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Texas A&M Recruiting 2025: The Land of Melk & No Money

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3 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Which portal addition so far even looks like a guy that can give a solid contribution?  The Florida EDGE maybe?  Mario Craver?  Everyone else looks like a JAG.

Our two position portal takes have much more production/playing experience than anybody they've brought in.

They need a lot of help on the DL. Those jags from last night + portal additions are a major downgrade from Turner, Scourton, and Stewart. That is going to have a huge impact on their season next year. 

 

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Liucci

12/29/24

Okay if this wasn't the travel day from hell. As if USC's last second, come-from-way-behind win wasn't enough, how about two hours on the runway in Vegas plus another hour waiting for a gate at IAH followed by a 45-minute wait at baggage claim then a nice drive to College Station in the fog. On second thought, maybe that fog was just me dealing with the lingering effects of the game. Either way, had some time to answer questions and will hit a lot more tomorrow in addition to some kind of video content. Enjoy.

 

And forgive me for any typos, as this was written on the plane and with a faulty 'r' button on my keyboard! Just wanted to post it tonight as a normal thread rather than wait until the content crew could get it up tomorrow.

 

 

Do you expect any changes to the coaching staff?

Two things at work here. First one is that head coaches typically shy away from making changes following year one. That's especially true when the assistants essentially inherit their room. Times and circumstances are different now, however. We're in the portal era and the Aggies just dropped their last four games against Power 5 opposition and, for different reasons, each loss revealed real issues. Elko is not the type (at all) to sit back and accept what we saw down the stretch this fall so he's not likely to be bound by the "well this was year one and we're a new staff looking to turn things over" mantra others I've covered have been. Haven't heard of any specifics but I have been doing this a long time. I'd expect at least a slight degree of attrition whether it would a change from within or someone finding an opportunity elsewhere thus freeing up a spot. We'll know soon enough but I'm confident Elko will take a very honest look at how his staff performed in 2024 and have an uncomfortable conversation if he has to. And that's true for at any point during his tenure here.

 

What are your general thoughts and feelings right now both short and long term?

Long term I believe the guy coaching at Texas A&M is going to figure it out. I actually would like to sit down with him at TA more often this off-season so folks could learn a little more about the way he's running and building the program, day to day and big picture. It's part of why I'm confident he's the dude to get this thing going how it needs (and deserves) to be. But he has to get there, and doing so requires winning in the short-term. The Ags were doing that at a very impressive clip following Notre Dame but fell hard in November. So we're all adults here and understand that a lot of potential 'in the moment' momentum was lost by not winning a game or two more (winnable ones, at that) and shocking the country by appearing in Atlanta. I even think last night was a chance to score tangible momentum entering the off-season and the Ags didn't do that (in pretty embarrassing and discouraging fashion, no less). My short-term concern is this coming season because time waits for no coach or program in the SEC and the Ags are in need of a strong close to the portal season because there are real holes to fill (beyond just one more playmaking receiver and shoring up the d-line in a big way) and the schedule is much more unforgiving in 2025. Elko and Co. need to attack this second half of the early portal window in a big way.

 

 

Coaching changes? Thanks I'll hang up and listen.

See above. Feel like I'll be saying that a lot here.

 

 

What are the odds Bateman gets fired?

No idea on odds of such things but the head coach and DC clearly have a lot to figure out when you look at how the Ags played on that side of the ball for halves and/or full games all too often this season. And, injuries aside, the head-scratcher for me is the fact that Elko openly stated this off-season on more than one occasion how excited he was about this year's defense even compared to past A&M units he's coached. Definitely something the head man has to be very disappointed in when he looks back on this past season.

 

 

Outlook for next season?

See above. Concerned but also far from deflated or panicking. There really should be a noticeable year one to year two jump for a program under a new regime and also for a ton of individuals who will play key roles next fall. However, help also needs to arrive and if I'm Elko right now, I'm taking a hard look at every position. I know the Ags were without a lot of key figures on defense last night (three starting DL, two corners including your best and your best linebacker) but you also had guys you're planning to depend on next year on both sides playing who struggled mightily to make winning plays.

 

 

Why do you think the team collapsed after the LSU win?

Tough one to answer. I think first and foremost, they took a couple of big hits at South Carolina, not the least of which was their confidence and I believe they weren't the same team physically after that night. Losing Le'Veon Moss proved to a real killer and the Ags had also lost Bisontis a week prior. The interior ground game took such a big hit there and that was so important in terms of sustaining drives and even down near the goal line but also helping Marcel Reed along in his development as a passer. I'm just talking about keeping him out of bad situations. Scooby Williams missing time and being hut was also a big deal because he's the most active dude in that font seven and was beginning to look like a difference-maker.

 

However, I also think it's fair to say that the book was out on the Ags by the time November rolled around. Make Reed and the A&M passing game beat you down the field, sit on early-down runs and run right at the Aggie defense. South Carolina, Auburn and Texas did so with alarming degrees of success. The fact that Elko volunteered last night what was pretty obvious down the stretch was telling, as well. The inability to have the confidence to run very much zone is tough to overcome when playing against offenses with pass-catchers like the Ags saw versus Auburn and Texas in particular.

 

 

Who is on the next HC short list?

Look, I'm as disappointed as all of you are about the way things went after the LSU win but let's be productive with the conversations and stop acting like kids or like this is social media. I don't have the time or patience for it today and I'd also like to see less of this type of **** around here, not more.

 

 

Can Bateman be gone?

I guess this will be the last Bateman one I'll respond to. See above and unless the future ones include something other than "is he or will he be fired" I'll move on to some of the other stuff.

 

Realistically: How many staff changes (specifically) defense are we talking?

It's too early to tell. Like I said, I expect Elko to take a brutally honest look at how the season wrapped up. I'm not expecting some sort of overhaul on that side if that's what you're asking.

 

Did the offensive performance tonight help or hurt potential portal additions jumping in the boat going forward?

