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6 minutes ago, tokamak said:

The DTs currently on Florida's roster aren't stupid, they can read.

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3 minutes ago, tokamak said:

I know this is a website for Texas fans, and specifically we're on a thread dedicated to Texas football recruiting, and we're supposed to be rooting for only what's best for Texas football and yadda, yadda, yadda. But one thing that really fucking pisses me off is that it seems like everyone, from the ADs, to the conferences, to the NCAA, to apparently even the federal government is absolutely bound and determined to prevent college football players from receiving what the free market determines that they're worth.

So the problem here isn't the players etc. 

Its that none of the people paying money actually give a shit about the players NIL, they are doing it because they like the team, not because the skill or market demands it. 

These kids are making more than Tom Brady for some things. Than Patrick Mahomes for state farm. Stop acting like this is some fair market value discussion and pull your head out of your ass. 

Theres a reason corporate NIL, you know the real stuff with an ROI happens at places and with players that it happens with. Those deals continue post college and are often long term partnerships with brands. 

7 minutes ago, immamac said:

So the problem here isn't the players etc. 

Its that none of the people paying money actually give a shit about the players NIL, they are doing it because they like the team, not because the skill or market demands it. 

These kids are making more than Tom Brady for some things. Than Patrick Mahomes for state farm. Stop acting like this is some fair market value discussion and pull your head out of your ass. 

Theres a reason corporate NIL, you know the real stuff with an ROI happens at places and with players that it happens with. Those deals continue post college and are often long term partnerships with brands. 

The reason why there is a huge market for “fake NIL” is because the schools have artificially limited the amount the players are able to be paid to the House settlement amount. It’s certainly not their corporate NIL value, but it is their market value in college football. Schools/collectives are trying to find ways to pay the players their market value in other ways, because the rules prevent them from doing it directly. 

1 minute ago, Texas Wahoo said:

The reason why there is a huge market for “fake NIL” is because the schools have artificially limited the amount the players are able to be paid to the House settlement amount. It’s certainly not their corporate NIL value, but it is their market value in college football. Schools/collectives are trying to find ways to pay the players their market value in other ways, because the rules prevent them from doing it directly. 

God damnit. Stop conflating NIL with pay for play, everyone. Stop it. 

They get paid to do commercials, tweet stuff, bring people to events and do meet and greets etc. They do not get paid to play football. 

There is absolutely a well established market for fucking celebrities and influencers who charge money to do those things. 

Could you pay anyone to come do a meet and greet 750,000? Sure you could, you would also charge probably 30k a chair for that dinner. 

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

God damnit. Stop conflating NIL with pay for play, everyone. Stop it. 

They get paid to do commercials, tweet stuff, bring people to events and do meet and greets etc. They do not get paid to play football. 

There is absolutely a well established market for fucking celebrities and influencers who charge money to do those things. 

Could you pay anyone to come do a meet and greet 750,000? Sure you could, you would also charge probably 30k a chair for that dinner. 

There is a market for fucking celebrities? How is the first that I'm hearing of it? What are going rates? I assume someone like Melissa McCarthy is probably pretty inexpensive, but your basic Sabrina Carpenter is a bit pricey. Is there an arbitrage opportunity related to maybe age (like, say, Jane Seymour or Halle Berry) or psychosis (Britney Spears)?

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

There is a market for fucking celebrities? How is the first that I'm hearing of it? What are going rates? I assume someone like Melissa McCarthy is probably pretty inexpensive, but your basic Sabrina Carpenter is a bit pricey. Is there an arbitrage opportunity related to maybe age (like, say, Jane Seymour or Halle Berry) or psychosis (Britney Spears)?

Its a lot cheaper than you think. 

1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

That will become very obvious very quickly. I just don't see how Texas allows that as a long term situation.

You must have missed roughly 2007-2022.  It sucked.

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

There is a market for fucking celebrities? How is the first that I'm hearing of it? What are going rates? I assume someone like Melissa McCarthy is probably pretty inexpensive, but your basic Sabrina Carpenter is a bit pricey. Is there an arbitrage opportunity related to maybe age (like, say, Jane Seymour or Halle Berry) or psychosis (Britney Spears)?

Didn’t this get covered in LA Confidential?

There is definitely a market for fucking porn actresses, I imagine there’s a group of former celebrities that offer it for a price. 

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Didn’t this get covered in LA Confidential?

