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10 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Who knows what he would be doing now if Trump was president.

Golfing, grifting, and committing further treason.  

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    this is really boring and overhyped.  Most of the country doesn't care about topic, I'd say a 3 hour special on inflation would get more eyeballs.  Or a bikini contest. 

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10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trumps' campaign mgr wanted Trump to say: it's too early to call, they're still counting votes, we're proud of the campaign we ran. Did he even remotely understand his candidate. 6 months before the election Trump was saying that only fraud could prevent his win, and it was seriously debated whether he would accept a loss and leave the WH. 

If Stepien actually spoke those words above to Trump, I bet Trump thought he (Stepien) was a fool.

I don't know if you've been here the last five or six years, but that fucking guy thinks anyone who isn't that fucking guy is a fool.

1 hour ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

Your question makes you sound like a poor person with no investments. Sorry about that. 

 

Your answer makes you sound like a poor person who doesn’t know what the stock market does.

2 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

No need to get nuanced when gas is heading over $5/gal. 

There's nothing nuanced about a segment of the population cheering for bad things to befall the country and, in some cases, exacerbating these bad things in order to get their jersey back in control. 

Of course, not all those miscreants are Americans, are they?

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2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Your answer makes you sound like a poor person who doesn’t know what the stock market does.

It amazes me the amount of people that don’t understand you can make money when the market is up, and when it’s on the way down.  It isn’t that hard folks. 

Not sure why Stepien couldn't testify today.  My dad could have testified when i was born if you could have found him in the beer joint

4 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

Not sure why Stepien couldn't testify today.  My dad could have testified when i was born if you could have found him in the beer joint

If the video gives them the statement that they want for today's narrative, there isn't a reason to bring on the live testimony that might be said in a different manner or expanded.

4 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Member when Rudy was "America's Mayor" and was running for president on a platform of 9/11?  I member...

Still an incredibly appropriate moniker when it comes to how we are viewed on the global stage today. 

17 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

Not sure why Stepien couldn't testify today.  My dad could have testified when i was born if you could have found him in the beer joint

Brother?

1 hour ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

It is nice for my overlords that their talking point can easily have interesting things like the down being down 14% in the past 6 months.  No need to get nuanced when gas is heading over $5/gal. 

 

 

This isn't what this thread is about.

GTFO Troll.

2 hours ago, 0xdeadbeef said:

It is nice for my overlords that their talking point can easily have interesting things like the down being down 14% in the past 6 months.  No need to get nuanced when gas is heading over $5/gal. 

 

 


I anticipated all this and chose to be very wealthy. Sorry that you didn't do the same.

From the CNN summary of Barr's testimony that was shown today:

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During their December 2020 Oval Office confrontation, Barr said that Trump gave him a report that claimed “absolute proof” the Dominion voting machines had been rigged. Barr said that the report “looked very amateurish to me,” and he “didn’t see any supporting information” for the fraud claims. “I was somewhat demoralized, because I thought, ‘Boy, if he really believes this stuff, he has lost contact with – he’s become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff.’”

Did Trump print out a tweet or 4chan post?

If we take Barr at his word, shouldn't an AG take action if they think the President has become detached from reality?

So this $250 million raised for the Election Defense Fund, do they have receipts on who sent money and how much?  I know there are about 50 million morons who will send him money, but $250m seems like quite a reach for that to be grassroots funded.  There had to be some substantial donations from companies, international people, etc that dumped money into this apparent slush fund.

51 minutes ago, Restless Native said:
1 hour ago, Ten Bears said:

Not sure why Stepien couldn't testify today.  My dad could have testified when i was born if you could have found him in the beer joint

Brother?

Usernames check out

1 hour ago, Restless Native said:

Brother?

Maybe.  Were you born in San Angelo?

1 minute ago, Ten Bears said:

Maybe.  Were you born in San Angelo?

Austin, but dad really got around back then.

23 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

I know there are about 50 million morons who will send him money, but $250m seems like quite a reach for that to be grassroots funded.

You're way underestimating how important it is to be at the top of the list of donors that President Trump will personally review tomorrow! Especially when you've always been there by his side and you're one of his most loyal supporters!

Let's stop the socialist Democrat Party and the RINOs today!

26 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

So this $250 million raised for the Election Defense Fund, do they have receipts on who sent money and how much?  I know there are about 50 million morons who will send him money, but $250m seems like quite a reach for that to be grassroots funded.  There had to be some substantial donations from companies, international people, etc that dumped money into this apparent slush fund.

You have to remember that they steal money by auto-enabling the recurring payment button and hiding it, so lots of those poor people ended up paying several times more money than they wanted to. 

2 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You have to remember that they steal money by auto-enabling the recurring payment button and hiding it, so lots of those poor people ended up paying several times more money than they wanted to. 

Yep.

