November 12Nov 12 Popular Post 2 hours ago, texifornia said: https://247sports.com/Player/kaden-scherer-46146324/ Just like every other ACC student trying to get into UT.
November 12Nov 12 5 hours ago, Lonestar88 said: If they're willing to take both Lott and Bey, then I have no idea why they waited so late to offer Bey. Ohio State offered him back in January, we offered him 4 days ago. 2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said: I’d rather them spend that NIL on an elite portal receiver. Trying to read tea leaves here, but perhaps this is an indication that there’s some not obvious attrition expected in the WR room.
November 12Nov 12 5 minutes ago, LCHorn said: Trying to read tea leaves here, but perhaps this is an indication that there’s some not obvious attrition expected in the WR room. rumors are the freshmen aren't happy with how they haven't been used
November 12Nov 12 1 hour ago, Hank Scorpio said: Just like every other ACC student trying to get into UT. I don’t even know acc had a football team.
November 12Nov 12 5 hours ago, HtownHorn said: I mean just your average tax evasion scheme. Unless the businesses files the W2, so the NCAA/clearing house would know about it. It would be very easy to make all athletes submit their tax returns. I think what people are finding funny is that it’s being called a “new workaround” when it’s been going on everywhere for decades, including here.
November 12Nov 12 1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said: rumors are the freshmen aren't happy with how they haven't been used I just hope we can retain McCutcheon.
November 12Nov 12 1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said: rumors are the freshmen aren't happy with how they haven't been used Which is pretty funny if you think about it: We didn't spend the crazy amount of money that we did on 5 star wide receiver commits just to have them ride the pine. But, that is what they did.
November 12Nov 12 12 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said: rumors are the freshmen aren't happy with how they haven't been used Probably words to live by for every non-starter freshman at every University in the country. The question is whether you can push they guy who is currently better and getting more snaps than you out of the way? Or are you certain that while you were unable to make yourself happy with your achievements at Texas, can you guarantee a bigger check or playing time starting over. I think soon you we may see some sort of legislation restricting the movement of players. Just to give more than 6 month stability to rosters? I never fault a kid for trying to put themselves in a better situation. But being a starter at Texas, even if you have to sit a year or two, is starting to become a pretty lucrative route beyond the NIL checks. So they unhappy freshmen have to weigh that future potential as well. And if you do not see a route to eventual playing time, I would look around too. But ALL freshmen, not getting a lot of playing time are disappointed, and unhappy. Almost Universally, because they truly believe that if they could just get some more reps, they could prove they deserve more playing time. That has been true since college football was played with leather helmets. Edited November 12Nov 12 by horn4life
November 12Nov 12 Staff should mention Ryan Niblett wanted to transfer last offseason and look at him now. Hanging around can pay off.
November 12Nov 12 12 hours ago, Bevo said: Which is pretty funny if you think about it: We didn't spend the crazy amount of money that we did on 5 star wide receiver commits just to have them ride the pine. But, that is what they did. If we go by Sark's trust tree - - a ride with Ted Bundy is here . . . . . . . . . . - a freshman WR, regardless of ranking playing in their first year is here
November 12Nov 12 31 minutes ago, Scholz said: Staff should mention Ryan Niblett wanted to transfer last offseason and look at him now. Hanging around can pay off. And Niblett is still mostly waiting in line at WR. It's not three years ago, where if you were a talented freshmen you were almost assured of getting a lot of snaps. Depth and competition means more time waiting until you can push that super talented starter out of the way at Texas more and more. And THAT is a very good thing!
November 12Nov 12 17 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said: I’d rather them spend that NIL on an elite portal receiver. I'm with you (I do want to keep our freshman WR's, but with the way Sark has recruited the portal for WR outside of his first season, he's hit on all of them, including Bond when he was healthy). Portal > Lott (no offense to Lott, but he wouldn't see the field for us for at least a year, and that's only if he can he beat (name other WR's who play same position).
November 12Nov 12 1 minute ago, William Bludworth said: If we go by Sark's trust tree - - a ride with Ted Bundy is here . . . . . . . . . . - a freshman WR, regardless of ranking playing in their first year is here This probably sounded better in your head than on the keyboard. Xavier Worthy and Ryan Wingo own 2 of the top 6 seasons in Texas history for receiving yards by a true freshman. We had 3 NFL draft picks in the room in 2023 and still threw Johntay Cook multiple bones. Those who prove they are ready to play have played. I'll buy the argument that it may not have been the best use of funds to pay for 3 expensive freshman receivers (if you include Michael Terry in that group). I won't buy the argument that they should be playing over anyone who is currently seeing the field, including the lowest-ranked guy in the group, McCutcheon, who was playing in the season opener against Ohio State.
