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10 hours ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


"I heard Julian Sayin would have committed to Texas were it not for Arch.  He wanted to come here so bad.

Finley's recruitment is not over. It is expected that the siren song to Austin and Texas' final offer will be enough to tip the scales in Texas' favor.

Kruel will be a Longhorn but will be made to understand that he's going to have to develop for a year or two but that Texas will pay him more for doing so for developing. Texas wants this just to spike the football in Oklahoma's face.

There is one currently committed Longhorn who is shaky not because he doesn't love Sark and wants to come here but is beginning to realize how big of a logjam Texas has at his position." 



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3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Interesting side note. Extensive research on men’s lives have shown that the 40’s is the second cockiest decade in a typical man’s life, behind the teens. It results from a high level of confidence built from success in relationships and career during their 20’s and 30’s. 

The decade of the 50’s is when most men became more aware and philosophical about their life and the world around them. However, some men get stuck and fly through their 50’s not progressing, leading to higher levels of frustration, unhappiness, closed thinking,  and conflict in relationships. 

We’ve got all types on Surly, I’m sure. 

It's called Vanaprastha in the Vedic tradition, leaving behind the constant striving and going "into the woods" to get deeper.

There too you will find cheese and kolaches.

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Ha. I don’t feel all that cocky. Life is just  a ceaseless string of waking up and trying not to fuck up, hopefully until I can get to retirement. Life is perpetually humbling. 

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3 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

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What he lacks in self confidence he makes up for in self awareness. 

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I feel like misanthropy can be misinterpreted as cockiness. But just because a guy hates everyone doesn't mean he doesn't hate himself too. 

Maybe every time Sydney lashes out, its a cry for help. 

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23 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I feel like misanthropy can be misinterpreted as cockiness. But just because a guy hates everyone doesn't mean he doesn't hate himself too. 

Maybe every time Sydney lashes out, its a cry for help. 

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

Don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendously stupid idiot.

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

Another cry for help. We're here for you buddy. 

Another cry for help. We're here for you buddy. 

I’m not. I mean, I’m here, just not for him. I am here in hopes of watching him spiral further when it’s finally outed that he is the secret bastard love child of Ketch and Plonsky. So, maybe I am here for him?
41 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

But just because a guy hates everyone doesn't mean he doesn't hate himself too. 

I can confirm…

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50 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

I think more or less, you hit the nail on the head.

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

Turrible band name, but extremely accurate for a Surly Motto...

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

(Looks at own username)

 

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

No, it's usually a sign of disgust. 

Just because most of you guys are raging fucking idiots doesn't mean I can't also be a slightly less stupid idiot. 

Raging? No I’m not raging. 

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Right now on this board, one of us reading and posting on here is the dumbest of all of us. Half of us are dumber than the rest of us. I feel pretty confident that I am not the dumbest. I feel pretty good about being above what we've all come to call the "BurntOrange&White Line" in which I'm above the 50% cutoff. The seas really get rockier from there. Some of you have truly dizzying intellects. 

17 hours ago, campcrunk said:

To kind of tie this to the music theme, Mrs. Robinson is just a fantastic song. And I'm not usually a fan of a ton covers, but I thought the Lemonheads did it justice

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Gerry reviewing the 2022 class spoilered below. For those that get upset about the thread meandering, note that this is a guy who lives and breathes recruiting and all he's got to work with right now are class reviews. It's just dead.

Highlights:

-There are numerous guys who left that are now starting or fighting to start at other P4 programs. Bledsoe at MSU, Bryant at Vanderbilt, Finkley at KU (I think), Brenen Thompson at MSU, Murphy at Oregon State, Austin Jordan at TCU, Agbo at WVU and Swanson at ASU. 

-Multiple other guys are at G5 and starting.

-Bottom line is that a lot of this class was recruited over, so the guys had to leave to get more snaps elsewhere. Excluding the OL, of course, which is the saving grace of this class. 

Spoiler

2022 Top 5 Class: Up to eight NFL draft picks

Steve Sarkisian's first top 5 recruiting class at Texas is entering the fourth quarter of their time on the 40 acres, and the returns have been very positive. 

The class already has three NFL draft picks with up to five more possibilities. And the class will end up with ten multi-year starters or high-snap players for the Longhorns on multiple college football playoff teams. 

