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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins

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#20803
12 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Based on what empirical evidence? Because Quinn sucks? All the people in here that think Arch is a better option right now are fucking morons. There is zero evidence but tons of emotion. Some are the worst fucking fans, they should go hide because they should be embarrassed. 

LOL Arch was a 1.000 recruit!

Wait . . .

#20805
1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I feel like you were a drama major. 

People who prefer “feel” over “think” are by definition drama majors.   Or something, I don’t know.

#20806

Any time when I am feeling haughty and superior, I just read this thread for the instant kick-in-the-nuts feeling it gives me.  Well done, my brothers and sisters.

#20808
2 hours ago, Ricky Butler said:

I feel like you were a drama major. 

Hits close to home. Miz Long followed up her Drama Majority with Law School. Well, and then back to Drama School with leading performer Gerry Spence.

#20809
1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

Based on what empirical evidence? Because Quinn sucks? All the people in here that think Arch is a better option right now are fucking morons. There is zero evidence but tons of emotion. Some are the worst fucking fans, they should go hide because they should be embarrassed. 

Bc he’s responsible for 13 TDS as the backup. Half as many as the starter. His HC thought he had a better chance to beat UGA than Quinn. He unlocks the deep ball in sarks offesne and isn’t just a screen merchant. Got a couple others but I’m good. 
 

The data is not in your favor. Emotion is where you live right now. 12-2 matters. But that’s on the back of an all time Texas defense. Quinn turns it over too much, has shitty footwork mechanics, and has a downfield hit rate that rivals that of a storm trooper with a blaster rifle. 

Edited by Texasborn91

#20810
15 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Hits close to home. Miz Long followed up her Drama Majority with Law School. Well, and then back to Drama School with leading performer Gerry Spence.

Hey, not knocking it. I’m in the storytelling business. 
 

Just poking fun at the heavy handed Quinn analysis. 

#20811
5 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Hey, not knocking it. I’m in the storytelling business. 
 

Just poking fun at the heavy handed Quinn analysis. 

Not taken as a knock. Image of Real Life imo.

#20812
5 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

HC thought he had a better chance to beat UGA than Quinn

That isn't true for obvious reasons. If the coach believed that Arch would have finished out the game and been the starter the rest of the season. So, you think Sark is the holdup now, not Quinn. Interesting.

7 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

He unlocks the deep ball in sarks offesne and isn’t just a screen merchant. Got a couple others but I’m good. 

And has a propensity to throw into double and triple coverage

 

8 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

The data is not in your favor

Show your work, that isn't true at all. There is only speculation that Arch gives Texas a better chance to win any game that Quinn can't.

#20813
2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

That isn't true for obvious reasons. If the coach believed that Arch would have finished out the game and been the starter the rest of the season. So, you think Sark is the holdup now, not Quinn. Interesting.

And has a propensity to throw into double and triple coverage

 

Show your work, that isn't true at all. There is only speculation that Arch gives Texas a better chance to win any game that Quinn can't.

By stating he has half as many TDs as the starter, being more mobile, and having a demonstrably better deep ball proves my point. What game do we drop if arch is the starter the whole season? We overpowered Michigan. Quinn did his best to keep Aggie in the game. He over powered a hobbled Florida secondary. Arkansas was in the 100’s as a pass defense and Quinn did nothing to take advantage of it. In the SEC champ game Quinn should have thrown at least 2 more picks. Goes on and on. 

#20814

He missed his chance to get drafted high. His stock went down, and if he returns (hopefully at another school) it will only drop more.

#20815
1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If he was he'd be drafted in the 1st round like his peers in that category unlike Quinn. 

Way to miss the fucking point for the 1,000th time.  Think harder.

#20816
1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

By stating he has half as many TDs as the starter

Against whom and when has those TDs come against. Facts matter. Get ahold of yourself. Arch has a similar turnover rate to Quinn with a higher interceptable throw percentage.

#20817
26 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

His HC thought he had a better chance to beat UGA than Quinn.

How do you arrive at this conclusion?  A small part of one quarter is not the equivalent of the rest of the game.

#20818
26 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bc he’s responsible for 13 TDS as the backup. Half as many as the starter. His HC thought he had a better chance to beat UGA than Quinn. He unlocks the deep ball in sarks offesne and isn’t just a screen merchant. Got a couple others but I’m good. 
 