It probably didn't move the needle much either way. The Ags did move the ball and put up points (not enough) but I thought Reed showed nice progress in the passing game and the reality is A&M was a completely unnecessary INT and a short FG miss from putting up 41 points. Missed opportunities in the first half and a dry spell (a couple of ill-timed three and outs) in the second half definitely played a huge role in A&M not winning last night but the offense did produce. It was more like the Auburn game to me, where there was plenty to dissect and second-guess but the end result should have been more than enough points to win. regardless, the Ags need more firepower at the skill spots and need to continue to address that via the portal.

 

Thank you for all y'all do as staff.

Appreciate that. The goons like the ones who were run off last night will never win.

 

After the last 4 meaningful games, do you really see much of a culture change? Still had same sloppy penalties/missed tackles/drops etc and seemed to regress as the season went, especially on defense.

I did see penalties and missed tackles as ongoing issues but that's more playing clean football than it is culture. I really haven't seen anything at all to make me question the culture Elko has quickly instilled into his program. In a perfect world, with that hurdle cleared this season, the next step is playing cleaner, better football in all phases of the game. It's not guaranteed but we've learned this program isn't getting there without guys doing it the right way in terms of not cheating the work and not buying in. Losing close games doesn't tell you where the culture is, it's more about a team learning what it takes to win by playing winning football with the game on the line. It's part of it for sure, but I think this group and program have a lot further to go in the learning to win department than culture.

 

Serious look at the coaching staff: Which coordinators or other staff do you keep or kick to the curb. They're paid millions of dollars to coach a team to win. Grace period is over.

Agree on the paid handsomely and paid to win part of it. I also don't really think they had a grace period with Coach Elko. I don't speculate on who or how many but I do see a lot Klein-related stuff here and on social media and think he did a better job (better, not saying it was elite) than most give him credit for. He has to take the next step next year and will have to bring his talented but still-learning QB with him but the offense has a real chance to make a sizeable jump.

 

Any chance Elko spends some time with Dan Campbell this offseason? His first season in Detroit was obviously much rougher but did have a few similarities as far as not being able to get over the hump…

I think you're probably referencing Dan's second year in Detroit. Interestingly enough, I've floated the idea to both coaches and would love to facilitate the two sitting down during the off-season.

 

Any idea why we continue to run into a loaded box? Or for a broader question, what's with the offensive play calling running so hot/cold it seemed.

That's a question I really can't answer. Not sure how much of that is straight play-calling or the reason why behind it or how much is freedom given to Reed and the Aggie QBs at the LOS. It's definitely a question worth asking in an honest off-season conversation.

 

Will we ever become a top notch program? Doesn't feel like it at the moment

It's felt like it only two or three times since R.C. left, right? And yes, I do think it gets there. Support is at an all-time high in terms of resources and the NIL climate still favors A&M a great deal. And no one wants to hear it but it's year one. Rough ending and some real questions that need to be answered after the way the team finished but that was a solid first season and not only that folks should walk away feeling hopeless after watching.

 

Are you surprised by the end of season collapse and struggling defense?

On some levels, no. I was pretty nervous about the road matchups with South Carolina and Auburn because you knew the Ags still weren't operating with much of a margin for error. Obviously Texas was a monster coming into Kyle Field. But, yes, I was surprised by how the defense played during the thee-game SEC skid. I hated seeing that unit flounder last night after giving up seven fist half points but the reality is that was a unit consisting of half of your 2s. It's the other three that surprised me.

 

Was Elko talking directly to Bateman with his post-game comments?

I don't think that's his style really. He and Jay have a good relationship and he doesn't have to air him out in the media to get a point across. I think that was a frustrated head coach who hasn't liked what he's seen from the Aggie pass defense most of this season and I'm sure it's parts his assistant coaches, parts his players and also frustration in that he was unable to fix it.

 

USC offense all in the portal. Defense can't come through. Send Bateman packing?

Look, that A&M defense was depleted missing three NFL-bound defensive linemen, the most disruptive linebacker in Scooby Williams and then two corners including the team's best cover man (Will Lee). So I went into the game expecting to see the Aggies give ups some plays and, quite possibly north of 30 points. The issue last night wasn't the point total, it was how USC got there. Seven points at the half before we saw a completely inexperienced quarterback who was NOT playing good football and an offense hit very hard by attrition suddenly cut through the Ags like a hot knife through butter. To the tune of 28 second half points and 21 in the fourth quarter, including moving straight down the field with alarming ease for the game-winning score. It wasn't that I expected a lot out of a pretty depleted defense, it's the fact that the Ags were so bad when it mattered most with some important 2025 pieces and several starters out there letting it happen. Somehow, someway, the players needed to step up and get those second-half and certainly the final-drive stop and it's also up to the coaches to figure out how to make that happen.

 

And I know no one wants to hear it but the NFL opt outs and injuries were a big reason for last night's struggles. The problem as I see it is that the Ags struggled mightily in one way or another in each of their last four games down the stretch. South Carolina put up 44 because the Ags couldn't tackle, Auburn's offense produced a season-high in regulation points and marched the field to force OT and Texas ran wild at Kyle Field and controlled the action via the ground and pound.

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The fact that Liucci checks bags for a game trip to Las Vegas is more incredible than his sports takes. 

57 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Any chance Elko spends some time with Dan Campbell this offseason? His first season in Detroit was obviously much rougher but did have a few similarities as far as not being able to get over the hump…

I think you're probably referencing Dan's second year in Detroit. Interestingly enough, I've floated the idea to both coaches and would love to facilitate the two sitting down during the off-season.

Looch to facilitate an aggy meeting of the minds!

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3 hours ago, WBT said:

Looch to facilitate an aggy meeting of the minds!

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The fact that important people answer the phone when Looch calls is astounding. And perfectly explains why aggy will always be 8-4.

4 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

The fact that Liucci checks bags for a game trip to Las Vegas is more incredible than his sports takes. 

He has to pack extra clown noses and ankle boots. 

Thank you, @Longhornfrenzy, as always.

Now William Liucci speaks of the situation. He refers to Coach Culture as a dude.