Seriously, if you wrote up a generic list of "the hallmarks of a scam" -- in a totally neutral way, as a genuine tool to warn people about getting caught up in any number of scams -- every single fucking element would match up to the Trump Inc. action plan.  Every single fucking element.  It's fucking amazing.  It rings every single bell of "naked scam/grift!", yet people salivate for more.  We are the dumbest fucking species.  Even fish figure out artificial lures after a while and won't bite 'em anymore.

You could sit every one of these rubes down, tell them that Trump stole their money, explain that he did not use their contributions for the purposes he solicited the funds for, and was simply milking their dumb ass for easy money. And they would not fucking care. Team Trump is all that matters. And then Trump could email them all the next week asking for money to investigate voter fraud, and they will gladly give again. He's knows he can lie to these dumb fucks, he's been doing it for 6 years now with zero pushback. They want to be lied to as long as the lies reinforce what they want to hear. He's a confidence man and he's got a good con going. 

Just now, Blotto said:

He's a confidence man and he's got a good con going.

The most important element of every single con: having gullible marks.

Trump has that down.  He has 70 million of them.  He is literally the greatest con-man who ever lived.

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, instead of making drive-by posts and trying to be clever, why don't you explain to us why the 1/6 riot and related shenanigans by what appears to be your orange God are not worthy of public discussion?

Because your kind are always whinging elsewhere about no "honest debate" in CR, yet almost none of you come in for anything other than a snarky drive by.

Also, it probably bears mentioning that the 1/6 committee is nine people.  There are 426 other Representatives and 100 Senators, about 260 of whom are from your team.  What, exactly, are they doing about the "Down" and the price of gas? Hmmm?

I'll answer for you.

Shitposting on twitter.

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

You could sit every one of these rubes down, tell them that Trump stole their money, explain that he did not use their contributions for the purposes he solicited the funds for, and was simply milking their dumb ass for easy money. And they would not fucking care. Team Trump is all that matters. And then Trump could email them all the next week asking for money to investigate voter fraud, and they will gladly give again. He's knows he can lie to these dumb fucks, he's been doing it for 6 years now with zero pushback. They want to be lied to as long as the lies reinforce what they want to hear. He's a confidence man and he's got a good con going. 

They’re more than willing to pay for the “experience”, the “euphoria ” that comes from being told their racial grievance and anxiety are justified.

11 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

Says the guy who is desperate to change the narrative that he is a criminal and traitor to the Constitution.

3 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

You're way underestimating how important it is to be at the top of the list of donors that President Trump will personally review tomorrow! Especially when you've always been there by his side and you're one of his most loyal supporters!

Let's stop the socialist Democrat Party and the RINOs today!

Ok, so suppose that's true and the vast majority of that money came from actual donors believing in the cause and not some lobbyist/corps/foreigners looking for favors, 250 million is an astonishing amount of money to raise in a few months right AFTER an election. 

You would think if he had people willing to give that much to him, they would have done it during the election cycle to help him win, unless of course much of it was for other purposes. I don't believe that was legit small donors in droves, I would imagine a lot of corrupt money is laundered through there, but it also speaks to Trump's value to the GOP. They can't quit him because he's raising unprecedented amounts of money for them, they just have to go along with his crazy whims and close their eyes when getting handouts.  

7 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Ok, so suppose that's true and the vast majority of that money came from actual donors believing in the cause and not some lobbyist/corps/foreigners looking for favors, 250 million is an astonishing amount of money to raise in a few months right AFTER an election. 

You would think if he had people willing to give that much to him, they would have done it during the election cycle to help him win, unless of course much of it was for other purposes. I don't believe that was legit small donors in droves, I would imagine a lot of corrupt money is laundered through there, but it also speaks to Trump's value to the GOP. They can't quit him because he's raising unprecedented amounts of money for them, they just have to go along with his crazy whims and close their eyes when getting handouts.  

It was one of the ways they were laundering the pardon bribes

19 minutes ago, bluto said:

When does mike lindell enter the chat?

two weeks

From the Hill article on Trumps "response":

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One section of Trump’s statement focuses on ballot trafficking claims, for which he cites the Dinesh D’Souza documentary “2000 Mules.” In testimony shown earlier Monday, former Attorney General William Barr laughed at the mention of the film, saying he was “unimpressed with it” and dismissed the idea that it proved widespread fraud.

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“As we near the midterm elections, we’re watching the Swamp creatures circle the drain as true Americans step up to replace the corrupt Establishment with patriots who will fight for our freedoms,” Trump says in Monday’s 12-page statement.

 

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The Establishment is holding on as tightly as they can to their power as they watch it slip from their grasp. Our country is in a nosedive,” he continues. “Americans are struggling to fill their gas tanks, feed their babies, educate their children, hire employees, order supplies, protect our border from invasion, and a host of other tragedies that are 100% caused by Democrats who obtained power through a rigged election, and the people of our country are both angry and sad.”

He knows his audience. He understands the Big Lie. He plays his only real card: open rebellion against reality and, ultimately, the republic they believe they're saving. 

Ohhhh, how I miss the days when more people could discern irony.