The data is not in your favor. Emotion is where you live right now. 12-2 matters. But that’s on the back of an all time Texas defense. Quinn turns it over too much, has shitty footwork mechanics, and has a downfield hit rate that rivals that of a storm trooper with a blaster rifle. 

With this defense constantly giving the ball right back to the offense, and with the best OL in probably 20 years, and the skill talent, in Sark's offense.... the numbers should be video game numbers. They ain't. 

#20819
25 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Against whom and when has those TDs come against. Facts matter. Get ahold of yourself. Arch has a similar turnover rate to Quinn with a higher interceptable throw percentage.

9-2 vs 25-9? Your math doesn’t math right

Edited by Texasborn91

#20820
23 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

He missed his chance to get drafted high. His stock went down, and if he returns (hopefully at another school) it will only drop more.

Disagree.  If he finishes these last three games strong and plays like he did against Michigan for most of them - he's going to get drafted in Round 2-3.    There is a staggering amount of incompetence at evaluating QB's at the GM level in the NFL.

#20821
23 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

How do you arrive at this conclusion?  A small part of one quarter is not the equivalent of the rest of the game.

I’ve already argued this with you. The fact it happened at all is the proof. Why argue anything different 

#20823
7 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

9-2 vs 25-9? Your math doesn’t math right

Two starts against shitty, shitty teams for one. Now go look up and calculate the % of interceptions per attempt. You decide to use TD to INT ratio, where did that come from?

#20824
7 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

The fact it happened at all is the proof.

If it was proof, why did Ewers come out in the second half and throw for 197 yards and not Arch? Are you calling Sark a liar?

#20825
1 hour ago, Texasborn91 said:

His HC thought he had a better chance to beat UGA than Quinn.

A lot of really dumb things have been said by Texas fans in this manufactured saga but this might take the cake.

#20828
2 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

Based on what empirical evidence? Because Quinn sucks? All the people in here that think Arch is a better option right now are fucking morons. There is zero evidence but tons of emotion. Some are the worst fucking fans, they should go hide because they should be embarrassed. 

Holy projection, Batman. 

#20829
2 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

All the people in here that think Arch is a better option right now are fucking morons.

We have been struggling at the QB position off and on for most of the season. Right now, Arch Manning is the betting favorite to win the 2025 Heisman. It is an extremely defensible position to think we'd be better on offense right now with Arch. 

#20831
1 hour ago, Texasborn91 said:

I’ve already argued this with you. The fact it happened at all is the proof. Why argue anything different 

I'm sorry, I don't remember discussing anything with you.  If Sark's benching of Quinn for less than half a quarter is evidence that he thought Quinn couldn't win the game, what does the fact that he benched Arch say about his thoughts on Arch?

I mean, this is really simple stuff you are failing to grasp.

#20832
30 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Right now, Arch Manning is the betting favorite to win the 2025 Heisman. It is an extremely defensible position to think we'd be better on offense right now with Arch. 

So Arch is Quinn 2024?

Great.  Now you tell us.

#20833
33 minutes ago, Red Five said:

We have been struggling at the QB position off and on for most of the season. Right now, Arch Manning is the betting favorite to win the 2025 Heisman. It is an extremely defensible position to think we'd be better on offense right now with Arch. 

How many first time starting QBs have won that award? The Manning name carries a lot of weight. What other evidence do they have to support that, none other than degenerate gamblers doing what they do, betting on shit. Doesn't mean he won't, doesn't mean he won't be a good QB next year. Where is the evidence Sark has played players that he thought didn't give us the best chance to win. Let me guess, the only evidence is Quinn playing with a sprained ankle with the game firmly in control. 

#20834
18 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

How many first time starting QBs have won that award? The Manning name carries a lot of weight. What other evidence do they have to support that, none other than degenerate gamblers doing what they do, betting on shit. Doesn't mean he won't, doesn't mean he won't be a good QB next year. Where is the evidence Sark has played players that he thought didn't give us the best chance to win. Let me guess, the only evidence is Quinn playing with a sprained ankle with the game firmly in control. 

Cam Newton

johnny manziel

bryce young

Kyler Murray 

 

Edited by BurntOrange&White

#20835
4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Cam Newton

johnny manziel

bryce young

Kyler Murray 

 

Now how many were heisman favorites the season before they were starters? Thanks for helping me prove another one of my points.

#20836
1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Now how many were heisman favorites the season before they were starters? Thanks for helping me prove another one of my points.