November 12Nov 12 I personally don't understand why Sark doesn't play his FR WRs more. It gets them game reps, and practice is zero sum, so it shows you nothing. There are practice studs, and there are game day studs who aren't great at practice. Rotate Wingo/Livingstone and Lockett, with Wingo obviously getting the bulk, but we should see what Lockett can do, too. Rotate Moore with McCutcheon/Ffrench for same reasons stared above Use Swiss army knife Michael Terry III as a WR/H back, RB, wherever he's needed and can help. He's built like DK Metcalf, so I don't think a single tackle is taking him down. TE rotate Washington/Endries with Townsend. He's a force of nature. Obviously he's not going to get the bulk, but give him something. Other programs have no issues playing freshmen Ohio State Bama Auburn USC Georgia Aggy Michigan Penn State Clemson Oregon And so on.... They don't seem to have an issue playing young frosh and them succeeding. I like Moseley, Moore, and Wingo, but younger guys should be getting reps to add an extra layer to the playbook, and Sark has shown he can dumb it down, which he should since this isn't the NFL, this is college. Get your talent out there. Edited November 12Nov 12 by William Bludworth
November 12Nov 12 What is Sark's track record for getting his starting WRs drafted? Seems pretty solid. So maybe the freshmen should focus strictly on the work it takes to become a starter at Texas.
November 12Nov 12 7 minutes ago, William Bludworth said: I personally don't understand why Sark doesn't play his FR WRs more. It gets them game reps, and practice is zero sum, so it shows you nothing. There are practice studs, and there are game day studs who aren't great at practice. Rotate Wingo/Livingstone and Lockett, with Wingo obviously getting the bulk, but we should see what Lockett can do, too. Rortate Moore with McCutcheon/Ffrench for same reasons stared above Use Swiss army knife Michael Terry III as a WR/H back, RB, wherever he's needed and can help. He's built like DL Metcalf, so I don't think a single tackle is taking him down. TE rotate Washington/Endries with Townsend. He's a force of nature. Obviously he's not going to get the bulk, but give him something. Other programs have no issues playing freshmen Ohio State Bama Auburn USC Georgia Aggy Michigan Penn State Clemson Oregon And so on.... They don't seem to have an issue playing young frosh and them succeeding. I like Moseley, Moore, and Wingo, but younger guys should be getting reps to add an extra layer to the playbook, and Sark has shown he can dumb it down, which he should since this isn't the NFL, this is college. Get your talent out there. When you suck against teams you should roll, this is the outcome. I hated it last year and was pissed a Ewers, for not playing better to get Manning some PT, earlier. And on offense, it damn hard to get more folks snaps in a live game when you can only give your regular receivers a couple of snaps before you punt. Maybe we can roll Arkansas and get a lot of PT for the freshmen. But I bet our offensive snap count this year is as low as it has ever been.
November 12Nov 12 2 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said: What is Sark's track record for getting his starting WRs drafted? Seems pretty solid. So maybe the freshmen should focus strictly on the work it takes to become a starter at Texas. Moore, Livingstone, and Wingo (to an extent) all waited their turn and are now starting and having good years. Livingstone redshirted and Moore did not record a single catch his freshman year. Novel concept.
November 12Nov 12 The only reason some of you think the freshman WRS should get more snaps is because they haven’t gotten any. That is literally the only reason. As mentioned above McCutcheon got snaps vs Ohio State and he is also a true freshman. I know a lot of people like to think there is a game day stud just sitting on the bench dwindling his thumbs because the coach doesn’t like the way they practice but that isn’t always the case. I’d also like to mention Butler was also ahead of those guys and he isn’t anyone’s favorite.
November 12Nov 12 15 minutes ago, horn4life said: But I bet our offensive snap count this year is as low as it has ever been. Seconded, I think this is largely where to place the playing time blame.
November 12Nov 12 On 11/11/2025 at 12:02 PM, Bevo14 said: Wait till they start hiding money in McDonald's bags … or maybe …
November 12Nov 12 47 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said: This probably sounded better in your head than on the keyboard. Xavier Worthy and Ryan Wingo own 2 of the top 6 seasons in Texas history for receiving yards by a true freshman. We had 3 NFL draft picks in the room in 2023 and still threw Johntay Cook multiple bones. Those who prove they are ready to play have played. I'll buy the argument that it may not have been the best use of funds to pay for 3 expensive freshman receivers (if you include Michael Terry in that group). I won't buy the argument that they should be playing over anyone who is currently seeing the field, including the lowest-ranked guy in the group, McCutcheon, who was playing in the season opener against Ohio State. OK, so Worthy didn't have a choice because this was our WR room at the time 2022: - Casey Cain - Taeique Milton (transfer) - Agiye Hall - Troy Omeire - Benen Thompson - Jaden Alexis - Isaiah Neyor - injured - Jordan Whittington 2023: - Jordan Whittington - DeAndre Moore FR- 0 stats - Adonai Mitchell - (tramsfer) - Johntay Cook FR- 8/136/0 for entire year (he caught passes against Baylor and Miss St) Casey Cain Isaiah Neyor - injured or a poor sport Ryan Niblett 0 stats Cook 2024: - Matthew Golden (transfer, unknown how well he would breakout after halfway through the season) played X, Y, and Z receiver and only broke out starting after the ou game when Bond went out, so Wingo had to get reps because we had no one else who could play the position. Johntay Cook - Soph 1/187/1 - Isaiah Bond (transfer) started at 'X' and played 'Z' in different formations - Silas Bolden SR (transfer; return man) different position Johntay Cook - Soph - slot DeAndre Moore Jr - Soph - slot Aaron Butler - FR 0 stats - slot Parker Livingstone - FR 0 stats Wingo - only other 'X' WR So we had only one true X' WR (Wingo) on the team on scholarship, so he had to play since Golden took over for Bond (who was the primary 'x') and Wingo was his backup, so his numbers are inflated. 2025: McCutcheon has 6 catches for 70 yards for the season. He got 1 catch for 2 yards against fOSU. Slot WR No one even suggested playing anyone over someone else other than to say get them snaps. Not start. You don't have to do a 50/50 rotation, I was thinking more like 85/15 or 90/10. Obviously the starters should get the majority of the bulk, but it's not like the frosh WR's need to sit the bench and not see playing time AT ALL. What does tar do for their development for the next year? Continuing the cycle of being new and not having game reps to speed up their development next season. They need it for development, unless they're a project like Butler or Livingstone.