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William Starfucker wants to get chummy with Elko or at least appear to be chummy with Head Coach Belch. In case he is reading the column, William butters up his soon-to-be close personal friend (who likes butter a lot!) with a ringing endorsement at this very dark hour.

 

Now, William on winning:

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  1. No shit, Bill.
  2. Who are you quoting and what does in the moment momentum mean? How does it differ from regular momentum?
  3. So it is with all forms of momentum.
  4. One imagines the country with mouths agape and eyes filled with excited admiration of the giant awakening. Everyone would be talking about A&M. "How did a dog ass team like that get to the SEC championship game? They need to take a look at their selection process."
  5. Tangible momentum? William doesn't understand either word, apparently. It's right up there with NIL on the list of things Aggies don't understand.
  6. No shit, Bill.

 

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Gonna be a big jump for the team and players currently on the roster. But, you gotta hit the portal hard because of all the shitty players we have.

 

Here's an interesting rumination on the separation of culture and good football:

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Um, what's the proof of a good culture? I'm no football genius, but playing disciplined football might be an indicator. Elko said the same thing in his post game remarks. The culture is in, so good football is next.

Everybody over there said the new culture had taken hold in the summer (Looky! We have all the players at practice today!) The players said so, too. They still played pretty shitty football. I think the grasp of culture over there is similar to their grasp of NIL and momentum.

 

Here's a terrific idea!

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I'm sure they're both grateful to you, William. 

You know, Coach Elko, maybe you could talk to my close personal friend Dave Campbell. Might do you good and drive away some of the sadness.

I assume you mean Dan Campbell. Sure, (urp) I'll get right on that.

Hi Coach Campbell, it's Loochi.

(long, long silence)

Billy Liucci.

(long, long silence)

You the asshole that my girl has been dating that's always asking for a sideline pass? Listen, Bub-

No! Billy Li-uuu-cci. Owner and Editor and Proprietor of TexAgs.

O God, what do you want?

I was thinking you and Coach Elko could get together to talk about his rough season.

That's a result of thinking?

Yessir. I'll facilitate the meeting if you like. My mom's house would work perfectly.

I'll put you on the line with my personal assistant.

(dial tone) 

Hmmm. Must have messed up the transfer.

 

This whole idea reminded me of how TexAgs produced a number of posts suggesting Calzeda be hosted at a BBQ by Aggie fathers and distinguished corps guys who would buck him up and give him tips on manly manfulness.

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7 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

The fact that Liucci checks bags for a game trip to Las Vegas is more incredible than his sports takes. 

The fact that I could get on a chartered flight to an A&M game and Looch can't, is sending me.

7 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

The fact that Liucci checks bags for a game trip to Las Vegas is more incredible than his sports takes. 

You think he wants to take his dildos through security screening and the x-ray machine? 

Dan Campbell is the only guy that could fix them. Thank goodness he’s entrenched as a successful NFL HC, and he’ll likely never have to take a step back in his career. 

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50 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Dan Campbell is the only guy that could fix them. Thank goodness he’s entrenched as a successful NFL HC, and he’ll likely never have to take a step back in his career. 

Eh, NFL coaching and NCAA coaching are entirely different animals. Pure coach versus total program manager.

53 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Dan Campbell is the only guy that could fix them. Thank goodness he’s entrenched as a successful NFL HC, and he’ll likely never have to take a step back in his career. 

I have as much college coaching experience as Dan Campbell.

10 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Eh, NFL coaching and NCAA coaching are entirely different animals. Pure coach versus total program manager.

Agreed but Campbell would crush it as a recruiter and fund raiser which most NFL guys hate. Good thing he’s never going to coach aggy. 

12 minutes ago, NoName said:

I have as much college coaching experience as Dan Campbell.

Good to know

23 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Their DBs are horrible as you saw last night. This is called desperation. 

Add Denver Harris to make the horrible DB "better".

Bond strategy.  Cotton. Let's see how this plays out. 

Sucked at aggy, sucked at LSU, sucked at UTSA, and how will hopefully come full circle ans continue his toxic behavior. I'm sure Ellk will whip in to shape in no time. Until he portals out in the spring windows to land at Alabama A$M only to go undrafted and out of football immediately. 

What's his backup plan? Go the Ksndall Jones,

"You think he wants to take his dildos through security screening and the x-ray machine?"

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4 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Dan Campbell is the only guy that could fix them. Thank goodness he’s entrenched as a successful NFL HC, and he’ll likely never have to take a step back in his career. 

Wasn't the rumor that they thought he would come running when they fired Jimbo?

5 minutes ago, WBT said:

Wasn't the rumor that they thought he would come running when they fired Jimbo?

Fan fiction. I think even Looch threw cold water on it immediately. 

4 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Dan Campbell is the only guy that could fix them. Thank goodness he’s entrenched as a successful NFL HC, and he’ll likely never have to take a step back in his career. 

When you say fix them do you mean 9-3 or do you mean they get female cheerleaders. Aggy would have to admit being broken so he could fix them and that ain’t happening anytime soon. 

12 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

The fact that Liucci checks bags for a game trip to Las Vegas is more incredible than his sports takes. 

Needs room for all that butt lube.

16 hours ago, texifornia said:

Eh, NFL coaching and NCAA coaching are entirely different animals. Pure coach versus total program manager.

Watch this space with Stanford, I posted about it a bit on the general football board.  They’ve hired Drew Luck as head of football operations with the HC reporting to him. I think it’s an interesting move and am sure other P5 schools are watching.  With NIL and the portal, roster and budget management are now such a huge part of the game, it’s right for someone with a moneyball mentality to come in and let the HC just do Xs and Os and some of the happy side of recruiting. 
 

The experiment could be a dead end but trying it out was inevitable. 

Liucci 


Segment 1 (00:00:00 - 09:20:19)

I am not happy with the way things finished. No one should be. If the people in the building across the street weren't really disappointed by it, then it's the wrong coaches and players. I don't believe that is the case. They were working yesterday because they know it is not good enough.
 