That would be hard to find as idk what gambling sites existed back then to find preseason odds. But if manning throws for around 4k yards and 30 touchdowns with some rushing touchdowns to show his last name will carry on the hype machine. But I was just answering the question of first year starters winning Heisman. 

#20837
6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

That would be hard to find as idk what gambling sites existed back then to find preseason odds. But if manning throws for around 4k yards and 30 touchdowns with some rushing touchdowns to show his last name will carry on the hype machine. But I was just answering the question of first year starters winning Heisman. 

That's good, I wasn't being negative, literally thanks for giving that list. My point is out of those names, I'm 99% positive none of them were even pre-season favorites. I can't imagine any were even close. Bryce Young might have been on a short list but no way was he a favorite.

#20838

Point being, it's not like we've got people demanding Cole Lourd get all of Ewers' snaps. Wanting Manning to play more at this stage is entirely defensible, and you probably shouldn't be calling people "fucking morons" for thinking that.

#20839
2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

 and you probably shouldn't be calling people "fucking morons" for thinking that.

To be the starter yes, to play situational, no. If he gives us a better chance to win he would have been the starter a long time ago.

#20840
7 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Wanting Manning to play more at this stage is entirely defensible,

By the way, no need to imply that I said something that I didn't. My comment was as a starter. Pretty sure you knew exactly what I was talking about.

#20841
Just now, Longhornlove said:

By the way, no need to imply that I said something that I didn't. My comment was as a starter. Pretty sure you knew exactly what I was talking about.

Fine. Starter. Whatever, the point is the exact same. 

#20842
39 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Now how many were heisman favorites the season before they were starters? Thanks for helping me prove another one of my points.

Nvm

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#20843
6 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Fine. Starter. Whatever, the point is the exact same. 

Yes, yes, lets bench our 3 year starter for a RS Freshman first game in the first 12 team playoff. Great Idea...........not, it is moronic hence the fucking moron comment.

#20844
3 hours ago, Red Five said:

I thought it was five. 

Batted balls intercepted vs batted balls total. Try to keep up.

#20845
5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

 We've had 5 batted balls this season. 

 

4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

We had 8 batted balls this yr.

Yeah hard to believe I screwed that up. 

#20846
Just now, Red Five said:

 

Yeah hard to believe I screwed that up. 

Geezus Christ. You knew what the fuck I meant. Nobody cares about a batted ball that falls harmlessly to the ground. Most people are talking about the tip ball INTs because those are what is important. What difference does that make anyway? Regardless, we had a lot more this year than last year total batted balls or not. I bet you can't even remember a single batted ball from last season. You guys like to derail a point when it doesn't fit your narrative. The point was last year when Jones was in we didn't see batted balls from his side with any frequency. He kept Campbell straight in pass pro. This was admitted to by the linemen themselves. He didn't lead the country in penalties. And he didn't bust protection like Williams does. The assertion that the line is better this year based on experience is laughable. Every stat that linemen are graded on when it comes to team success will be worse this year. Rushing yards per attempt. Sacks given up. Batted balls. That's the signs that a line is better not PFF grades. PFF grades don't show line cohesion and teamwork. Results do.

#20848

Arguing opinion against another opinion with no actual evidence is the surly way. We need to kill this thread cause it keeps killing my buzz about the season. Let’s win this motherfucker with Trey Owens at qb motherfuckers. 

#20849
31 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Geezus Christ. You knew what the fuck I meant. Nobody cares about a batted ball that falls harmlessly to the ground. Most people are talking about the tip ball INTs because those are what is important. What difference does that make anyway? Regardless, we had a lot more this year than last year total batted balls or not. I bet you can't even remember a single batted ball from last season. You guys like to derail a point when it doesn't fit your narrative. The point was last year when Jones was in we didn't see batted balls from his side with any frequency. He kept Campbell straight in pass pro. This was admitted to by the linemen themselves. He didn't lead the country in penalties. And he didn't bust protection like Williams does. The assertion that the line is better this year based on experience is laughable. Every stat that linemen are graded on when it comes to team success will be worse this year. Rushing yards per attempt. Sacks given up. Batted balls. That's the signs that a line is better not PFF grades. PFF grades don't show line cohesion and teamwork. Results do.

Pretending Quinn hasn’t had an issue with batted balls his entire career is hilarious. You can still defend Quinn without just lying.

He had two batted against OU if I remember correctly. One that hit the ground and one that we still caught.

After watching a little highlights he also had at least 2 vs Tech, maybe a 3rd unless he just threw a duck.

Edited by hobbes2702

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