November 12Nov 12 33 minutes ago, horn4life said: When you suck against teams you should roll, this is the outcome. I hated it last year and was pissed a Ewers, for not playing better to get Manning some PT, earlier. And on offense, it damn hard to get more folks snaps in a live game when you can only give your regular receivers a couple of snaps before you punt. Maybe we can roll Arkansas and get a lot of PT for the freshmen. But I bet our offensive snap count this year is as low as it has ever been. I bet you're 100% correct. From the ball coming out slow, Manning's development, and just slow progressing plays that Sark does, yeah, I can see a massive dip. Plus if you can get younger WR's PT, you can end uo with a Dallas Wilson, Carnell Tate, Vernell Brown III, Eugene Wilson, Ryan Williams, Winston Watkins, etc. You don't know what you have in a live scenario until you put them against their peers, and I don't mean practice. 23 minutes ago, LCHorn said: Seconded, I think this is largely where to place the playing time blame. This could very well be the case, for sure.
November 12Nov 12 35 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said: Moore, Livingstone, and Wingo (to an extent) all waited their turn and are now starting and having good years. Livingstone redshirted and Moore did not record a single catch his freshman year. Novel concept. Wingo played as a freshman out of necessity, but Moore got to learn behind Whittington, one of the greatest Longhorns ever, and an amazing teacher. Livingstone was a project and needed weight, and is still 2 more catches ahead of Wingo was as a true freshman, and is 10 catches behind Wingo and 250 yards behind, but both have 5 TD's for the season (Wingo had 2 as a true frosh). So Wingo is the only freshman to start and it was out of necessity. Now we have Mosley and Livingstone, but that doesn't mean Lockett can't get reps to go into next season prepared.
November 12Nov 12 I wonder if any of them are having their eligibility retained as well. Being limited to 4 games in a season perhaps it’s calculated. Perhaps they aren’t as good as they think or we think or it’s mismanagement. Who knows. But the off season will be lit
November 12Nov 12 3 hours ago, horn4life said: When you suck against teams you should roll, this is the outcome. I hated it last year and was pissed a Ewers, for not playing better to get Manning some PT, earlier. And on offense, it damn hard to get more folks snaps in a live game when you can only give your regular receivers a couple of snaps before you punt. Maybe we can roll Arkansas and get a lot of PT for the freshmen. But I bet our offensive snap count this year is as low as it has ever been. If Wingo would just quit gaining 70-plus yards on catches to open games, maybe our other WRs could get more work in. Bad teammate.
November 12Nov 12 3 hours ago, William Bludworth said: I personally don't understand why Sark doesn't play his FR WRs more. It gets them game reps, and practice is zero sum, so it shows you nothing. There are practice studs, and there are game day studs who aren't great at practice. Rotate Wingo/Livingstone and Lockett, with Wingo obviously getting the bulk, but we should see what Lockett can do, too. Rortate Moore with McCutcheon/Ffrench for same reasons stared above Use Swiss army knife Michael Terry III as a WR/H back, RB, wherever he's needed and can help. He's built like DL Metcalf, so I don't think a single tackle is taking him down. TE rotate Washington/Endries with Townsend. He's a force of nature. Obviously he's not going to get the bulk, but give him something. Other programs have no issues playing freshmen Ohio State Bama Auburn USC Georgia Aggy Michigan Penn State Clemson Oregon And so on.... They don't seem to have an issue playing young frosh and them succeeding. I like Moseley, Moore, and Wingo, but younger guys should be getting reps to add an extra layer to the playbook, and Sark has shown he can dumb it down, which he should since this isn't the NFL, this is college. Get your talent out there. Yes let's emulate Auburn, Penn State, and Clemson, since it's clear their approaches are paying dividends. Also, we haven't been spending a lot of offensive clock in runaway win situations. It's hard to get the unproven guys in when we're clenching our cheeks or chasing from behind.
November 12Nov 12 4 hours ago, William Bludworth said: Other programs have no issues playing freshmen Ohio State Bama Auburn USC Georgia Aggy Michigan Penn State Clemson Oregon Leading freshman receiver this year: Ohio State- Quincy Porter (3 catches) Bama- Lotzeir Brooks (20 catches) Auburn- 0 catches from freshmen receivers USC- DJ Jordan (5 catches) Georgia- Sacovie White-Helton (6 catches) A&M- Ashton Bethel-Roman (12 catches) Should I keep going? Yes, if you have Jeremiah Smith or Dakorien Moore, they will play a lot. I wouldn't consider Kaliq Lockett or Jaime Ffrench either of those guys.