I don't expect anyone to be happy about it. Where I draw my personal line is if you are going to be an ass, then I will take you being an ass and raise you the biggest jerk you have ever seen. I treat people well, but I treat you how you treat me. People in real life are nice. People on a site, whether on TexAgs or any website, become an outlet for this inner jackass. I have no time for those people. It's a very small but very loud percentage.
 

The normal sports fan is pissed about the way the season went. I am, too. It's different covering the team, but for all the people who flew out to South Carolina, Auburn or Vegas or paid top dollar to watch A&M-Texas, it's very disappointing. It's frustrating. If you want to get angry about it, I get it. A lot of people devote a lot of time, resources and energy towards helping the program win. I get all of that.
 

Where I draw my line is when you don't have the right to expect people to not say, "I don't want to hear that." If you don't want to hear anything positive, don't listen to it. If it's not negative enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. The way to go here is to be calm, rational and honest, but see the big picture and be fair about it.
 

For the people who get mad about someone not being angry enough, listen to the words and conversation. If that is not enough for you, then don't listen. We are being more than fair and plenty critical.
 

There are things to be optimistic about. If you want to say you don't want to go there yet and be hopeful... Look, you got some nice wide receivers they are adding from the portal, and they are keeping key players with NIL. They are doing a great job with player retention. They signed a top-10 2025 class. They are doing nice things in the portal, and if they can finish off the defensive line, you feel really good. I wonder if there is room for another linebacker or defensive back. I would find myself another Scooby Williams-type.
 

At times, I saw enough from the offense where you go, "I need to see it to believe it, and I am not going to buy in." I get that. To look at it logically and not expect a noticeable improvement in year one to year two, I think you are letting your anger get in the way. The personnel and the quarterback are plugged into where we are now and what he should be next year. If that is not for you, that's fine, but don't crap on anybody that frankly is trying to look ahead and see where the team should be better. There are plenty of reasons to say this thing should certainly work, and it is fair to say.
 

If you guys don't think I am frustrated, or Nuño isn’t, or people at A&M aren’t, everybody is. It is what it is. There are a lot of college programs sitting in this position right now. A&M is in a unique position in that a lot is poured into this. It's year one of a head coach. There were ups and downs, and the downs were at the end of the season.

Segment 2 (09:20:20 - 16:29:10)

Everybody wants to be right. People will magically forget when they are wrong and tell you when they are right.
 

2021 was the early time people were getting on Jimbo Fisher. A year after that was an 8-4 season with a win over Alabama with a backup QB. Who would have known you would continue to have backup QBs with a bad offensive line? You didn't know that after 2021. You guessed right if you were out on Fisher after 2021. You probably guessed a lot of things wrong, too. I am wrong, too. But I am right a lot, and angry fans will never point that out.
 

All of this is fine if you are not a jackass. If you run a Twitter account and are A&M-related and want to take a shot at us, I will not engage with that. I am not giving you a platform. If you are a site I don't respect, and most of them I do, but there are a couple that like to take shots at us. The door is right there. We don't do that on social media. We can have a conversation. It’s a failed effort if you try and bait me.

Segment 3 (16:29:11 - 31:03:27)

In Dan Campbell's first year with the Lions, they were 3-13. It doesn't happen overnight for a lot of people. Both things can be true. In its totality in year one, for any first-year coach, you can go down the list of things they did accomplish. All of you know it, and you choose to acknowledge it, or you don't. There is a reality of how you finished, and it should be. It dulls the enthusiasm. I am not just a fan, but I am a fan. I am a fan of the Astros.
 

Some of you would love a show where we went crazy. It would get tiresome. The fans that want to crap on everything forever, it gets tiresome. Fans that want to be pissed watching A&M lose its fourth Power 4 game in a row, I get it. Everybody is mad.
 

I get the anger, frustration and disappointment. I am not going to tell anyone that they shouldn't feel that way. The overwhelming majority appreciates our words and the show. I don't care if you don't like it. 8-5 in year one is not bad. Not good, but not bad. Better than a lot of teams historically around this league. People don't want to hear that now, but you know it's true. You were 8-5, but two of the wins were against top-10 teams. "But it was Missouri and LSU." That's not how we do it. 8-5 with four wins over teams with winning records. In the last three years combined, A&M won four games against SEC teams with winning records. This year, A&M beat Missouri, LSU, Florida and Arkansas. This is not a parade thing. The point is that there was an improvement in this program. The problem is the end of the season didn't make it feel like it. The reality is they lost two games basically on a play. They should’ve beat USC. They should have beaten Auburn. You should have won them.
 

A&M is not "a lot more talented" than South Carolina. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Auburn. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Florida. Florida couldn't get it figured out. They are getting pillaged in the portal. You look at A&M and see the defensive line talent then you look around and go, "Where are the NFL Draft picks?" They will be young guys. Guys like Chase Bisontis and Le'Veon Moss, but where were they outside of the defensive line and say, "That's a lay-down NFL guy”?
 

You should have beat Auburn and USC. That's why you are frustrated. You know they should have been able to get a yard in three tries against Texas. You know that game should have been 17-14 with six or so minutes left. Then you put real pressure on that offense and Quinn Ewers. You get the 100,000 people that came to your stadium to root you on and be a real factor. You know those those things should have happened. That's why you are discouraged.
 

It doesn't mean throwing the whole thing in the dumpster. It doesn't mean no one can have any optimism moving forward. Any player can go into the portal and make more money than they make on their current team. There will come a point where Texas, in the playoff run, will have conversations about whether they should keep a player because he is asking for "this." If the answer is "no," if they leave, they will probably get paid more than they would've gotten to stay at Texas.
 

These guys that are staying, it’s not because of money. They could get paid anywhere. They are staying because they have optimism about where it’s heading. The recruits and portal commits have optimism. It's not a guarantee that this passing game will explode. Marcel Reed has to continue to develop, which, by the way, I thought he played a lot better. He has a ways to go. He was a freshman.
 