OnTexasFootball takes a look at the 2022 class with many entering their final season on the Forty Acres.

Three in the NFL already ...
Kelvin Banks
, LT, Humble (Texas) Summer Creek
Industry ranking: 5-star
NFL: 9th overall in 2025 NFL Draft

Jaydon Blue, RB, Houston (Texas) Klein Cain
Industry ranking: 5-star
NFL: 5th round in 2025 NFL Draft

Cameron Williams, RT, Duncanville (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star
NFL: 6th round selection in 2025 NFL Draft

Multi-year starters or starter level ...
DJ Campbell
, RG, Arlington (Texas) Bowie
Industry ranking: 5-star
NFL prediction: Mid-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Jaylon Guilbeau, CB/DB, Port Arthur (Texas) Memorial
Industry ranking: 4-star
NFL prediction: Mid-round to late-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Cole Hutson, C/RG, Frisco (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star
NFL prediction: Possible late-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Ethan Burke, EDGE, Austin (Texas) Westlake
Industry ranking: 3-star
NFL prediction: Likely mid-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Will Stone, K - kickoff, Austin (Texas) Regents
Industry ranking: 3-star

Lance St. Louis, snapper, Gilbert (Az.) Williams Field
Industry ranking: 3-star

First year starter ... 
Neto Umeozulu
, LG, Allen (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star
NFL prediction: Possible selection in 2027 NFL Draft

Quality depth ...
Connor Robertson
, C, Austin (Texas) Westlake
Industry ranking: 3-star

Transferred out (17) ...
Terrance Brooks
, CB, Little Elm (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Justice Finkley, EDGE, Trussville (Ala.) Hewitt-Trussville
Industry ranking: 4-star

BJ Allen, S, Aledo (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

J'Mond Tapp, EDGE, Donaldsonville (La.) Ascension Catholic
Industry ranking: 4-star

Brenen Thompson, WR, Spearman (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Maalik Murphy, QB, Gardena (Calif.) Junipero Serra
Industry ranking: 4-star

Kris Ross, DL, Houston (Texas) North Shore
Industry ranking: 4-star

Larry Turner-Gooden, S, Mission Hills (Calif.) Bishop Alemany
Industry ranking: 4-star

Jaray Bledsoe, DL, Marlin (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Austin Jordan, S, Denton (Texas) Ryan
Industry ranking: 4-star

Malik Agbo, OT, Federal Way (Wa.) Todd Beamer
Industry ranking: 4-star

Aaron Bryant, DL, Southaven (Miss.) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Zac Swanson, DL, Phoenix (Az.) Brophy Prep
Industry ranking: 3-star

Derrick Brown, LB, Texarkana (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star

Xavion Brice, DB, Arlington (Texas) Seguin
Industry ranking: 3-star

Savion Red, RB/WR, Grand Prairie (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star

Travell Johnson, LB, Arlington (Texas) Martin
Industry ranking: 3-star

 

24 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Right now on this board, one of us reading and posting on here is the dumbest of all of us. Half of us are dumber than the rest of us. I feel pretty confident that I am not the dumbest. I feel pretty good about being above what we've all come to call the "BurntOrange&White Line" in which I'm above the 50% cutoff. The seas really get rockier from there. Some of you have truly dizzying intellects. 
 

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14 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

You could have stayed the fuck out of Texas. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Gerry reviewing the 2022 class spoilered below. For those that get upset about the thread meandering, note that this is a guy who lives and breathes recruiting and all he's got to work with right now are class reviews. It's just dead.

Highlights:

-There are numerous guys who left that are now starting or fighting to start at other P4 programs. Bledsoe at MSU, Bryant at Vanderbilt, Finkley at KU (I think), Brenen Thompson at MSU, Murphy at Oregon State, Austin Jordan at TCU, Agbo at WVU and Swanson at ASU. 

-Multiple other guys are at G5 and starting.

-Bottom line is that a lot of this class was recruited over, so the guys had to leave to get more snaps elsewhere. Excluding the OL, of course, which is the saving grace of this class. 

  Hide contents

2022 Top 5 Class: Up to eight NFL draft picks

Steve Sarkisian's first top 5 recruiting class at Texas is entering the fourth quarter of their time on the 40 acres, and the returns have been very positive. 