November 12Nov 12 If I'm a Texas receiver, I redshirt, learn my craft, wait for some of the experienced guys ahead of me to clear out, bank that sweet NIL check while not risking being injured in a game, have fun on the 40 acres, and be patient. Leaving after one year because you didn't get enough playing time ... that's short sighted.
November 12Nov 12 23 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said: I wouldn't consider Kaliq Lockett or Jaime Ffrench either of those guys. To be fair, they aren’t getting that type of paycheck, either. It’ll be interesting to see how NIL distribution starts to adapt to the new environment. It might be that depth charts start to be a real deterrent because sitting a year effectively delays that “second contract”, to steal from NFL jargon.
November 12Nov 12 45 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said: Leading freshman receiver this year: Ohio State- Quincy Porter (3 catches) Bama- Lotzeir Brooks (20 catches) Auburn- 0 catches from freshmen receivers USC- DJ Jordan (5 catches) Georgia- Sacovie White-Helton (6 catches) A&M- Ashton Bethel-Roman (12 catches) Should I keep going? Yes, if you have Jeremiah Smith or Dakorien Moore, they will play a lot. I wouldn't consider Kaliq Lockett or Jaime Ffrench either of those guys. No, you're missing the forest for the trees. I'm simply saying get them reps. Not play the entire game, or even get 3 catches, but at least get them on the field to block. More goes into getting on the field than catching passes and TD's. They have to learn to be a teammate, block, build comrade, understand where they need to be, draw the DB away from the intended receiver, and so on. Yeah, catching passes and TD's are cool, but we need them for other things, too. They need to go against their intended peer group (aka the opponent who also has five-stars and high to mid four-stars) so they can see how they match up and what they need to work on (the coaches seeing this to get them better and more ready). There won't be another Jeremiah Smith for a decade, and as for Dakorian Moore, he's been good, but he's not Jeremiah Smith or even Ryan Williams. Right now Dakorian Moore has less yards than Wingo did, and Wingo wasn't even the main target, it was Bond and Golden, then Wingo. He was the third WR on the depth chart. Moore is supposed to be their Jeremiah Smith/Ryan Williams/Bryant Wesco Jr/Cam Coleman, while Wingo is supposed to be WR1 this season, not his frosh season with the transfers. So far he has looked like it the last few games.
November 12Nov 12 2 hours ago, PandaPipe said: Yes let's emulate Auburn, Penn State, and Clemson, since it's clear their approaches are paying dividends. Also, we haven't been spending a lot of offensive clock in runaway win situations. It's hard to get the unproven guys in when we're clenching our cheeks or chasing from behind. How are y'all misinterpreting me saying get freshman WR reps = getting them the ball? No. Just no. No one expects Lockett, Ffrench, Terry III, or McCutcheon to be Jeremiah Smith/Rysn Williams/Bryant Wesco Jr, Cam Coleman. What I'm saying is get them on the field in an environment to learn to play at the speed of the game, learn their routes, move the DB away from the intended WR, block, and learn to play against their peers, while the older WR's get the ball. And if the younger guys do, great! But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying those teams play freshmen to get them game time and game environment experience so they can take that next step next season. No one (I hope) expects a Carnell Tate, or any of the other aforementioned. Just get them on the field for blocking, router, etc. There are so many more things a WR needs to learn than catch pass, make TD. I'm only doing recent HC or currently still at their school for impact players, and if any RS amounted to anything. Since Ryan Day has become HC in 2019, he has not redshirted a single WR or RB. Even Urban Meyer famously said they don't redshirt there. Ohio State - None. No WR or RB has had a RS That's the team we should aspire to be. I don't care about Day, but I like him not RS-ing any of his skill players so they can get action, even if not even catching a pass. And by "aspire" I mean no RS, even play 2 times a game, wgaf? Just get them experience. They seem to be doing just fine with their WR's not getting a RS. Same as RB. Alabama - Nick Saban rarely redshirt any WR'S, but the ones he did didn't do anything, or transferred, and the only RB he ever redshirted was Eddie Lacy. USC - Since Riley got there, only one notable WR was a redshirt, and it's Xavier Jordan, and so far he's done nothing. King Miller is the only RB who was a RS who has done something. Everyone else transferred. Aggy - since 2017 (Jimbo hired) only Ashton Bethel-Roman was a redshirt who was an aggy commit, and RB Amari Daniels. Both seem mid, but whatever. Concepcion did while ar NC State, but I don't count him. Jerome Myles (five-star) Is out for the season with injury, so that's more injury than needing a RS. Of the RS guys, only Bethel-Roman has made any kind of impact. No, Mario Craver did not RS at Miss St, in case you're wondering. Clemson - Antonio Williams had to RS due to multiple injuries, but he did not RS as a freshman. Mike Williams had to RS due to breaking his neck the first game of the season in 2015. No RB's who turned out to be good were redshirted Penn State - No "name" WR was a RS. No Penn State "name" RB was a RS Georgia - No "name" Georgia WR's were a RS. Only Zamir White was a redshirt since 2016 (Kirby's first year). Cash Jones was a walk-on. Oregon - No "name" WR has redshirted under Lanning. No RB'S were a RS since 2021 (Lanning first year) Auburn - no WRs RS'd. No RBs have been RS'd (since 2022 Hugh Freeze coach) Florida - see above These aren't some isolated cases, either. It's become more common due to wanting to get guys on the field for experience, game day action, learning what they're taught, or if need be, get them out of the door quicker. Edited November 12Nov 12 by William Bludworth
