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Seems like other schools are immediately reallocating NIL funds that free up when they lose out on a recruit to increase the offer for another target and Texas remains firm on the initial offer, at least for now. 

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4 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

Seems like other schools are immediately reallocating NIL funds that free up when they lose out on a recruit to increase the offer for another target and Texas remains firm on the initial offer, at least for now. 

Gerry mentioned over the weekend that we had the highest NIL offer on the table for James Johnson, so I don't think we are just sitting back and taking it on the chin. 

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15 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Gerry mentioned over the weekend that we had the highest NIL offer on the table for James Johnson, so I don't think we are just sitting back and taking it on the chin. 


The problem is that the only person who knows that for sure is James Johnson, who has all kinds of reasons to not tell the truth. 

28 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

It honestly just looks like Florida got super desperate after missing out on all of their other targets and just blew their whole budget on Guervil. In those situations you just kind of shrug and move on. We seem to be everyones boogeyman and teams get crazy at the 11th hour to not lose out to us. Similar to that TE that committed to USC, if some team wants to throw that kind of money at a kid you can't really be too upset about it. 

Everybody wants a Texas hat on the  table.  I still like our approach though, remain consistent and sober on our salary allocations for the overall health of the roster.  We don't want a mass exodus like other schools have.  Personally I'd rather keep all the dudes we have already right now.

Just now, Scholz said:

Everybody wants a Texas hat on the  table.  I still like our approach though, remain consistent and sober on our salary allocations for the overall health of the roster.  We don't want a mass exodus like other schools have.  Personally I'd rather keep all the dudes we have already right now.

Has Ohio state had a mass exodus? Georgia?

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Has Ohio state had a mass exodus? Georgia?

That's valid.  But we've beaten them on plenty of guys too (go down the list of our #1 class just last year).  Can't win them all.

I think there comes a point where we're kind of all full up and nobody's leaving (which is where our roster is IMO).  And some of these guys want to play immediately.  It's not all about NIL.

8 hours ago, campcrunk said:

You're absolutely right - but there's definitely an implication in some of the above posts that the women listed there are somehow equivalent to the some of the women I saw waiting in line for a popular KC "BBQ" joint I had to eat at because a client said I just "had to try it." He's a fucking idiot, their shitty deli meat "brisket" sucks, searing cubes of beef does not a burnt end make, and their women are busted. The pork ribs were OK, I guess. Also, Anna Kendrick and young Susan Sarandon in particular - absolutely would. All day long. Or at least 37 seconds it would take me to finish

Anyway, I got mad about horrendous KC "BBQ" and kind of forgot my point. 

Was it Arthur Bryant’s? Because that place is highly overrated. 

18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Has Ohio state had a mass exodus? Georgia?

Yes? OSU and Georgia both took heavy losses to the NFL draft. So far most of Texas’s draft success has come from the development guys or one year rentals that were cheap from an NIL standpoint. Banks and Worthy so far has been the only big dollar NIL player to leave Texas via the draft. There’s a reason basically every preseason prediction has both UGA and OSU behind Texas.

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"Every cycle is different."

Since the 2022 cycle forward, NIL and the portal have combined to create an extremely complicated landscape to navigate. Texas (the Surly/Burton cabal, the AD, Sarkisian and staff, big money boosters) have solved the riddles presented in front of it each time. It hasn't been voodoo or just following the same "process". It's taken a lot of collective buy-in and hard, smart work and some luck each time.

Hell, part of why Saban quit is because he couldn't model future recruiting cycles and portal activity into his "process". I don't know how much of the details he's gone into publicly about that, but he's gone into the nitty gritty on it in private, and he's become a plaintive bitch about it. 

At some point during each cycle, something has clicked for everyone involved and Sarkisian has been able to close on recruits, the current roster, and portal candidates. You can find the moments on the timelines for each period, really. Whatever the case, each cycle from July 1, 2021 forward has involved a spring/summer period of complete fucking shock. This one looks no different. I think a lot of folks are currently flatfooted by how some other programs are initial handling ramifications around House. 

