics powerhouse like Stanford. Playing in the PAC would fuck their RPI something fierce.  Never mind not having real competition to prepare them for the NCAA's.

52 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I think the last few years have disabused them of that.  

I feel like Stanford fans, at least, are in the camp of pure survival (those that will do anything to preserve non-football/Olympic sports and still have a football team and or figure out a way to retain all the other sports without a football team).

I can see them joining this non-Power Pac12 and having a competitive football team and still retaining and having success in the non-football sports. 

The ones who are all about academics and don't care about sports would rather us just join the Ivy League or create a West Coast Ivy League. 

Cal and Stanford are going to use academic reputation to recruit, and not to make decisions about conferences. 

This seems like a far more logical way of operating.

53 minutes ago, 'stache said:

The Big 10 only says that because it was already that way not the other way around. The schools that were members for a century were large well funded institutions and had AAU status when shit started blowing up. They proved it’s flexible when they took Nebraska who was already on their way out of the AAU. If a lesser academic institution was in the neighborhood with massive athletics media value they’d take them in a heartbeat that just doesn’t exist up there.

The Big 10 is always going on about their academic consortium, like they can only collaborate with schools that are part of their athletic conference, academically.

I think the talk about academics is an attempt to put a respectable face on the conference expansion money grabs. It's not a secret the Big Ten has always wanted Notre Dame who wasn't in the AAU until 2023. I've always thought Stanford should be in a conference with the UC's or join the University Athletic Association which is composed of peer schools (University of Chicago, Washington University, Carnegie Mellon, etc) that explicitly won't make the academic compromises to play football at a high level.

Stanford is unique in valuing Olympic sports as much or maybe more than football. They would utterly dominate any lower level league in those sports to the point of lacking any genuine competition. Academic snobbery is still the primary reason they won’t join the Big XII imo, but it’s also true that the average ACC school sponsors more Olympic sports than the average Big XII school (I think). And while the Big XII sponsors a lot of sports some are weird amalgamations of affiliate schools that feel really odd. That could also have played a role in their decision.

On 6/30/2025 at 1:34 PM, Larry T. Spider said:

Our leadership team, especially the president, has done a phenomenal job.

 

Can't be overstated.  The combination of Denise Trauth and Larry Teis was just brutal for us, especially when trying to move to FBS was crippling.  For you Longhorns - think of where you would be if Steve Patterson was your AD for 15 years and the president just couldn't be bothered.  As CDC has been your messiah, so too has Kelly Damphousse been ours.

I’m excited for the new Pac after Dark and having Texas St come up to Boise. Thinking they will add 2 more next season to get to 10 with the push still towards Memphis and Tulane as priorities and UNLV and UTSA in the backlog.

Basketball and Baseball will be real good too.
On 7/2/2025 at 7:34 AM, Mittens said:

 

Man, realignment just doesn't hit like it used to

13 hours ago, LTbear said:

Man, realignment just doesn't hit like it used to

Well, it's not any worse than Northern Illinois to the MWC

On 7/3/2025 at 10:42 PM, shnsajax said:

Basketball and Baseball will be real good too.

Basketball, yes.  Baseball?  eh....  

Oregon State - class of the conference
Fresno State - roughly .500 the last 5 years, but NCAAs last 2 years
Texas State - occasionally competitive, hopefully a new HC after next season
Gonzage - b2b seasons under .500, NCAAs in 16, 18, 21, 22
SDSU - 4 straight losing seasons, last NCAA 2018
WSU - barely over .500 the last couple years, dreadful couple before that, last NCAA 2010

Boise State, Utah State and Colorado State do not have teams

12 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

Well, it's not any worse than Northern Illinois to the MWC

Still can’t beat Cal and Stanford in the ACC

10 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Still can’t beat Cal and Stanford in the ACC

Hey, I'm just glad Powers and Dodds didn't move us to the Pac-12 back in the day.

Academics matters in recruiting? When's the last time grad rates were relevant?

1 minute ago, Iceman said:

Academics matters in recruiting? When's the last time grad rates were relevant?

Only when we go head to head with Stanford…

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2 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

Hey, I'm just glad Powers and Dodds didn't move us to the Pac-12 back in the day.

Minority opinion here.  But I would’ve preferred that

Same.  And we likely wouldn't have the ridiculous concentration of power programs there is today.  

Just now, Mittens said:

Same.  And we likely wouldn't have the ridiculous concentration of power programs there is today.  

Texas, USC, Oregon, UW would’ve been enough to own sports west of Mississippi 

It would have failed, for many of the same reasons the Pac 12 failed

Thats an insane cultural disparity, and all the shit you guys talk on Big 12 schools applies more so to the Pac schools.  Far away places that don’t care anywhere near as much about football.

The SEC is the only place it ever made sense for UT and OU to go outside of the Big 12.

1 hour ago, Mittens said:

Same.  And we likely wouldn't have the ridiculous concentration of power programs there is today.  

This would be true had you guys not left the Big 12 as well.

TV wanted the power programs more concentrated and that wouldn’t have changed with a Pac 16.

41 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It would have failed, for many of the same reasons the Pac 12 failed

Thats an insane cultural disparity, and all the shit you guys talk on Big 12 schools applies more so to the Pac schools.  Far away places that don’t care anywhere near as much about football.

The SEC is the only place it ever made sense for UT and OU to go outside of the Big 12.

It’s actually worse in pac and the tv ratings prove it. 