November 12Nov 12 1 hour ago, William Bludworth said: No, you're missing the forest for the trees. I'm simply saying get them reps. Not play the entire game, or even get 3 catches, but at least get them on the field to block. More goes into getting on the field than catching passes and TD's. They have to learn to be a teammate, block, build comrade, understand where they need to be, draw the DB away from the intended receiver, and so on. Yeah, catching passes and TD's are cool, but we need them for other things, too. They need to go against their intended peer group (aka the opponent who also has five-stars and high to mid four-stars) so they can see how they match up and what they need to work on (the coaches seeing this to get them better and more ready). There won't be another Jeremiah Smith for a decade, and as for Dakorian Moore, he's been good, but he's not Jeremiah Smith or even Ryan Williams. Right now Dakorian Moore has less yards than Wingo did, and Wingo wasn't even the main target, it was Bond and Golden, then Wingo. He was the third WR on the depth chart. Moore is supposed to be their Jeremiah Smith/Ryan Williams/Bryant Wesco Jr/Cam Coleman, while Wingo is supposed to be WR1 this season, not his frosh season with the transfers. So far he has looked like it the last few games. They're not ready. If they were ready, they'd be playing. The coaches are with them every day and are putting the best players on the field - no one gives AF about their feelings during a one score game, or even a six score game. They play guys as the game on the field dictates. I promise you, the coaches made clear at freshman move in that NIL/high school star rankings/their fragile emotions have absolutely no bearing on snap counts. I understand that a part of fandom is assuming you know more than the coaches, but I'd bet that the offensive staff (who conducts practice, then watches practice film, then works corrections on the practice film with their room, then meets as an entire offensive staff to discuss EVERY SINGLE PRACTICE REP) has a pretty good handle on who should be on the field. But anywho, BTFO uga
November 12Nov 12 1 minute ago, Boko Bevo said: They're not ready. If they were ready, they'd be playing. The coaches are with them every day and are putting the best players on the field - no one gives AF about their feelings during a one score game, or even a six score game. They play guys as the game on the field dictates. I promise you, the coaches made clear at freshman move in that NIL/high school star rankings/their fragile emotions have absolutely no bearing on snap counts. I understand that a part of fandom is assuming you know more than the coaches, but I'd bet that the offensive staff (who conducts practice, then watches practice film, then works corrections on the practice film with their room, then meets as an entire offensive staff to discuss EVERY SINGLE PRACTICE REP) has a pretty good handle on who should be on the field. But anywho, BTFO uga Straight up. Fuck Georgia. Beat their asses.
November 13Nov 13 7 hours ago, William Bludworth said: How are y'all misinterpreting me saying get freshman WR reps = getting them the ball? No. Just no. No one expects Lockett, Ffrench, Terry III, or McCutcheon to be Jeremiah Smith/Rysn Williams/Bryant Wesco Jr, Cam Coleman. What I'm saying is get them on the field in an environment to learn to play at the speed of the game, learn their routes, move the DB away from the intended WR, block, and learn to play against their peers, while the older WR's get the ball. And if the younger guys do, great! But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying those teams play freshmen to get them game time and game environment experience so they can take that next step next season. No one (I hope) expects a Carnell Tate, or any of the other aforementioned. Just get them on the field for blocking, router, etc. There are so many more things a WR needs to learn than catch pass, make TD. I'm only doing recent HC or currently still at their school for impact players, and if any RS amounted to anything. Since Ryan Day has become HC in 2019, he has not redshirted a single WR or RB. Even Urban Meyer famously said they don't redshirt there. Ohio State - None. No WR or RB has had a RS That's the team we should aspire to be. I don't care about Day, but I like him not RS-ing any of his skill players so they can get action, even if not even catching a pass. And by "aspire" I mean no RS, even play 2 times a game, wgaf? Just get them experience. They seem to be doing just fine with their WR's not getting a RS. Same as RB. Alabama - Nick Saban rarely redshirt any WR'S, but the ones he did didn't do anything, or transferred, and the only RB he ever redshirted was Eddie Lacy. USC - Since Riley got there, only one notable WR was a redshirt, and it's Xavier Jordan, and so far he's done nothing. King Miller is the only RB who was a RS who has done something. Everyone else transferred. Aggy - since 2017 (Jimbo hired) only Ashton Bethel-Roman was a redshirt who was an aggy commit, and RB Amari Daniels. Both seem mid, but whatever. Concepcion did while ar NC State, but I don't count him. Jerome Myles (five-star) Is out for the season with injury, so that's more injury than needing a RS. Of the RS guys, only Bethel-Roman has made any kind of impact. No, Mario Craver did not RS at Miss St, in case you're wondering. Clemson - Antonio Williams had to RS due to multiple injuries, but he did not RS as a freshman. Mike Williams had to RS due to breaking his neck the first game of the season in 2015. No RB's who turned out to be good were redshirted Penn State - No "name" WR was a RS. No Penn State "name" RB was a RS Georgia - No "name" Georgia WR's were a RS. Only Zamir White was a redshirt since 2016 (Kirby's first year). Cash Jones was a walk-on. Oregon - No "name" WR has redshirted under Lanning. No RB'S were a RS since 2021 (Lanning first year) Auburn - no WRs RS'd. No RBs have been RS'd (since 2022 Hugh Freeze coach) Florida - see above These aren't some isolated cases, either. It's become more common due to wanting to get guys on the field for experience, game day action, learning what they're taught, or if need be, get them out of the door quicker. I looked at your first example, Ohio State, and find your statement about Day not redshirting skill positions to be pretty funny. In the 2024 class WR Mylan Graham and RB Sam Dixon redshirted. In the 2023 class WR Noah Rodgers (transferred after the season) and WR Bryson Rodgers redshirted.