"Past performance does not really inform future returns."

I think this is important to note for this board, largely because there seems to be a reflexive "this is how it always goes" notion from the natives of this forum. I get it, but I'm not personally subscribing to that line of thinking. Why? Because the dynamics of this cycle are, yet again, different. 

Some of the money being thrown around by other schools, whether because they can (Oregon, Michigan) or because they're desperate (USC, LSU, Florida) or because they cannot help themselves and refuse to fall behind (Ohio State, Notre Dame) is fucking shocking. This is not a case of $100k making the difference. When other offers are coming over the top of yours by more than $1M for non-QB roles, that's just flat out new. 

Don't conflate some of these situations with a collective getting or staying aggressive, either. Some of this is coming through the school and not subject to the same compliance. It's "rev share" money. What happens if what's reported to be 85% of $20.5M is really $35M because the program can just do that? I haven't read the House agreement, but what I've heard and what makes sense is that if someone is washing through the rev share, no one externally is going to have the mechanisms to see or hinder that, or punish it. 

So what can programs do if that's the case?

Do it as well? Not likely. Most schools cannot. The $20.5M is a huge fucking burden to get to in the first place. Other schools are just not going to take that approach. It seems pretty clear to me that Texas isn't going to do anything of that sort. 

Keep building through collectives? The burden has now been lightened for boosters at places like Texas, no doubt. However, if Texas wants to reach the mountain top and stay around there, they're going to have to be honest with themselves about it, much as Ohio State and Notre Dame are currently having to be as well. Will Texas? I don't know, but I'm relatively informed and still optimistic.

"Maybe everyone is just catching up to us in NIL!?"

I feel like this anxiety needs to walk away from the keyboards of this board, if nowhere else. No one is going to "catch" a competitive advantage. There is a very small handful of schools that sit above the rest in terms of access to capital and House doesn't change that. Texas would have to choose to give that up. Is that something a totally aligned organization and its benefactors are going to let happen? It seems unlikely. 

I think it is fair to think that Texas is still surveying the landscape and not making all of the moves early, but it will eventually take action and flips and surprises will fall in our favor down the line. I also think it is prudent to realize that there's risk on in this cycle that either may not happen or the calculations will be wrong, with timing being yet another factor that could work against Texas out of nowhere.

"The current season doesn't really impact the current recruiting cycle."

One final thought around all of this is that the performance within the season now matters more than ever. The old thought above this in bold is now an old trope. Money being funneled in for recruiting and roster management is some of the same money recruiting to buyout an old coaching staff and to hire a new one.

Florida's money started flowing after they decided to keep Sun Belt Billy. If that flips and they have to fund a big buyout, there will be blood with that roster and recruiting class. If USC fucks the chicken again, they likely still can't afford to buyout Riley, but that obvious future need may well close off the NIL valve and lead to serious attrition even without coaching change. These are scenarios that will play out at multiple schools before the mythical "signing day" in December. 

I think Texas is going to have another amazing year on the field, so it can only benefit from the carnage within the realm of poor performance and coaching hot seats and firings.

 

1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

It honestly just looks like Florida got super desperate after missing out on all of their other targets and just blew their whole budget on Guervil. In those situations you just kind of shrug and move on. We seem to be everyones boogeyman and teams get crazy at the 11th hour to not lose out to us. Similar to that TE that committed to USC, if some team wants to throw that kind of money at a kid you can't really be too upset about it. 

Technically Florida also beat Texas for McCoy. He is their only solid d-line commit though. The other Florida d-line commit is apparently going to flip to Ohio State.

The “Super Bowl windows” are now part of this sport. Having guys like Hill, Collins, Wingo, Muhammad, is going to limit our ability to spend on HS recruits.

8 hours ago, campcrunk said:

 Also, Anna Kendrick and young Susan Sarandon in particular - absolutely would. All day long. Or at least 37 seconds it would take me to finish

3 hours ago, Atticus said:

There is a huge gulf between internet fuckable and real life fuckable standards. No one is talking about being seen in public with these women or spending time with them with any consistency. 
If I don’t have to give up anything for it, they’re all well within the real life fuckable range. 