The class already has three NFL draft picks with up to five more possibilities. And the class will end up with ten multi-year starters or high-snap players for the Longhorns on multiple college football playoff teams. 

OnTexasFootball takes a look at the 2022 class with many entering their final season on the Forty Acres.

Three in the NFL already ...
Kelvin Banks
, LT, Humble (Texas) Summer Creek
Industry ranking: 5-star
NFL: 9th overall in 2025 NFL Draft

Jaydon Blue, RB, Houston (Texas) Klein Cain
Industry ranking: 5-star
NFL: 5th round in 2025 NFL Draft

Cameron Williams, RT, Duncanville (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star
NFL: 6th round selection in 2025 NFL Draft

Multi-year starters or starter level ...
DJ Campbell
, RG, Arlington (Texas) Bowie
Industry ranking: 5-star
NFL prediction: Mid-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Jaylon Guilbeau, CB/DB, Port Arthur (Texas) Memorial
Industry ranking: 4-star
NFL prediction: Mid-round to late-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Cole Hutson, C/RG, Frisco (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star
NFL prediction: Possible late-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Ethan Burke, EDGE, Austin (Texas) Westlake
Industry ranking: 3-star
NFL prediction: Likely mid-round selection in 2026 NFL Draft

Will Stone, K - kickoff, Austin (Texas) Regents
Industry ranking: 3-star

Lance St. Louis, snapper, Gilbert (Az.) Williams Field
Industry ranking: 3-star

First year starter ... 
Neto Umeozulu
, LG, Allen (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star
NFL prediction: Possible selection in 2027 NFL Draft

Quality depth ...
Connor Robertson
, C, Austin (Texas) Westlake
Industry ranking: 3-star

Transferred out (17) ...
Terrance Brooks
, CB, Little Elm (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Justice Finkley, EDGE, Trussville (Ala.) Hewitt-Trussville
Industry ranking: 4-star

BJ Allen, S, Aledo (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

J'Mond Tapp, EDGE, Donaldsonville (La.) Ascension Catholic
Industry ranking: 4-star

Brenen Thompson, WR, Spearman (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Maalik Murphy, QB, Gardena (Calif.) Junipero Serra
Industry ranking: 4-star

Kris Ross, DL, Houston (Texas) North Shore
Industry ranking: 4-star

Larry Turner-Gooden, S, Mission Hills (Calif.) Bishop Alemany
Industry ranking: 4-star

Jaray Bledsoe, DL, Marlin (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Austin Jordan, S, Denton (Texas) Ryan
Industry ranking: 4-star

Malik Agbo, OT, Federal Way (Wa.) Todd Beamer
Industry ranking: 4-star

Aaron Bryant, DL, Southaven (Miss.) High
Industry ranking: 4-star

Zac Swanson, DL, Phoenix (Az.) Brophy Prep
Industry ranking: 3-star

Derrick Brown, LB, Texarkana (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star

Xavion Brice, DB, Arlington (Texas) Seguin
Industry ranking: 3-star

Savion Red, RB/WR, Grand Prairie (Texas) High
Industry ranking: 3-star

Travell Johnson, LB, Arlington (Texas) Martin
Industry ranking: 3-star

 

Honestly a little rougher than I would've thought. There might only end up being 1 guy that's more than just a mid- or late-round dart throw for the NFL. Probably the last good chances are for Guilbeau to blow up this year, or Neto to have a very good next two years. I assume that Campbell is what he is at this point.

2 hours ago, Herbie Hancock said:

he is the secret bastard love child of Ketch and Plonsky.

Which one gave birth?

10 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Honestly a little rougher than I would've thought. There might only end up being 1 guy that's more than just a mid- or late-round dart throw for the NFL. Probably the last good chances are for Guilbeau to blow up this year, or Neto to have a very good next two years. I assume that Campbell is what he is at this point.

11 stayed / currently are at Texas. 17 transfers out. 

I like everyone we kept. I even like some of the guys who left (Agbo, Finkley, Maalik), but I understand why they're not here anymore. But 17 still feels like a lot. 

"What could we have done better" .... Texas.. Nothing.. We prefer to go in dry

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43 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

11 stayed / currently are at Texas. 17 transfers out. 

