June 28Jun 28 I'm through episode 8 and have to agree with much of what has been said. But, I'm still enjoying it.
June 28Jun 28 5 hours ago, RPM said: I was just thinking "this music is fucking perfect." The songs are good, but they shouldn't be the prime provider of emotional content. That's pretty much the definition of a melodrama. Great music videos, but that's not why I watch.
June 29Jun 29 The show peaked with season 2. It happens. It's just been a bit of a letdown, not bad, just not as good, so somewhat disappointing. I binged through the first two seasons, but I'll stop after an episode or two now and take my time returning to it.Agreed. Love the show overall but seasons 1 and 2 are totally different in almost every aspect from seasons 3 and 4. I get it, the show, characters and restaurant has grown since then but I loved the chaos and the raw, gritty aspect of the early seasons.
June 29Jun 29 Finished it today. Some of it was a real beating to watch, but overall I liked it. The Marcus thing (didn't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it) was maybe the best part of the season.
June 30Jun 30 Binged over two days. More enjoyable than season 3. I hope they do a 5th, but would get it if it ends here. It was a fun ride overall.
June 30Jun 30 And so isn’t all of this mute aF? The timer went off. How are they going to pay bills? Brie Larsen Bikini Car Wash Co?
June 30Jun 30 44 minutes ago, huge said: And so isn’t all of this mute aF? The timer went off. How are they going to pay bills? Brie Larsen Bikini Car Wash Co? a giant fucking can of tomato sauce
June 30Jun 30 8 hours ago, huge said: And so isn’t all of this mute aF? The timer went off. How are they going to pay bills? Brie Larsen Bikini Car Wash Co? 52 minutes ago, nolongerU2horn said: Franchising The Beef That and in the last scene with Natalie and computer, it showed that they had moved from the black to green so they were turning a small profit. They said it was going to be day to day, but that they were heading in the tight direction.
June 30Jun 30 9 hours ago, huge said: How are they going to pay bills? Brie Larsen Bikini Car Wash Co?
June 30Jun 30 That was a good ending if it is over. They left themselves wiggle room in case they can do another season though. The money issue will be on the way to being fixed as soon as the franchise idea got relayed to everyone.
June 30Jun 30 I thought it was a great season. Season 3 was really bad, but this got the show back to what made it great. And for those saying the show insists on itself, you're not wrong, but it did in the first couple of seasons also and everyone loved it. Not much has changed in that regard.
June 30Jun 30 26 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said: I thought it was a great season. Season 3 was really bad, but this got the show back to what made it great. And for those saying the show insists on itself, you're not wrong, but it did in the first couple of seasons also and everyone loved it. Not much has changed in that regard. I watched the first two seasons with everyone else, but skipped the third last summer when I was in the process of moving. After seeing all the comments in this thread about how bad season 3 was, I never watched it. Do I need to watch season 3 to enjoy season 4, or can I just go find a recap of that season and proceed with 4?
June 30Jun 30 2 hours ago, kevwun said: They left themselves wiggle room in case they can do another season though. There has to be one more wedding.
June 30Jun 30 2 hours ago, bolverk said: I watched the first two seasons with everyone else, but skipped the third last summer when I was in the process of moving. After seeing all the comments in this thread about how bad season 3 was, I never watched it. Do I need to watch season 3 to enjoy season 4, or can I just go find a recap of that season and proceed with 4? You can probably get away with a recap. Season 4 had a lot of fantastic callbacks to previous episodes, but I don't think any of them were from season 3.
June 30Jun 30 3 hours ago, bolverk said: I watched the first two seasons with everyone else, but skipped the third last summer when I was in the process of moving. After seeing all the comments in this thread about how bad season 3 was, I never watched it. Do I need to watch season 3 to enjoy season 4, or can I just go find a recap of that season and proceed with 4? Honestly, you can just find a good recap that covers the season in chronological order on Youtube and it will get you up to speed. There was more filler in that season more than any other season. We do this a lot for shows we watch in real time with almost a year in between seasons. It helps to refresh on some of the stuff that happened.
June 30Jun 30 It started too slow and meandering/rinse and repeat, but 4.5 onward was nails. I loved the under the table gimmick frankly because the set kept getting bigger and bigger as more people were under there. Sure it’s a metaphor, insisting on itself whatever, but I felt it was kinda self aware when the Fak backed up to take the picture. I actually loved the conceit of the last episode just being those 3 and then Sugar comes out and validates Carmy without words. Will miss this as I don’t think it’s coming back. Hopefully not. Edited June 30Jun 30 by A-Tex Devil
July 1Jul 1 Only finished four episodes this season. I liked 3. It was stupidly sweet but at least that is something. With nothing happening the "methody" acting gets tiresome. Instead of just having a conversation, you have to get the two second "expression shot" before anyone says anything. Syd is the fucking worst. She has to do "bug eyes"/count to three in response to any communication. But they all do it. It's like the director is telling them to stretch out the conversations so they can reach their "minutes" quota.