November 13Nov 13 15 hours ago, Boko Bevo said: They're not ready. If they were ready, they'd be playing. The coaches are with them every day and are putting the best players on the field - no one gives AF about their feelings during a one score game, or even a six score game. They play guys as the game on the field dictates. I promise you, the coaches made clear at freshman move in that NIL/high school star rankings/their fragile emotions have absolutely no bearing on snap counts. I understand that a part of fandom is assuming you know more than the coaches, but I'd bet that the offensive staff (who conducts practice, then watches practice film, then works corrections on the practice film with their room, then meets as an entire offensive staff to discuss EVERY SINGLE PRACTICE REP) has a pretty good handle on who should be on the field. But anywho, BTFO uga I get what you’re trying to say but look at the oline this year or when Baxter was starting over Brooks.
November 13Nov 13 16 hours ago, William Bludworth said: Straight up. Fuck Georgia. Beat their asses. hey good luck with that.
November 13Nov 13 13 hours ago, rvm96 said: I looked at your first example, Ohio State, and find your statement about Day not redshirting skill positions to be pretty funny. In the 2024 class WR Mylan Graham and RB Sam Dixon redshirted. In the 2023 class WR Noah Rodgers (transferred after the season) and WR Bryson Rodgers redshirted. And wbat I didn't convey (which is entirely my fault) was that the guys who have a RS have done nothing. None were five-star players. Every five-star RB and WR have played. Name one thar has RS'd. None have. Even if they didn't get a ton of catches/carries, they did not take a RS, they got on the field to learn. That's my point. Every program is different, so clearly you didn't read below where I listed other programs and their top offensive players. Just look at this year and last year alone. If you need me to list the freshmen that have played in conference or even big OOC programs I can do that. So many guys. I literally named what, like 8 schools off the top of my head? I can go through the entire SEC/B1G and I guarantee you other programs play their freshmen. If you want to pretend it doesn't happen and what Sarkisian is doing is "normal", you might want to get introduced to 2025. These kids want to play. That doesn't mean every player will be a Dallas Wilson, Vernell Brown, Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith, Dakorian Moore, Bryant Wesco, TJ Moore, etc. But they need to see the field even if it's for a couple of plays to see how they fare against their peers and not some zero sum practice bullshit. Arch looked like a "star" in practice, and so did our OL. We see how that went. Now we see Arch is growing with each game. That's how it works for all players. Reps = getting better, and getting a head start will help with the game slowing down. It's really not complicated. Edited November 13Nov 13 by William Bludworth
November 13Nov 13 On 11/12/2025 at 11:14 AM, SarkAfterDark said: The only reason some of you think the freshman WRS should get more snaps is because they haven’t gotten any. That is literally the only reason. As mentioned above McCutcheon got snaps vs Ohio State and he is also a true freshman. I know a lot of people like to think there is a game day stud just sitting on the bench dwindling his thumbs because the coach doesn’t like the way they practice but that isn’t always the case. I’d also like to mention Butler was also ahead of those guys and he isn’t anyone’s favorite. Then you go ahead and explain Parker Livingstone to me good sir.
November 13Nov 13 2 hours ago, William Bludworth said: And wbat I didn't convey (which is entirely my fault) was that the guys who have a RS have done nothing. None were five-star players. Every five-star RB and WR have played. Name one thar has RS'd. None have. Even if they didn't get a ton of catches/carries, they did not take a RS, they got on the field to learn. That's my point. Every program is different, so clearly you didn't read below where I listed other programs and their top offensive players. Mylan Graham was a composite 5* on 247. https://247sports.com/player/mylan-graham-46128507/high-school-273692/ 22 hours ago, William Bludworth said: Since Ryan Day has become HC in 2019, he has not redshirted a single WR or RB. Even Urban Meyer famously said they don't redshirt there. Ohio State - None. No WR or RB has had a RS That's the team we should aspire to be. I don't care about Day, but I like him not RS-ing any of his skill players so they can get action, even if not even catching a pass. And by "aspire" I mean no RS, even play 2 times a game, wgaf? Just get them experience. They seem to be doing just fine with their WR's not getting a RS. Same as RB. If you want to move the goalposts be my guest, but it was very clear what you said here. You're not going to die if you just admit you were wrong about Ohio State and redshirts.