These receivers have a lot of confidence in this passing game and quarterback moving forward.
 

It's not unacceptable to talk about the future. You can do both and say, that sucked. But you can say the year was not a disaster, and it was a solid first season. Year two, to me, is the hardest one because the expectation is to make a jump. This team needs to figure out a way to win nine games. Go win a bowl game and be 10-3 next year. You look at the schedule, and it will be hard to do. NIL, you are up there. The expectation is to make a significant jump in year two with what I think is a harder schedule and three defensive linemen that went to the NFL

7 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

You should have beat Auburn and USC. That's why you are frustrated. You know they should have been able to get a yard in three tries against Texas. You know that game should have been 17-14 with six or so minutes left. Then you put real pressure on that offense and Quinn Ewers. You get the 100,000 people that came to your stadium to root you on and be a real factor. You know those those things should have happened. That's

So why “should” any of those things happened?

and if they “should” have happened but didn’t, why isn’t that an indictment on the team and coaches?

35 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So why “should” any of those things happened?

and if they “should” have happened but didn’t, why isn’t that an indictment on the team and coaches?

You’re doing it all wrong. It’s like this:

“We should’ve made those field goals and won the SEC Championship.”

Then, “That was our SEC Championship, or should’ve been.”

Then, “2024, our SEC Championship year...”

See how it works? 

1 hour ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

This team needs to figure out a way to win nine games. Go win a bowl game and be 10-3 next year.

Set the expectation at 10 wins, despite the fact that TAMU has won 10 games in a season once in the last 25 years, and a total of 12 times in the 130 years of TAMU football. Never change, Liucci.

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2 hours ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Liucci 


Segment 1 (00:00:00 - 09:20:19)

I am not happy with the way things finished. No one should be. If the people in the building across the street weren't really disappointed by it, then it's the wrong coaches and players. I don't believe that is the case. They were working yesterday because they know it is not good enough.
 

I don't expect anyone to be happy about it. Where I draw my personal line is if you are going to be an ass, then I will take you being an ass and raise you the biggest jerk you have ever seen. I treat people well, but I treat you how you treat me. People in real life are nice. People on a site, whether on TexAgs or any website, become an outlet for this inner jackass. I have no time for those people. It's a very small but very loud percentage.
 

The normal sports fan is pissed about the way the season went. I am, too. It's different covering the team, but for all the people who flew out to South Carolina, Auburn or Vegas or paid top dollar to watch A&M-Texas, it's very disappointing. It's frustrating. If you want to get angry about it, I get it. A lot of people devote a lot of time, resources and energy towards helping the program win. I get all of that.
 

Where I draw my line is when you don't have the right to expect people to not say, "I don't want to hear that." If you don't want to hear anything positive, don't listen to it. If it's not negative enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. The way to go here is to be calm, rational and honest, but see the big picture and be fair about it.
 

For the people who get mad about someone not being angry enough, listen to the words and conversation. If that is not enough for you, then don't listen. We are being more than fair and plenty critical.
 

There are things to be optimistic about. If you want to say you don't want to go there yet and be hopeful... Look, you got some nice wide receivers they are adding from the portal, and they are keeping key players with NIL. They are doing a great job with player retention. They signed a top-10 2025 class. They are doing nice things in the portal, and if they can finish off the defensive line, you feel really good. I wonder if there is room for another linebacker or defensive back. I would find myself another Scooby Williams-type.
 

At times, I saw enough from the offense where you go, "I need to see it to believe it, and I am not going to buy in." I get that. To look at it logically and not expect a noticeable improvement in year one to year two, I think you are letting your anger get in the way. The personnel and the quarterback are plugged into where we are now and what he should be next year. If that is not for you, that's fine, but don't crap on anybody that frankly is trying to look ahead and see where the team should be better. There are plenty of reasons to say this thing should certainly work, and it is fair to say.
 

If you guys don't think I am frustrated, or Nuño isn’t, or people at A&M aren’t, everybody is. It is what it is. There are a lot of college programs sitting in this position right now. A&M is in a unique position in that a lot is poured into this. It's year one of a head coach. There were ups and downs, and the downs were at the end of the season.

Segment 2 (09:20:20 - 16:29:10)

Everybody wants to be right. People will magically forget when they are wrong and tell you when they are right.
 

2021 was the early time people were getting on Jimbo Fisher. A year after that was an 8-4 season with a win over Alabama with a backup QB. Who would have known you would continue to have backup QBs with a bad offensive line? You didn't know that after 2021. You guessed right if you were out on Fisher after 2021. You probably guessed a lot of things wrong, too. I am wrong, too. But I am right a lot, and angry fans will never point that out.
 

All of this is fine if you are not a jackass. If you run a Twitter account and are A&M-related and want to take a shot at us, I will not engage with that. I am not giving you a platform. If you are a site I don't respect, and most of them I do, but there are a couple that like to take shots at us. The door is right there. We don't do that on social media. We can have a conversation. It’s a failed effort if you try and bait me.

Segment 3 (16:29:11 - 31:03:27)

In Dan Campbell's first year with the Lions, they were 3-13. It doesn't happen overnight for a lot of people. Both things can be true. In its totality in year one, for any first-year coach, you can go down the list of things they did accomplish. All of you know it, and you choose to acknowledge it, or you don't. There is a reality of how you finished, and it should be. It dulls the enthusiasm. I am not just a fan, but I am a fan. I am a fan of the Astros.
 

Some of you would love a show where we went crazy. It would get tiresome. The fans that want to crap on everything forever, it gets tiresome. Fans that want to be pissed watching A&M lose its fourth Power 4 game in a row, I get it. Everybody is mad.
 

I get the anger, frustration and disappointment. I am not going to tell anyone that they shouldn't feel that way. The overwhelming majority appreciates our words and the show. I don't care if you don't like it. 8-5 in year one is not bad. Not good, but not bad. Better than a lot of teams historically around this league. People don't want to hear that now, but you know it's true. You were 8-5, but two of the wins were against top-10 teams. "But it was Missouri and LSU." That's not how we do it. 8-5 with four wins over teams with winning records. In the last three years combined, A&M won four games against SEC teams with winning records. This year, A&M beat Missouri, LSU, Florida and Arkansas. This is not a parade thing. The point is that there was an improvement in this program. The problem is the end of the season didn't make it feel like it. The reality is they lost two games basically on a play. They should’ve beat USC. They should have beaten Auburn. You should have won them.
 