July 1Jul 1 23 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said: It started too slow and meandering/rinse and repeat, but 4.5 onward was nails. I loved the under the table gimmick frankly because the set kept getting bigger and bigger as more people were under there. Sure it’s a metaphor, insisting on itself whatever, but I felt it was kinda self aware when the Fak backed up to take the picture. I actually loved the conceit of the last episode just being those 3 and then Sugar comes out and validates Carmy without words. Will miss this as I don’t think it’s coming back. Hopefully not. 16 minutes ago, mdmost said: Renewed for season 5. Well hot damn
July 1Jul 1 50 minutes ago, mdmost said: Renewed for season 5. Quote Will miss this as I don’t think it’s coming back. Hopefully not. I had to double check and make sure this wasn't a Helobious post.
July 1Jul 1 1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said: Well hot damn Disappointed as I liked the ending as a finale. But I’ll watch it. I feel like Carmy’s story is done
July 2Jul 2 The “All Syd” episode with the little girl had to be one of the most boring things ever shot for television. Awful. Just a complete waste of 35-40 odd minutes
July 2Jul 2 17 hours ago, mdmost said: Renewed for season 5. dumb. I know it's about printing money, but these shows are so much better when they leave on top.
July 2Jul 2 20 hours ago, BrazilHorn said: The “All Syd” episode with the little girl had to be one of the most boring things ever shot for television. Awful. Just a complete waste of 35-40 odd minutes While watching that episode with my wife, in the first ten minutes of the episode I said “it’s like she wrote this episode herself or something”……Sure enough my suspicions were confirmed in the credits. By far the worst episode of the season.
July 3Jul 3 On 6/30/2025 at 2:51 PM, MissingInAction said: Needs more Mulaney and Pratt, and less Sydney. Mulaney was fantastic. I could post the same about a slew of other characters and their chemistry. In bold stripes Ebon Moss-Bachrach absolutely killed it this season. I fucking love Tiff but admittedly, I've been cyber stalking her since Community. Sugar kills all her scenes. I really love this cast, but the chemistry Syd has with other characters is just lackluster, the writing and/or her acting make that character super annoying and if the next season focuses even more on her it might run me off. In all, I liked this season a lot, but Ayo's performance and Syd did a lot of damage for me. The best part of the Worms episode was the mom and her daughter, they were much more entertaining also: Spoiler I don't need 40 fucking minutes of Exposition about something I already knew. If an actor and writers need an entire episode of exposition to a child and her struggles to explain what's going on within the character they suck at their job.
July 3Jul 3 I binged the show from over the weekend, finished Wed. I really liked the season. I consider Seasons 3-4 to have been a part 1, part 2. Frankly I loved the show as we are starting to see growth from the characters. Syd still needs the most growth, but has her moments. Carm very much is growing as is the mom. I also loved the little touches, like spotted in the background of a scene. Glad this show is coming back for a 5th, none of the stories are done yet, except maybe Marcus. On 7/1/2025 at 7:30 PM, A-Tex Devil said: I feel like Carmy’s story is done The heck? It's barely gotten through the surface, there is still a long way to go for him. Hell, he isn't even close to done with the Bear yet.
July 3Jul 3 While watching that episode with my wife, in the first ten minutes of the episode I said “it’s like she wrote this episode herself or something”……Sure enough my suspicions were confirmed in the credits. By far the worst episode of the season. Sydney is a terrible character. About as bad a Beth Dutton in Yellowstone
July 3Jul 3 3 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said: 22 hours ago, Yev Kassem said: While watching that episode with my wife, in the first ten minutes of the episode I said “it’s like she wrote this episode herself or something”……Sure enough my suspicions were confirmed in the credits. By far the worst episode of the season. Sydney is a terrible character. About as bad a Beth Dutton in Yellowstone And with way worse tits. Actually I don't mind Syd. Y'all are a bunch of babies.
July 3Jul 3 12 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said: And with way worse tits. Actually I don't mind Syd. Y'all are a bunch of babies. Yeah, I don’t get the hate either. She is the amazing talented character with no self-confidence because once she jumped in the deep end with no help and sank like a rock. She’s exactly what she supposed to be. And I think Edebiri is playing her to the hilt.