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4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

From the CNN summary of Barr's testimony that was shown today:

Did Trump print out a tweet or 4chan post?

If we take Barr at his word, shouldn't an AG take action if they think the President has become detached from reality?

Spider Affidavit.

26 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

From the Hill article on Trumps "response":

 

He knows his audience. He understands the Big Lie. He plays his only real card: open rebellion against reality and, ultimately, the republic they believe they're saving. 

Ohhhh, how I miss the days when more people could discern irony.

It's amusing and terrifying that Trump relies on "evidence" generated 18 months after the fact, to justify his claims that the election was rigged.  And his supporters eat it up.  Like that fucking moron knows something they don't, or that actual smart people don't.

What is he, The Amazing Trumpkin?  A bald allegation without evidence remains a lie, even if something later proves it to be partially true.

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The most important element of every single con: having gullible marks.

Trump has that down.  He has 70 million of them.  He is literally the greatest con-man who ever lived.

Comes with an asterisk though. He couldn't maintain his hold to such an extent without complicit, self-serving media personalities and politicians on the right.

49 minutes ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

That's it Donny, keep doubling down.

It does feel like there will eventually be a Colonel Jessup moment.

It won't matter to half the country, but it's still likely to happen.

1 hour ago, Dutchrudder said:

Ok, so suppose that's true and the vast majority of that money came from actual donors believing in the cause and not some lobbyist/corps/foreigners looking for favors, 250 million is an astonishing amount of money to raise in a few months right AFTER an election. 

You would think if he had people willing to give that much to him, they would have done it during the election cycle to help him win, unless of course much of it was for other purposes. I don't believe that was legit small donors in droves, I would imagine a lot of corrupt money is laundered through there, but it also speaks to Trump's value to the GOP. They can't quit him because he's raising unprecedented amounts of money for them, they just have to go along with his crazy whims and close their eyes when getting handouts.  

The rubes didn't give him $250MM right after the election. That was dirty Russian money laundered through dotard's PAC.

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It does feel like there will eventually be a Colonel Jessup moment.

It won't matter to half the country, but it's still likely to happen.

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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

The rubes didn't give him $250MM right after the election. That was dirty Russian money laundered through dotard's PAC.

now you've done it

now you've done it

Both sides!

i've been traveling all day and am just seeing clips. these fucking idiots and cretins who were on the team to the very end sitting in their suits acting like very serious people with that dumb fucking look on their face explaining their dismay that Donald Trump was doing Donald Trump things that night.

Pretty amazing that Sean Hannity and Kayleigh McEnany texted about invoking the 25th Amendment on Donald Trump.  It kind of makes in understandable why Fox News didn't want to air the hearings.

4 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

 

tl/dr

12 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Whoa whoa whoa, here.  I mean.....we're not gonna be critical of guys 1) ditching the common sense and rational approach to something to instead 2) go with a plan cooked up by one of your super-shithammered buddies?  Because, ummm......I may be a bit defensive if that's how we're gonna go here.  Because reasons.

 

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What I think is most fascinating about the January 6th Committees investigation and finding of fact, is that nearly every single Republican you know will have avoided watching it, and would ALWAYS prefer to believe a LIE than to believe an actual truth that goes against their delusion based reality.

Nothing is going to change that.  And that is fucking scary as shit.  Republicans now largely do not have a basis of fact to base decision making on.  They avoid facts, and instead prefer endless "what about" musings based on non-fact based falsehoods.  I wish as a whole rank and file Republicans had a better grasp of history.  Because for those of us that were fascinated as kids about WWII and the origins, the ability to suspend reality, and find false grievances to rally around.  That's exactly how a former German elected official, became a dictator.  The similarities in the US today among a certain demographic of our country are scary to me.  They will believe almost any falsehood.  And that can be very, very dangerous to a Democracy.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, horn4life said:

What I think is most fascinating about the January 6th Committees investigation and finding of fact, is that nearly every single Republican you know will have avoided watching it, and would ALWAYS prefer to believe a LIE than to believe an actual truth that goes against their delusion based reality.

Nothing is going to change that.  And that is fucking scary as shit.  Republicans now largely do not have a basis of fact to base decision making on.  They avoid facts, and instead prefer endless "what about" musings based on non-fact based falsehoods.  I wish as a whole rank and file Republicans had a better grasp of history.  Because for those of us that were fascinated as kids about WWII and the origins, the ability to suspend reality, and find false grievances to rally around.  That's exactly how a former German elected official, became a dictator.  The similarities in the US today among a certain demographic of our country are scary to me.  They will believe almost any falsehood.  And that can be very, very dangerous to a Democracy.

 

 

It's really kind of a macrocosm of this place.  The righties can't come into Cloak Room and make much of a coherent defense of Trump or  Republicans.  They just bring in talking points and memes and run away when pantsed.

tl;dw:

1. Although Fox is trying to dismiss it, it's getting harder.

2. These are all Trump's people going after him. Very hard to deflect that.  

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