A&M is not "a lot more talented" than South Carolina. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Auburn. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Florida. Florida couldn't get it figured out. They are getting pillaged in the portal. You look at A&M and see the defensive line talent then you look around and go, "Where are the NFL Draft picks?" They will be young guys. Guys like Chase Bisontis and Le'Veon Moss, but where were they outside of the defensive line and say, "That's a lay-down NFL guy”?
 

You should have beat Auburn and USC. That's why you are frustrated. You know they should have been able to get a yard in three tries against Texas. You know that game should have been 17-14 with six or so minutes left. Then you put real pressure on that offense and Quinn Ewers. You get the 100,000 people that came to your stadium to root you on and be a real factor. You know those those things should have happened. That's why you are discouraged.
 

It doesn't mean throwing the whole thing in the dumpster. It doesn't mean no one can have any optimism moving forward. Any player can go into the portal and make more money than they make on their current team. There will come a point where Texas, in the playoff run, will have conversations about whether they should keep a player because he is asking for "this." If the answer is "no," if they leave, they will probably get paid more than they would've gotten to stay at Texas.
 

These guys that are staying, it’s not because of money. They could get paid anywhere. They are staying because they have optimism about where it’s heading. The recruits and portal commits have optimism. It's not a guarantee that this passing game will explode. Marcel Reed has to continue to develop, which, by the way, I thought he played a lot better. He has a ways to go. He was a freshman.
 

These receivers have a lot of confidence in this passing game and quarterback moving forward.
 

It's not unacceptable to talk about the future. You can do both and say, that sucked. But you can say the year was not a disaster, and it was a solid first season. Year two, to me, is the hardest one because the expectation is to make a jump. This team needs to figure out a way to win nine games. Go win a bowl game and be 10-3 next year. You look at the schedule, and it will be hard to do. NIL, you are up there. The expectation is to make a significant jump in year two with what I think is a harder schedule and three defensive linemen that went to the NFL


That's a lot of words to say "We suck. We have always sucked. We always will suck. It's tradition."

Comparing them to Dan Campbell and the lions. They will eat that shit up

7 minutes ago, Updawg said:

Comparing them to Dan Campbell and the lions. They will eat that shit up

That was a Billy special for sure.  He's truly elite at knowing his audience.

34 minutes ago, Updawg said:

Comparing them to Dan Campbell and the lions. They will eat that shit up


On the other hand, by this time next year, me and my posse of folks with TexAgs socks are going to be claiming that, last year, Billy said that Elko is the next Dan Campbell and that A&M is the new Lions. Watch and learn.

William's a weird guy.

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Is he saying he will adopt asses and raise them to be big jerks? He should really consult Olin, TexAgs Poet Laureate, about communicating in English.

One of the greatest sentences ever written/uttered:

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Fascinating. I think now we all have a clear understanding of where William draws his line. He surely knows about rights!

 

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Nice things. You feel really good. Nice. There's that top 10 class which is about 7th in the SEC. Nice. Great job with player retention. Nice. The MAC and Missouri Valley conferences aren't getting their guys back! Feelin' good. Optimism. Have another gummy.

 

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1 William is off script. It's Sark's first year that they compare themselves to. Standby for confused parrots.

2 What doesn't?

3 Both what things? Starting 3-13 and something not happening overnight? Those are the same things.

4 In its totality? What? Both things? 

5 There is a reality of how you finished, and it should be. WTF? 

6 Is there somebody else in the room that nobody but William sees? 

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7 Inside, William has contradictions. An enema wrapped in an igmo struggling to connect thoughts and words.

 

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Yes! You don't want to apply real pressure until just the right moment. That right moment is when the score is 17-14 in a game you lost 17-7 where your coach says you were physically annihilated. If only that perfect moment to apply pressure had happened. Sadly, the real pressure stayed in the holster.

 

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Interesting premise, William. I'm sure you're right.

 

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It's certainly that and not:

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I'm beginning to think Olin or William's mom or maybe even Dreamy Brauny should review the meaning of "both" to William. William owns the double negative, though.

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1 hour ago, Updawg said:

Comparing them to Dan Campbell and the lions. They will eat that shit up

He had to quit with the Sarkisian and Saban comparisons because those were pissing everyone off. He still has to make excuses and buy Elko time since he wants to keep his personal access.

7 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

I guess the couple of Georgia transfers they picked up are not optimistic about Georgia’s future?

They just wanted to go where the money doesn't matter as much as being an Aggie and being optimistic. Nice.

On 12/29/2024 at 11:53 PM, Doc Daneeka said:

The fact that Liucci checks bags for a game trip to Las Vegas is more incredible than his sports takes. 

He can never get his Flowbee through TSA

He knows damn well they are going to struggle to get to 6 wins let alone 9 regular season wins. Their road schedule is brutal, they will likely be double digit dogs to ND and Texas, while LSU, Missouri, and Arkansas will likely be favorites. Then they get Florida, South Carolina, and Auburn at home and all 3 of those teams likely have better rosters than they will.

1 minute ago, HtownHorn said:

He knows damn well they are going to struggle to get to 6 wins let alone 9 regular season wins. Their road schedule is brutal, they will likely be double digit dogs to ND and Texas, while LSU, Missouri, and Arkansas will likely be favorites. Then they get Florida, South Carolina, and Auburn at home and all 3 of those teams likely have better rosters than they will.

Don't get suckered into this. They’re not Texas 8 and 4 for no reason 

Just on the psychological side, you have to think that losing road games and collapsing in November are going to become hurdles. You get into that "here we go again" mindset that's hard to break out of. 