November 13Nov 13 24 minutes ago, rvm96 said: If you want to move the goalposts be my guest, but it was very clear what you said here. You're not going to die if you just admit you were wrong about Ohio State and redshirts. How do you think he is on his 10th handle on this site?
November 13Nov 13 2 hours ago, rvm96 said: Mylan Graham was a composite 5* on 247. https://247sports.com/player/mylan-graham-46128507/high-school-273692/ If you want to move the goalposts be my guest, but it was very clear what you said here. You're not going to die if you just admit you were wrong about Ohio State and redshirts. I looked up Mylan Graham, but looking at his controbutions, they're miniscule. He has 2 RB's and 3 TEs and 3 WR's (three studs, so hardly his fault) with more receptions and yards. That's Ryan Niblett reception numbers. I'm not going to say he won't be a good player, and since you found he was a composite five-star, I'll admit I was wrong on that one. But in my defense, as you can see below the composite didn't show up for me, so I dunno. This is what popped up for me when I looked him up as a recruit. It didn't have composite for whatever reason. Clearly I was wrong, and I admit that. But one player doesn't disprove my findings other than one player was a RS, while everyone else was not. I'm not moving goalposts, I'm pointing out a pattern, and I missed on a player, which I admit to. Also, it's mostly offensive players, but there are defensive players like Melvin Hills, Ty'Anthony Smith (I think?), etc. Since Sarkisian became coach: For comparison (offensive players only, since that's his forté), Texas redshirted or is in the process of redshirting 2025: Kaliq Lockett (#2 WR behind Dakorian Moore, unless something happens) Jaime Ffrench (see above) Michael Terry (see above) Nick Townsend (see above) Emaree Winston (Same) James Simon (same) Rickey Stewart Jr (needs muscle, possible transfer candidate) Only Daylon McCutcheon isn't a RS, and he has 6 catches for 70 yards (7 attempts, and he dropped a bad throw). A little under used considering we've seen what he an do with the ball in his hands. He's electric. So I don't understand why RS-ing would or should be done. They can all be rotated with Wingo and Livingstone for like 2-3 plays a game (Lockett), Moore Jr (Ffrench, McCutcheon), Michael Terry is a Swiss Army Knife who has good to great hands, and has played QB, WR, RB (which would be nice since Baxter lost his speed), same with Simon to move to Z or slot as a change of pace with his speed and cutting ability on the outside, Townsend is a freak who has played RB, TE, WR, can catch and since Endries has some issues there, why not get him involved at times? Obviously Washington is the "guy" since he can catch,so if Endries is having a shit day, plug in Townsend for 3 plays. Watson has absolutely great hands, but he's small for a TE. I understand his RS since I can't think of what to do with bin. 2024: Heavy defensive class Only Wingo didn't RS because we didn't have a true 'X', we just had Bond and Golden (who both played X and Z) who were ahead of Wingo, and Sark split Bond, Golden, and Blue out to the 'X' (blue way less so, but on occasions), so Wingo had to be there for rotation due to not having anyone else with a pulse unless you want go count Cook (who played sparingly with his invisible hands), Bolden (rarely), Davis (as a flex TE, but more as a blocker), Niblack (who had a total of 5 catches for 33 yards, and I'm sure he missed probably 10 balls thrown his way). Parker Livingstone Jordan Washington Christian Clark (achilles tear, but would have RS anyway) Aaron Butler Freddie Dubose (gone) Michael Kern (gone) Only Wingo and Gibson played because we had one healthy RB, Wisner, and our transfer back now has one good eye. Baxter tore every ligament from his knee to his neck, apparently. 2023: Heavy OL class Ryan Niblett Deandre Moore Jr Will Randle 2022: All players had to play out of necessity because Herman left no one. The best OL class we've had and a ton of defensive players now gone to draft or transferred 2021: Gunnar Helm Ja'Tavion Sanders Jonathon Brooks (we had Bijan and Rojo) Jaden Alexis (transferred) Juan Davis Casey Cain (transferred) Edited November 14Nov 14 by William Bludworth Forgot player
November 13Nov 13 52 minutes ago, Vertigo said: How do you think he is on his 10th handle on this site? Gifts don't come easy
November 13Nov 13 17 hours ago, rvm96 said: I looked at your first example, Ohio State, and find your statement about Day not redshirting skill positions to be pretty funny. In the 2024 class WR Mylan Graham and RB Sam Dixon redshirted. In the 2023 class WR Noah Rodgers (transferred after the season) and WR Bryson Rodgers redshirted. Admittedly, I did go pretty fast because I had like 8 schools, so that's on me. I already wrote about my miss on Mylan Graham, but he was a four-star when I looked him up. Regardless, what matters is you are right and I am wrong. I don't know who Sam Dixon is, tbh, or Noah Rogers. I didn't see them, so again, that's on me. But that doesn't disprove my initial post regarding playing guys to get up to speed, reps, game environment, etc. You can't simulate those no matter how many amps and speakers you have. They don't need catches like Smith, Tate, Wesco Jr, Coleman because those guys are either truly special generational (Smith) or just really good AND they have no real competition ahead of them to start. They just need 2-3 reps per game to get a feel and go peer to peer and improve route running, blocking, moving the DB/S away from the intended WR, be a good teammate. So it's a win-win for them. Think Xavier Worthy against Casey Cain or Jaden Alexis. If we had good WR's, Worthy may have been a RS or saw minnimal action, but we'll never know so it's moot. We have been fortunate enough to have balled out in the portal. Adonai Mitchell, Matthew Golden, Emmitt Mosley V to go with good WR's like Whittington, Worthy, and Sanders. It was dire when we had to settle for Aijye Hall, Milton, and Jahleel Billingsley to go with Worthy, Cain, Milton, Brenen Thompson, and Omerie. Edited November 13Nov 13 by William Bludworth Missed a name
November 14Nov 14 Just flipped this guy, Fawcett’s post is calling him a tight end https://247sports.com/player/charlie-jilek-46152938/
November 14Nov 14 10 minutes ago, MichaelDicksonFanClub said: Just flipped this guy, Fawcett’s post is calling him a tight end https://247sports.com/player/charlie-jilek-46152938/ Was this guy’s name ever brought up by anyone? Feels like our 9.95ers are less plugged in than ever.