I like everyone we kept. I even like some of the guys who left (Agbo, Finkley, Maalik), but I understand why they're not here anymore. But 17 still feels like a lot. 

17 is a lot, that cannot be disputed. It's an interesting look into what roster building looks like these days when done properly. It's one part of the greater tapestry being woven, but it's informative nonetheless. 

2021 - Sarkisian and company arrive and immediately assess their roster as fundamentally deficient. Options include forced attrition immediately or working to keep key talent happy by not burning the roster to the ground. Assessing the class of 2021, they mostly let the committed guys sign, feeling like some key elements were there. 

2022 - Sign the most talented guys the program can, but also take some culture guys who can play if you squint hard enough. Got to get bigger on the OL. Push dead roster weight out. Get portal help ASAP.

2023-forward - Don't sign anyone who a coach can't stand up and swear to as a potential SEC starter. Don't load up on portal guys, difference makers only. No reason to really push guys out to clear roster space. Players will leave on their own via the portal for more PT. 

I view that class as a bit of an anomaly. Looking back, it was a bridge class. We didn't see it that way at the time. Interestingly, Bo Davis did. He told a buddy "hey, when we got to Tuscaloosa, we had to sign the John Square types then too. Gotta start somewhere." His takes from that cycle largely sucked, but Texas couldn't get in on the big time DLs yet. 

Sark and the staff were comparatively behind other programs in recruiting/evaluating the 2022 class even though it was their first full class. Other programs had been on these players for at least a year. Plus, this was the best recruiting class ever at A&M, so the recruiting landscape was in tilt with dollars being thrown around by Jimbo.

1 hour ago, Park Gothic said:

11 stayed / currently are at Texas. 17 transfers out. 

I like everyone we kept. I even like some of the guys who left (Agbo, Finkley, Maalik), but I understand why they're not here anymore. But 17 still feels like a lot. 

Counterpoint: This isn't the old world anymore. 17 seems like a ton in Old Recruiting and would likely kill a coaching regime, but in how the portal has worked the last couple years, it's not quite that bad, imo

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Right now on this board, one of us reading and posting on here is the dumbest of all of us. Half of us are dumber than the rest of us. I feel pretty confident that I am not the dumbest. I feel pretty good about being above what we've all come to call the "BurntOrange&White Line" in which I'm above the 50% cutoff. The seas really get rockier from there. Some of you have truly dizzying intellects. 

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14 minutes ago, Danimal said:

Plus, this was the best recruiting class ever at A&M, so the recruiting landscape was in tilt with dollars being thrown around by Jimbo.

So, this was when Jimbo shot his wad?

2 hours ago, tokamak said:

Honestly a little rougher than I would've thought. There might only end up being 1 guy that's more than just a mid- or late-round dart throw for the NFL. Probably the last good chances are for Guilbeau to blow up this year, or Neto to have a very good next two years. I assume that Campbell is what he is at this point.

He started one year (plus one game) and was injured during testing for the draft.  I wouldn’t be too sure of this assumption.  

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2 hours ago, tokamak said:

Honestly a little rougher than I would've thought. There might only end up being 1 guy that's more than just a mid- or late-round dart throw for the NFL. Probably the last good chances are for Guilbeau to blow up this year, or Neto to have a very good next two years. I assume that Campbell is what he is at this point.

He started one year (plus one game) and was injured during testing for the draft.  I wouldn’t be too sure of this assumption.

Agreed. There are several previous players who didn't really put it all together and fulfill their potential until their final season.

Some examples include Alfred Collins, Vernon Broughton, T'Vondre Sweat on defense. Christian Jones and Denzel Okafor come to mind from the OL as players that were frustrating to watch until their final seasons. Campbell has it to prove though.

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Kreul announcing Aug 12 

 

OTF considers Texas the trending school over OU and Ole Miss - as of today 

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A few years ago I reviewed fifteen years of Texas recruiting classes and the hit rate on them. From what I recall it was much lower than I ever would have thought. It really was shocking. So then I did it for OU. Same result. I concluded recruiting is a crapshoot with a bit of skill and hustle. 

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1 hour ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

So, this was when Jimbo shot his wad?

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

God damn you! lol 

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

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12 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

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22 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

 

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20 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

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38 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

No, this was when someone else shot their wad while Jimbo watched and cheered.

And it snowballed from there. 
 

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