6 hours ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

Liucci 


Segment 1 (00:00:00 - 09:20:19)

I am not happy with the way things finished. No one should be. If the people in the building across the street weren't really disappointed by it, then it's the wrong coaches and players. I don't believe that is the case. They were working yesterday because they know it is not good enough.
 

I don't expect anyone to be happy about it. Where I draw my personal line is if you are going to be an ass, then I will take you being an ass and raise you the biggest jerk you have ever seen. I treat people well, but I treat you how you treat me. People in real life are nice. People on a site, whether on TexAgs or any website, become an outlet for this inner jackass. I have no time for those people. It's a very small but very loud percentage.
 

The normal sports fan is pissed about the way the season went. I am, too. It's different covering the team, but for all the people who flew out to South Carolina, Auburn or Vegas or paid top dollar to watch A&M-Texas, it's very disappointing. It's frustrating. If you want to get angry about it, I get it. A lot of people devote a lot of time, resources and energy towards helping the program win. I get all of that.
 

Where I draw my line is when you don't have the right to expect people to not say, "I don't want to hear that." If you don't want to hear anything positive, don't listen to it. If it's not negative enough for you, I don't know what to tell you. The way to go here is to be calm, rational and honest, but see the big picture and be fair about it.
 

For the people who get mad about someone not being angry enough, listen to the words and conversation. If that is not enough for you, then don't listen. We are being more than fair and plenty critical.
 

There are things to be optimistic about. If you want to say you don't want to go there yet and be hopeful... Look, you got some nice wide receivers they are adding from the portal, and they are keeping key players with NIL. They are doing a great job with player retention. They signed a top-10 2025 class. They are doing nice things in the portal, and if they can finish off the defensive line, you feel really good. I wonder if there is room for another linebacker or defensive back. I would find myself another Scooby Williams-type.
 

At times, I saw enough from the offense where you go, "I need to see it to believe it, and I am not going to buy in." I get that. To look at it logically and not expect a noticeable improvement in year one to year two, I think you are letting your anger get in the way. The personnel and the quarterback are plugged into where we are now and what he should be next year. If that is not for you, that's fine, but don't crap on anybody that frankly is trying to look ahead and see where the team should be better. There are plenty of reasons to say this thing should certainly work, and it is fair to say.
 

If you guys don't think I am frustrated, or Nuño isn’t, or people at A&M aren’t, everybody is. It is what it is. There are a lot of college programs sitting in this position right now. A&M is in a unique position in that a lot is poured into this. It's year one of a head coach. There were ups and downs, and the downs were at the end of the season.

Segment 2 (09:20:20 - 16:29:10)

Everybody wants to be right. People will magically forget when they are wrong and tell you when they are right.
 

2021 was the early time people were getting on Jimbo Fisher. A year after that was an 8-4 season with a win over Alabama with a backup QB. Who would have known you would continue to have backup QBs with a bad offensive line? You didn't know that after 2021. You guessed right if you were out on Fisher after 2021. You probably guessed a lot of things wrong, too. I am wrong, too. But I am right a lot, and angry fans will never point that out.
 

All of this is fine if you are not a jackass. If you run a Twitter account and are A&M-related and want to take a shot at us, I will not engage with that. I am not giving you a platform. If you are a site I don't respect, and most of them I do, but there are a couple that like to take shots at us. The door is right there. We don't do that on social media. We can have a conversation. It’s a failed effort if you try and bait me.

Segment 3 (16:29:11 - 31:03:27)

In Dan Campbell's first year with the Lions, they were 3-13. It doesn't happen overnight for a lot of people. Both things can be true. In its totality in year one, for any first-year coach, you can go down the list of things they did accomplish. All of you know it, and you choose to acknowledge it, or you don't. There is a reality of how you finished, and it should be. It dulls the enthusiasm. I am not just a fan, but I am a fan. I am a fan of the Astros.
 

Some of you would love a show where we went crazy. It would get tiresome. The fans that want to crap on everything forever, it gets tiresome. Fans that want to be pissed watching A&M lose its fourth Power 4 game in a row, I get it. Everybody is mad.
 

I get the anger, frustration and disappointment. I am not going to tell anyone that they shouldn't feel that way. The overwhelming majority appreciates our words and the show. I don't care if you don't like it. 8-5 in year one is not bad. Not good, but not bad. Better than a lot of teams historically around this league. People don't want to hear that now, but you know it's true. You were 8-5, but two of the wins were against top-10 teams. "But it was Missouri and LSU." That's not how we do it. 8-5 with four wins over teams with winning records. In the last three years combined, A&M won four games against SEC teams with winning records. This year, A&M beat Missouri, LSU, Florida and Arkansas. This is not a parade thing. The point is that there was an improvement in this program. The problem is the end of the season didn't make it feel like it. The reality is they lost two games basically on a play. They should’ve beat USC. They should have beaten Auburn. You should have won them.
 

A&M is not "a lot more talented" than South Carolina. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Auburn. It's probably even. They are not "a lot more talented" than Florida. Florida couldn't get it figured out. They are getting pillaged in the portal. You look at A&M and see the defensive line talent then you look around and go, "Where are the NFL Draft picks?" They will be young guys. Guys like Chase Bisontis and Le'Veon Moss, but where were they outside of the defensive line and say, "That's a lay-down NFL guy”?
 

You should have beat Auburn and USC. That's why you are frustrated. You know they should have been able to get a yard in three tries against Texas. You know that game should have been 17-14 with six or so minutes left. Then you put real pressure on that offense and Quinn Ewers. You get the 100,000 people that came to your stadium to root you on and be a real factor. You know those those things should have happened. That's why you are discouraged.
 

It doesn't mean throwing the whole thing in the dumpster. It doesn't mean no one can have any optimism moving forward. Any player can go into the portal and make more money than they make on their current team. There will come a point where Texas, in the playoff run, will have conversations about whether they should keep a player because he is asking for "this." If the answer is "no," if they leave, they will probably get paid more than they would've gotten to stay at Texas.
 