November 14Nov 14 On 11/12/2025 at 6:18 PM, William Bludworth said: How are y'all misinterpreting me saying get freshman WR reps = getting them the ball? No. Just no. No one expects Lockett, Ffrench, Terry III, or McCutcheon to be Jeremiah Smith/Rysn Williams/Bryant Wesco Jr, Cam Coleman. What I'm saying is get them on the field in an environment to learn to play at the speed of the game, learn their routes, move the DB away from the intended WR, block, and learn to play against their peers, while the older WR's get the ball. And if the younger guys do, great! But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying those teams play freshmen to get them game time and game environment experience so they can take that next step next season. No one (I hope) expects a Carnell Tate, or any of the other aforementioned. Just get them on the field for blocking, router, etc. There are so many more things a WR needs to learn than catch pass, make TD. I'm only doing recent HC or currently still at their school for impact players, and if any RS amounted to anything. Since Ryan Day has become HC in 2019, he has not redshirted a single WR or RB. Even Urban Meyer famously said they don't redshirt there. Ohio State - None. No WR or RB has had a RS That's the team we should aspire to be. I don't care about Day, but I like him not RS-ing any of his skill players so they can get action, even if not even catching a pass. And by "aspire" I mean no RS, even play 2 times a game, wgaf? Just get them experience. They seem to be doing just fine with their WR's not getting a RS. Same as RB. Alabama - Nick Saban rarely redshirt any WR'S, but the ones he did didn't do anything, or transferred, and the only RB he ever redshirted was Eddie Lacy. USC - Since Riley got there, only one notable WR was a redshirt, and it's Xavier Jordan, and so far he's done nothing. King Miller is the only RB who was a RS who has done something. Everyone else transferred. Aggy - since 2017 (Jimbo hired) only Ashton Bethel-Roman was a redshirt who was an aggy commit, and RB Amari Daniels. Both seem mid, but whatever. Concepcion did while ar NC State, but I don't count him. Jerome Myles (five-star) Is out for the season with injury, so that's more injury than needing a RS. Of the RS guys, only Bethel-Roman has made any kind of impact. No, Mario Craver did not RS at Miss St, in case you're wondering. Clemson - Antonio Williams had to RS due to multiple injuries, but he did not RS as a freshman. Mike Williams had to RS due to breaking his neck the first game of the season in 2015. No RB's who turned out to be good were redshirted Penn State - No "name" WR was a RS. No Penn State "name" RB was a RS Georgia - No "name" Georgia WR's were a RS. Only Zamir White was a redshirt since 2016 (Kirby's first year). Cash Jones was a walk-on. Oregon - No "name" WR has redshirted under Lanning. No RB'S were a RS since 2021 (Lanning first year) Auburn - no WRs RS'd. No RBs have been RS'd (since 2022 Hugh Freeze coach) Florida - see above These aren't some isolated cases, either. It's become more common due to wanting to get guys on the field for experience, game day action, learning what they're taught, or if need be, get them out of the door quicker. Fine, I will give more examples that you speak in absolutes without doing 5 minutes of research. Georgia- Arian Smith was a top 50 prospect, redshirted, and got drafted to the NFL. Chauncey Bowens is a redshirt freshman RB who is the teams second leading rusher this season. https://247sports.com/player/chauncey-bowens-46111845/high-school-259988/ https://247sports.com/player/arian-smith-46052428/high-school-212826/ Oregon- All the skill position recruits for 2024 redshirted. https://247sports.com/college/oregon/longformarticle/oregon-ducks-ducks-football-redshirt-review-peyton-woodyard-244674465/#2588587 Auburn- RB Alvin Henderson is redshirting this season. https://247sports.com/player/alvin-henderson-46128181/high-school-273186/
November 14Nov 14 26 minutes ago, MichaelDicksonFanClub said: Just flipped this guy, Fawcett’s post is calling him a tight end https://247sports.com/player/charlie-jilek-46152938/ Sounds like he prefers to play "middle linebacker," which is why he dumped UCF for Minny.
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