To be fair, there's been some inflation since the 1940's for whatever you desire.

Just now, closetojumping said:

To be fair, there's been some inflation since the 1940's for whatever you desire.

The existence of the marketplace though. 

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

But in candid conversations, coaches and recruiting staffers have serious doubts that athletes will declare those deals, or do so accurately. Some have suggested that players are being encouraged not to declare deals at all, but to simply take the money and keep quiet rather than risk the clearinghouse flagging it. And if that’s the case, where do we suspect that money might be coming from? “I guess it would just be the same as the way things used to work,” lamented the athletic director, frustrated by those already angling to undermine the settlement. “We’d be right back where we started.”

This can't come as a surprise to anyone.  Why do you think Nick Saban and the poverty cheating culture schools were leading the "somebody has to do something" movement?

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Is this one expected to grow into an edge?  That’s pretty heavy for someone with a year of high school remaining, to be projected as off the ball LB. 

Wow. Mayde Creek is my alma mater. I’m not sure they have ever had a Texas commit before.   Rashad Bobino helping us out. 
 

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7 hours ago, campcrunk said:

Anyway, since we're already bitching about thread derailments in early July of the recruiting season when very, very little permanently impactful things are happening (at least if we're to believe, as I do, that the program is going to turn up the heat in a big way in a couple of months and leaving some bitch ass, crooked af programs wondering "WTF just happened?"), let me say only this: poor Keith deserved better

David really didn't deserve him. 

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

Bobby said this morning on Coffee and Football that Guervil went to Florida for seven figures.

lol, fuck that. That's insane. Glad we didn't match, that would be ridiculous. 

38 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

There is a market for fucking celebrities? How is the first that I'm hearing of it? What are going rates? I assume someone like Melissa McCarthy is probably pretty inexpensive, but your basic Sabrina Carpenter is a bit pricey. Is there an arbitrage opportunity related to maybe age (like, say, Jane Seymour or Halle Berry) or psychosis (Britney Spears)?

You actually pay by the pound, so you've got this backwards. 

9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Is this one expected to grow into an edge?  That’s pretty heavy for someone with a year of high school remaining, to be projected as off the ball LB. 

Bobby and Gerry have said that he is being recruited as a linebacker and expressly not being recruited as an edge. I think the plan is for him to play OLB who can come in on pass rush packages, similar to the role currently played by Moore. Although the term "edge" has become extremely confusing to me, so it's hard to know exactly what Bobby and Gerry meant. But Bobby said he is not being recruited as an edge.

 

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Bobby and Gerry have said that he is being recruited as a linebacker and expressly not being recruited as an edge. I think the plan is for him to play OLB who can come in on pass rush packages, similar to the role currently played by Moore. Although the term "edge" has become extremely confusing to me, so it's hard to know exactly what Bobby and Gerry meant. But Bobby said he is not being recruited as an edge.
 

Gerry compared him to Brad Spence.
12 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

David really didn't deserve him. 

lol, fuck that. That's insane. Glad we didn't match, that would be ridiculous. 

You actually pay by the pound, so you've got this backwards. 

Bobby and Gerry have said that he is being recruited as a linebacker and expressly not being recruited as an edge. I think the plan is for him to play OLB who can come in on pass rush packages, similar to the role currently played by Moore. Although the term "edge" has become extremely confusing to me, so it's hard to know exactly what Bobby and Gerry meant. But Bobby said he is not being recruited as an edge.

 

I take that as basically Ant Hill. Ant is an ILB with excellent pass rushing skills (think he led Texas in pressures per rush last year). He lines up at ILB 90% of the time but will bump out to the edge in some pass rushing packages/play calls. I am assuming this is going to be the general LB pitch the next few years. "We love you as an ILB, but we also see pass rushing potential. We envision using you like Ant Hill, who we think will be an early round draft pick and All American". Kind of like how every Nickel recruit will be pitched on the Jahdae Barron plan the next few years. 

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22 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

The first rule in cheating, is to talk about how you’re not cheating 

 

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Recruiting 2026: I said hey what’s going on

There is an old school poster around here...like maybe @HenryJames I can't recall for sure....who gets violently triggered by the mere mention of that song....beware.

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1 minute ago, satyanash said:

 

Sure Jan GIF
 

Like anyone believes Hugh Freeze, and especially the institution of Auburn, is playing by the rules 

Just now, MirrOlure said:

There is an old school poster around here...like maybe @HenryJames I can't recall for sure....who gets violently triggered by the mere mention of that song....beware.