 

The game is "Is she hot?," not "Would you do her?" - those are two completely separate questions. I would obviously fuck prime Susan Sarandon. I have done far, far worse. But I just don't see why people consider her to be some sort of beauty. She's got...saggy eyes? Not sure how to describe it. Same thing with Betty Davis and Elizabeth Moss. Who I would also fuck but do not consider to be beauties by any means. 

 

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

With the news that Guervil is going to commit to Florida being confirmed by Bobby this morning, I wonder if this place can handle the caterwauling we’re all about to experience. 

1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

It honestly just looks like Florida got super desperate after missing out on all of their other targets and just blew their whole budget on Guervil. In those situations you just kind of shrug and move on. We seem to be everyones boogeyman and teams get crazy at the 11th hour to not lose out to us. Similar to that TE that committed to USC, if some team wants to throw that kind of money at a kid you can't really be too upset about it. 

 

I'm still in trust the corches mode. I hope we don't blow our bank matching Florida for Geurvil. We already have several DTs in the boat. I know there is a premium on DL from high school because it's extremely difficult to pull good ones from the portal, but I think that money could be put to better use. Let's circle back on some of our misses at other positions and see what happens when we up our offer. But whatever the staff decides to do, I've got faith. 

 

6 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I would obviously fuck prime Susan Sarandon. I have done far, far worse.

But I just don't see why people consider her to be some sort of beauty.

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35 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

I think Texas is going to have another amazing year on the field, so it can only benefit from the carnage within the realm of poor performance and coaching hot seats and firings.

 

A couple of questions I have:

It has been implied that the signing day is no longer binding (in that it ever was). If recruits ink NIL deals prior, how easily can they get out of it/be flipped assuming they are willing/eager?n presumably these deals will also make it harder for say a Mark Bowman to get out of it, Riley or not?

And can they sign anything before they enroll, of course?

 

I believe that a player from Wisconsin unenrolled from all his classes and headed to Miami because the Wisconsin coaches wouldn't allow him to enter the transfer portal.  I don't think there is anything binding anyone to anywhere right now.  I also think that Riley is lying about the numbers again and hoping the alums cover his insanity when the player gets to campus.  It worked for him with Addison and he didn't deliver on that deal.

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23 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

She's got...saggy eyes? Not sure how to describe it. Same thing with Betty Davis and Elizabeth Moss. Who I would also fuck but do not consider to be beauties by any means. 

It’s called “doe-eyed” and it has been used to describe a feminine trait that men consider hot for centuries 

26 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

 

The game is "Is she hot?," not "Would you do her?" - those are two completely separate questions. I would obviously fuck prime Susan Sarandon. I have done far, far worse. But I just don't see why people consider her to be some sort of beauty. She's got...saggy eyes? Not sure how to describe it. Same thing with Betty Davis and Elizabeth Moss. Who I would also fuck but do not consider to be beauties by any means. 

Noted. Elizabeth Moss was borderline fuckable in mad men and she’s fallen off a cliff since then


I don’t even wanna think about what else you’ve dug into. Woof.

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Noted. Elizabeth Moss was borderline fuckable in mad men and she’s fallen off a cliff since then


I don’t even wanna think about what else you’ve dug into. Woof.

Fat and/or ugly chicks need love too, dude

27 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

Yes? OSU and Georgia both took heavy losses to the NFL draft. So far most of Texas’s draft success has come from the development guys or one year rentals that were cheap from an NIL standpoint. Banks and Worthy so far has been the only big dollar NIL player to leave Texas via the draft. There’s a reason basically every preseason prediction has both UGA and OSU behind Texas.

The implication was that they haven't had mass exoduses due to lack of NIL funding, which is true. Players leaving early for the NFL has very little to do with NIL, or lack thereof.