July 3Jul 3 1 hour ago, Captain Ron said: Yeah, I don’t get the hate either. She is the amazing talented character with no self-confidence because once she jumped in the deep end with no help and sank like a rock. She’s exactly what she supposed to be. And I think Edebiri is playing her to the hilt. She is text book Mary Sue. Spoiler She doesn't have any of the notches on her belt that Luca has, yet now Luca is going to be in HER kitchen. She's working for what she claims is the best in Carm, yet all she does is bitch and has "surpassed him". She has an episode, an entire fucking episode of shitty acting, writing and exposition, over 2 choices any chef would beg for in LIFE and its a fucking PROBLEM for her. A problem for a fucking noob, that a seasoned pro would KILL to have one option in a career. She is supported consistently by Carm, yes he's difficult, but it fucks her up and she can't deal. News fucking flash, almost all top chefs are a mother fucker to work for and the show makes that point extremely clear. Spoiler She is offered Carm's baby and all she does is fucking bitch about it. He admits his errors, has changed his ways, apologizies to her, owns it and.... she doesn't want to listen to him, won't accept what he's saying. Basically, doesn't give a flying fuck about Carm's personal struggles. Oh, yeah, your problems suck and things are looking up, but you can't quit Carm! Fuck your real life issues Carm I dont want this once in a life time opportunity to take over a great existing staff that seems to be humming now. It's fucking annoying. Her choices as an actor suck. Her writing is way worse. Suck a worm! Edited July 3Jul 3 by BurntEyes
July 3Jul 3 1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said: And with way worse tits. Actually I don't mind Syd. Y'all are a bunch of babies. Sydney is a terrible character. It's fine, every show has one.
July 3Jul 3 2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said: And with way worse tits. Actually I don't mind Syd. Y'all are a bunch of babies. Lol, Syd is the cry baby in this equation. Spoiler I still like the show despite her, but have zero interest in a show built around her. Mark it, she becomes the center piece of the show, it tanks, fast! Edited July 3Jul 3 by BurntEyes
July 3Jul 3 Momentary derail... Ever in Chicago and want to hit some spots related to The Bear Armitage Orange Line L stop was featured several times this season. Go to that stop and hit: Marquee Lounge Absolutely the has the Sheffield area vibe and its right off the L. (Every neighborhood had a bit different vibe. The location where The Bear is located is in River North, my old hood. I recognize spots constantly.)
July 4Jul 4 On 7/1/2025 at 7:20 PM, BrazilHorn said: The “All Syd” episode with the little girl had to be one of the most boring things ever shot for television. Awful. Just a complete waste of 35-40 odd minutes Ayo is going to win an emmy for directing that ep.
July 4Jul 4 1 minute ago, Lazarus Bocanegra said: Ayo is going to win an emmy for directing that ep. She shouldn’t as it sucked. An hour of self indulgent, stupid dialogue that was some of the most boring television made.
July 5Jul 5 Got through The Bears yesterday, the wedding episode. It felt a little contrived, because they brought back so many extras and every aspect of the episode was positive instead of the usual conflict and dysfunction. But it was damn good, and my wife was crying at the end.
July 5Jul 5 Finished season 4 last night. I really enjoyed it. I think they brought things back around nicely. Not sure why Ayo is so disliked on here but I thought she did great. Syd is high functioning neurotic/probably autistic like Carmy. I think a lot of characters grew and this was about processing and dealing with their traumas. Interested to see where season 5 goes but I feel like we're going to wait a bit given the main 3 have loaded schedules coming up. The scene with Carmy and Lee in the kitchen was so well done. Lee went from being a bastard to someone who helped further un-stick Carmy. That scene allowed the final scene with Carmy, Syd, and Richie to happen and it was masterful. Edited July 5Jul 5 by mdmost
July 6Jul 6 Just finished as well. Fak could never be seen again and it would not be noticed but guess being a producer means he'll be back. Just not a fan of whatever he is. What boss/partner would let Syd drag out the partner agreement? That's irritating IMO. I'm neutral with her but I do wish that her real struggle ( as mentioned previously here) would not be having to make a great choice. She should just tell Shapiro to wait until that timer strikes 0 and decision will be made. We need more kitchen chaos and working through real day to day shit that happens in a place like that. Means more Carmy losing his shit. The Ritchie/Carmy drama is too high school for me. What guys act like this? Especially those that have known each other for so long? Maybe Ritchie will get to bang the expo girl next season. Jimmy is awesome. Don't think we appreciate Platt's acting enough. Took me a minute but Josh Hartnett has aged....differently. I'm back to liking Bree Larsen. At least for now. Finally, this is Carmys show. I think we get away from that a bit. I get it for last season as he was filming The Iron Claw right? But focus needs to stay on him and have the support as needed. Still like the show. Not much out there that I enjoy and will see it through.
July 6Jul 6 Is Marcus gay or just his realtor buddy or am I off on this? Edited July 6Jul 6 by RexWilson
July 6Jul 6 6 hours ago, Butch Had Not said: Fak could never be seen again and it would not be noticed but guess being a producer means he'll be back. Just not a fan of whatever he is.
July 6Jul 6 7 hours ago, RexWilson said: Is Marcus gay or just his realtor buddy or am I off on this? The friend, yes. Marcus, no. He awkwardly tried to ask out Sydney in season 2.
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