Well that guy is a wanker so who cares. I don’t care for the song either. Who does?

3 minutes ago, satyanash said:

 

Ah Hugh Freeze,  the paragon of virtue 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, satyanash said:

 

Yes, statements by Hugh Freeze about playing by the rules, esp. in recruiting, can be given 100% credit.  

31 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well that guy is a wanker so who cares. I don’t care for the song either. Who does?

Basically all Gen X females.

1 hour ago, Texas Wahoo said:

Wow. Mayde Creek is my alma mater. I’m not sure they have ever had a Texas commit before.   Rashad Bobino helping us out. 
 

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Juan Kemp didnt start his journey at Texas after Mayde Creek but he finished his career in Austin.

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3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

so that’s the excuse we’re going to run with?

Excuse, do you know what Simmons commands in NIL?  Lance Jackson?  Justus Terry?  Those are just the 5 stars we have that are future NFL players and likely 1st round player at that.  That doesn't even include guys like Vasek and Zina that would very likely both start at LSU this year.  So yeah, LSU doesn't have elite edge guys like us to pay so they can blow a stupid amount on Henderson just so they can have one elite edge player when Texas has at least 3 on campus that they will need to re-up at the end of this season.

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1 hour ago, Fondren & Main said:

Cross post.  Kosi is related to Orakpo.  Let's hope his career ends up similar!

As a cupcake baker?

2 hours ago, immamac said:

How many NIL deals have you done or been a part of or read or seen anything about other than the news? 

Compliance has always existed, just because it's delloite who can torpedo the deal doesn't mean there hasn't always been someone who could torpedo the deal. 

What you are seeing now is SCHOOLS being able to offer money in addition to the collectives that were already going, and in many cases in lieu of the collective (many have been shuttered or combined with the internal AD) the reason a lot of the parity is happening now is because schools that didn't have their NIL shit together all of the sudden have millions to throw around. Its going to be terrible for them, they are going to mismanage rosters, overpay for players that aren't high enough impact, do really stupid shit to be part of the Joneses etc. 

Texas already has a machine, it has discipline, it has a roster retention plan, it has depth, and it has the resume for a program developing players into NFL players. 

Where are these schools getting the money to pay players because according the USA Today revenue only something like 30 schools made money and that was not anywhere near an extra 20.5 million. 

5 minutes ago, General Specific said:


Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Our House, in the Middle of the Street

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1 hour ago, MirrOlure said:

There is an old school poster around here...like maybe @HenryJames I can't recall for sure....who gets violently triggered by the mere mention of that song....beware.

Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Closer I am to Fine

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1 hour ago, MirrOlure said:

There is an old school poster around here...like maybe @HenryJames I can't recall for sure....who gets violently triggered by the mere mention of that song....beware.

 

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well that guy is a wanker so who cares. I don’t care for the song either. Who does?

 

49 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Basically all Gen X females.

Clearly you assholes aren’t sufficiently woke because that song is like the lesbian National anthem.  

1 minute ago, Park Gothic said:

Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Closer I am to Fine

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That’s the national anthem for boomer lesbians who listen exclusively to NPR and are really into canning vegetables.  

20 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

Where are these schools getting the money to pay players because according the USA Today revenue only something like 30 schools made money and that was not anywhere near an extra 20.5 million. 

How did the other 95 schools field football teams posting losses? Where did the losses get made up from?

Revenue sharing != Profit Sharing. 

Revenue is money in through the AD. Not money through and paid for everything then what's left. 

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That’s the national anthem for boomer lesbians who listen exclusively to NPR and are really into canning vegetables.  

By this definition, boomer lesbians sound awesome save for their taste in anthems

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I really like Okpala's tape. Sorry for going off topic.

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Mayde Creek has him on the edge mostly but he looks athletic enough to move side-to-side. If he can learn the position, he's going to be a real menace playing MLB at about 6'2", 230.

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20 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Closer I am to Fine

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These aren't the droids lesbians we're looking for.

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well that guy is a wanker so who cares. I don’t care for the song either. Who does?

What I like best about that song is how it triggers so many others. 

I was wondering why in the world would Henry James get triggered by a Marvin Gaye classic, then I realized you’re talking about “What’s Up?” which triggers me for its stupid title that never appears in the song.

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