The sky isn't falling, but it looks like Sark and TPTB will have to reevaluate some things and adjust accordingly. They've done just that every cycle, and I expect them to do it again.

29 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Noted. Elizabeth Moss was borderline fuckable in mad men and she’s fallen off a cliff since then

Some dude on here ran into her in Austin and said in person she was one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen. She is a two-face, for sure. 

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Some dude on here ran into her in Austin and said in person she was one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen. She is a two-face, for sure. 

Was it the poster who fucks fat chicks for sport? Remember where you are. 

1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Some dude on here ran into her in Austin and said in person she was one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen. She is a two-face, for sure. 

On here?  Was he a member of the Church of Scientology?

Imagining Pete, Duck, et. al., chasing after her in Mad Men required a wild suspension of disbelief.  

2 hours ago, statsman said:

You have just described why Marcus DuPree committed to Texas. He wanted to be able to tell dozens of other schools to buzz off while he entertained bids from the real suitors- OU, Mississippi State, Southern Miss and Pittsburgh (Sherrill was the coach). Texas was the stalking horse. 
 
Texas finally figured it out and started recruiting Anthony Byerly a couple of weeks before signing day. 

Yep, Dupree, Ryan Perrilloux, Brockermeyer lots of examples with various turns and twist. Good amount have gone in our favor late under Sark. 

 

IT 

IT is hearing from multiple sources Texas is trying to pick up the pace on Frisco athlete Jalen Lott. This is likely tied, at least in part, to Texas' trailing position for Kaydon Finley.

We don't know how far this will go but it's a development in the right direction. Previously it seemed Texas was resigned to letting him go to USC or Oregon. At last check USC had the most aggressive offer on the table. Relative to this cycle (where costs are lower than last year), it's a big offer.

Lott commits on July 8.

54 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Noted. Elizabeth Moss was borderline fuckable in mad men and she’s fallen off a cliff since then


I don’t even wanna think about what else you’ve dug into. Woof.

It's because she has a booger sugar problem. It's real, and you can tell. An actress she worked with said after every break she would bust it out and go to town in front of pretty anyone. No one cared since Handmaiden (sp?) Tales was so successful. 

This was Gerry on 6/26. As you’d expect, it’s a mixed bag but probably not as bad as many of us have said.

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9 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

IT 

IT is hearing from multiple sources Texas is trying to pick up the pace on Frisco athlete Jalen Lott. This is likely tied, at least in part, to Texas' trailing position for Kaydon Finley.

We don't know how far this will go but it's a development in the right direction. Previously it seemed Texas was resigned to letting him go to USC or Oregon. At last check USC had the most aggressive offer on the table. Relative to this cycle (where costs are lower than last year), it's a big offer.

Lott commits on July 8.

Spiegelman saying Oregon as of 10 minutes ago

32 minutes ago, TXpride said:

The implication was that they haven't had mass exoduses due to lack of NIL funding, which is true. Players leaving early for the NFL has very little to do with NIL, or lack thereof.

The sky isn't falling, but it looks like Sark and TPTB will have to reevaluate some things and adjust accordingly. They've done just that every cycle, and I expect them to do it again.

It has everything todo with NIL. Do you think that there are separate funds for roster retention and high school recruiting? The money directed towards Hill is going to reduce the funds that can be allocated towards recruiting a HS player. Schools that have a shitty roster are going to have an advantage in being able to fund their recruiting vs having to spend on retention.

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4 minutes ago, MichaelDicksonFanClub said:

Spiegelman saying Oregon as of 10 minutes ago

Getting into what feels like a straight auction with Oregon and USC is a bold move

Sark flips recruits late in the season as regularly as Mike Stoops like smelling farts out of a paper bag. It'll be ok. Yes, I have caught myself being worried, but until Sark doesn't do this, it's stupid to worry about. 

5 minutes ago, MichaelDicksonFanClub said:

Spiegelman saying Oregon as of 10 minutes ago

I do wonder if Sark and Orphy can close this one out later in the season.  Tine will tell. 