These guys that are staying, it’s not because of money. They could get paid anywhere. They are staying because they have optimism about where it’s heading. The recruits and portal commits have optimism. It's not a guarantee that this passing game will explode. Marcel Reed has to continue to develop, which, by the way, I thought he played a lot better. He has a ways to go. He was a freshman.
 

These receivers have a lot of confidence in this passing game and quarterback moving forward.
 

It's not unacceptable to talk about the future. You can do both and say, that sucked. But you can say the year was not a disaster, and it was a solid first season. Year two, to me, is the hardest one because the expectation is to make a jump. This team needs to figure out a way to win nine games. Go win a bowl game and be 10-3 next year. You look at the schedule, and it will be hard to do. NIL, you are up there. The expectation is to make a significant jump in year two with what I think is a harder schedule and three defensive linemen that went to the NFL

I’m convinced he takes a Xanax before he goes on air. The calmness, the weird ramblings, paranoid thoughts, irrational comparisons.

This is why he never melts down on air, it’s always on Twitter or in aTexAgs thread. 

How Nuno introduces Looch is bizarre. He’s either running late and they interview him in the car, take a commercial break, and he staggers into the studio OR he’s just late as shit and staggers into the studio during hour 3. And again, his co-hosts never interrupt him. They just let him go for 45 minutes to an hour of him taking to himself. 
 

He always been obsessed with the males interns. Just weird fucking questions about their personal lives. 
 

Lately, he’s been obsessed with buying a baseball glove from Academy. I shit you not. He’s spent hours in consecutive weeks talking about how he should go buy a mitt and play catch with Brauny. 

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26 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I’m convinced he takes a Xanax before he goes on air. The calmness, the weird ramblings, paranoid thoughts, irrational comparisons.

This is why he never melts down on air, it’s always on Twitter or in aTexAgs thread. 

How Nuno introduces Looch is bizarre. He’s either running late and they interview him in the car, take a commercial break, and he staggers into the studio OR he’s just late as shit and staggers into the studio during hour 3. And again, his co-hosts never interrupt him. They just let him go for 45 minutes to an hour of him taking to himself. 

The gloryholes don’t man themselves. 

Looch often looks dour on the show. The way he was described above is very accurate, and makes me feel a little bad for him. He has a love/hate relationship with aggy fans, he’s ridiculed by the rest of the world, and it appears the only close relationship he has is with his mother.

5 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


That's a lot of words to say "We suck. We have always sucked. We always will suck. It's tradition."

Billy knows about sucking.

 

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3 hours ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

I guess the couple of Georgia transfers they picked up are not optimistic about Georgia’s future?

Here's hoping they go back to 1980....40 years before we won! /aggy

What injuries has he had?

6 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

2022 class? Aggies have no class (left). 

Biggest recruiting class bust of all time. At least aggy can claim a championship in something now.

On 12/29/2024 at 8:06 AM, Longhornfrenzy said:

Liucci

12/29/24

What are your general thoughts and feelings right now both short and long term?

Long term I believe the guy coaching at Texas A&M is going to figure it out. ... But he has to get there, and doing so requires winning in the short-term. The Ags ... fell hard in November. 

I even think last night was a chance to score tangible momentum entering the off-season and the Ags didn't do that (in pretty embarrassing and discouraging fashion, no less).

... the head coach and DC clearly have a lot to figure out when you look at how the Ags played on that side of the ball (defense) for halves and/or full games all too often this season. ... the head-scratcher for me is the fact that Elko openly stated this off-season on more than one occasion how excited he was about this year's defense even compared to past A&M units he's coached. Definitely something the head man has to be very disappointed in ...

Outlook for next season?

There really should be a noticeable year one to year two jump for a program under a new regime and also for a ton of individuals ...

...help also needs to arrive and if I'm Elko right now, I'm taking a hard look at every position.

... you also had guys you're planning to depend on next year on both sides playing who struggled mightily to make winning plays.

... the book was out on the Ags by the time November rolled around. Make Reed and the A&M passing game beat you down the field, sit on early-down runs and run right at the Aggie defense. South Carolina, Auburn and Texas did so with alarming degrees of success. 

Look, I'm as disappointed as all of you are about the way things went after the LSU win but let's be productive with the conversations and stop acting like kids or like this is social media. I don't have the time or patience for it today ... 

the reality is A&M was a completely unnecessary INT and a short FG miss from putting up 41 points. 

After the last 4 meaningful games, do you really see much of a culture change? Still had same sloppy penalties/missed tackles/drops etc and seemed to regress as the season went, especially on defense. I did see penalties and missed tackles as ongoing issues but that's more playing clean football than it is culture ... but I think this group and program have a lot further to go in the learning to win department than culture.

Any chance Elko spends some time with Dan Campbell this offseason? His first season in Detroit was obviously much rougher but did have a few similarities as far as not being able to get over the hump…

I think you're probably referencing Dan's second year in Detroit. Interestingly enough, I've floated the idea to both coaches and would love to facilitate the two sitting down during the off-season.

Rough ending and some real questions that need to be answered after the way the team finished but that was a solid first season and not only that folks should walk away feeling hopeless after watching.

... the Ags were so bad when it mattered most with some important 2025 pieces and several starters out there letting it happen. Somehow, someway, the players needed to step up and ... the coaches ... figure out how to make that happen.

So much to unpack here. 

Things have to be better next year, they just have to ... but he (Elk)has to get there, and doing so requires winning.

They have a lot to figure out on defense, help needs to arrive ... take a hard look at every position, several starters out here letting it happen Somehow, someway, the players needed to step up and ... the coaches ... figure out how to make that happen.

stop acting like kids or like this is social media... 

a completely unnecessary INT

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 ... folks should walk away feeling hopeless after watching

... the Ags were so bad when it mattered most

On 12/29/2024 at 9:04 AM, WBT said:

Looch to facilitate an aggy meeting of the minds!

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Simply taking a look at Dan Campbell and then the Elk tells you everything you need to know.

Campbell had the escape velocity (and body shape) to get away from aggieland,

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