3 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Minority opinion here.  But I would’ve preferred that

I agree. Pac 12 or B1G. SEC was always my 3rd choice.

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It would have failed, for many of the same reasons the Pac 12 failed

Thats an insane cultural disparity, and all the shit you guys talk on Big 12 schools applies more so to the Pac schools.  Far away places that don’t care anywhere near as much about football.

The SEC is the only place it ever made sense for UT and OU to go outside of the Big 12.

Disagree.  Expanded pac would’ve had 6 of the top ten television markets. Huge geo footprint. Would’ve been #2 conference ahead of the big ten 

2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Disagree.  Expanded pac would’ve had 6 of the top ten television markets. Huge geo footprint. Would’ve been #2 conference ahead of the big ten 

Even tho they have big markets they lag behind big and sec in viewership 

46 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Even tho they have big markets they lag behind big and sec in viewership 

Maybe the ratings go up with the addition of the Texas markets?

11 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Nobody on west coast gives a fuck about college football

Not true!

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There are people who care. The admins definitely dgaf though.

2 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I give a fuck when Stanford is good every couple of decades for a spell.

I give a fuck when Cal is good every... oh wait

Some ideas to rename the conference:

MOUNTAIN WASTE

YUCKY MOUNTAIN

BAG OF SHIT 

AT LEAST WE'RE REGIONAL

1 hour ago, DFW Horn said:

Woof

Mountain West Officially Welcomes Grand Canyon University – Mountain West  Conference

Next year they add UC-Davis (non fb for now) and Northern Illinois (fb only).

NMSU and Sac State are still available, plus they might be interested in Cal Poly as well.

"Grand Canyon University" sounds like one of those schools that had to forgive all their student loan debt for being, well... not an actual university. Ouch

8 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Next year they add UC-Davis (non fb for now) and Northern Illinois (fb only).

NMSU and Sac State are still available, plus they might be interested in Cal Poly as well.

Too many FCS and D2 options are trying to move up. Dilutes the overall FBS strength to accommodate programs without the fan base and resources.

13 hours ago, campcrunk said:

"Grand Canyon University" sounds like one of those schools that had to forgive all their student loan debt for being, well... not an actual university. Ouch

Pretty damn close, shady as fuck. Still for profit traded on NASDAQ. From 1000 students in 2008 to 17,000 in 2017 to over 100,000 today, mostly online. Best comment I saw was "next up University of Phoenix and Southern New Hampshire University."

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14 hours ago, campcrunk said:

"Grand Canyon University" sounds like one of those schools that had to forgive all their student loan debt for being, well... not an actual university. Ouch

Um... not sure if this was sarcasm cause...

Grand Canyon University Shady Shit

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Pretty damn close, shady as fuck. Still for profit traded on NASDAQ. From 1000 students in 2008 to 17,000 in 2017 to over 100,000 today, mostly online. Best comment I saw was "next up University of Phoenix and Southern New Hampshire University."

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Doh!!!

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On 7/8/2025 at 11:30 PM, campcrunk said:

"Grand Canyon University" sounds like one of those schools that had to forgive all their student loan debt for being, well... not an actual university. Ouch

 

12 hours ago, 'stache said:

Pretty damn close, shady as fuck. Still for profit traded on NASDAQ. From 1000 students in 2008 to 17,000 in 2017 to over 100,000 today, mostly online. Best comment I saw was "next up University of Phoenix and Southern New Hampshire University."

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My cop friend opened Maps and said unnecessarily 'Don't point up a girl between in this block, we're running a lot of stings.'  I looked at the streets and said That's around GCU.

On 7/7/2025 at 12:39 PM, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Your avatar photo was taken in West Marin, correct?

With someone brought in from outside of West Marin?

Was this directed to me? Alaska, wife 

On 7/6/2025 at 5:04 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

Nobody on west coast gives a fuck about college football

True.  We actually have shit to do and the weather to do it in out here

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On 7/6/2025 at 2:04 PM, Al_4_ISU said:

It would have failed, for many of the same reasons the Pac 12 failed

Thats an insane cultural disparity, and all the shit you guys talk on Big 12 schools applies more so to the Pac schools.  Far away places that don’t care anywhere near as much about football.

The SEC is the only place it ever made sense for UT and OU to go outside of the Big 12.

I’ve always thought UT was far more B1G than Sec. Conference full of flagships, AAU members and good to great sports teams. What’s not to like?

On 7/6/2025 at 2:04 PM, Al_4_ISU said:

It would have failed, for many of the same reasons the Pac 12 failed

Thats an insane cultural disparity, and all the shit you guys talk on Big 12 schools applies more so to the Pac schools.  Far away places that don’t care anywhere near as much about football.

The SEC is the only place it ever made sense for UT and OU to go outside of the Big 12.

I disagree. Us, UW, USC, OR and the dumb fucks in Norman would have shifted the landscape. Especially if this was done +10 years ago as the P12 would have secured far better TV deals the last 1-2 rounds.

"insane cultural disparity" outside of football, what in the fuck do we have in common with sec?

 

I would have enjoyed this trip

 

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Over plantation tours

 

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39 minutes ago, Satchel said:

I’ve always thought UT was far more B1G than Sec. Conference full of flagships, AAU members and good to great sports teams. What’s not to like?

 

Snow and yankees for starters. 

1 hour ago, thunderlounge said:

 

Snow and yankees for starters. 

You prefer the hillbillies on TigerDroppings?

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