21 hours ago, Chili dog said:

I could walk into the Target in Lakeway on a random Tuesday afternoon and find six women hotter than Heather Graham.

Just went to the HEB in Lakeway. 6 women firmly hotter, 5 women that were close, 1 that was firmly hotter from the neck down
I'm not worried about these numbers

48 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Some dude on here ran into her in Austin and said in person she was one of the most beautiful women he's ever seen. She is a two-face, for sure. 

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As far as recruiting goes, I met Kate Winslet when she was in Austin filming Life of David Gale. She was very nice. Spent about 15 minutes showing me around the set. 

That’s all I got… 

2 hours ago, Not a Sock said:

Yes? OSU and Georgia both took heavy losses to the NFL draft. So far most of Texas’s draft success has come from the development guys or one year rentals that were cheap from an NIL standpoint. Banks and Worthy so far has been the only big dollar NIL player to leave Texas via the draft. There’s a reason basically every preseason prediction has both UGA and OSU behind Texas.

They’re not talking about players leaving for NFL in terms of mass exodus. 

19 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

As far as recruiting goes, I met Kate Winslet when she was in Austin filming Life of David Gale. She was very nice. Spent about 15 minutes showing me around the set. 

That’s all I got… 

Kevin Spacey was known to be pretty handsy ‘bout this time. Hope you watched your cornhole, bud.

As far as recruiting goes, I met Kate Winslet when she was in Austin filming Life of David Gale. She was very nice. Spent about 15 minutes showing me around the set. 
That’s all I got… 

Did you ask her why she couldn’t just scoot her fat ass over and let Jack up as opposed to watching him freeze to death?
5 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Kevin Spacey was known to be pretty handsy ‘bout this time. Hope you watched your cornhole, bud.

I was cleared of those charges. 

Wait. Spacey, I mean, was cleared… 

41 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

As far as recruiting goes, I met Kate Winslet when she was in Austin filming Life of David Gale. She was very nice. Spent about 15 minutes showing me around the set. 

That’s all I got… 

I interviewed Peri Gilpin (Roz from Frasier) for the O. Henry newspaper when I was in 7th grade. She was also very nice. 

3 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I interviewed Peri Gilpin (Roz from Frasier) for the O. Henry newspaper when I was in 7th grade. She was also very nice. 

And a longhorn

4 hours ago, Junior Bonner said:

As far as recruiting goes, I met Kate Winslet when she was in Austin filming Life of David Gale. She was very nice. Spent about 15 minutes showing me around the set. 

That’s all I got… 

Here began my lifelong hatred of Kevin Spacey. I had writing “lab” twice a week from 8-9:30 pm in the communications building while they were filming this. You could park in the lot across Dean Keaton in the evenings except when they decided to block it off for the cast and crew every night for the next day. Empty ass parking lot roped off for 3 months…the only three months I needed to use the damn thing. I’ve crossed paths with Spacey twice in the 20+ years since, and both times I yelled, “Fuck you, Spacey! Should’ve put your head in that fucking plastic bag.” He just looked at me totally confused, but I felt a little better.

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1 hour ago, Not a Sock said:

It has everything todo with NIL. Do you think that there are separate funds for roster retention and high school recruiting? The money directed towards Hill is going to reduce the funds that can be allocated towards recruiting a HS player. Schools that have a shitty roster are going to have an advantage in being able to fund their recruiting vs having to spend on retention.

"Max exodus" was used in reference to transfers, not early draft entrees. The point is that it's possible to have both an elite roster and elite recruiting assuming you have the funds and the willingness to use them.

16 minutes ago, TXpride said:

"Max exodus" was used in reference to transfers, not early draft entrees. The point is that it's possible to have both an elite roster and elite recruiting assuming you have the funds and the willingness to use them.

Who has a better roster than Texas and currently has a better recruiting class?

8 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

What the fuck has this board gone to since I took my mental health exodus? 

I miss cat facts and Charleston talk 


Turns out we needed you to keep us on the straight and narrow. Go figure. 

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