June 28, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, texaslong said: What the hell is going on with the guy lifting his shirt up? It worked. Please let Beaver roll them tonight. Pig will never ever live that down.
June 28, 20187 yr I thought that amazing double play in the 5th or 6th by the Arky pitcher ended the series.
June 28, 20187 yr 48 minutes ago, spystud13 said: That play was not routine. Should it have been made? Of course, but it was not routine. Fairly certain you weren’t watching. i rarely watch college ball but that play showed the difference between MLB and NCAA. I think the Majors make that play.
June 28, 20187 yr 51 minutes ago, spystud13 said: That play was not routine. Should it have been made? Of course, but it was not routine. Fairly certain you weren’t watching. Agree, not routine but one that all 3 of those guys will have nightmares about for the rest of their lives if they don't win tonight. 7 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said: i rarely watch college ball but that play showed the difference between MLB and NCAA. I think the Majors make that play. I disagree. There are plenty of examples of MLB players letting a foul ball (or even a fair ball) drop in front of two or three players. All that said, that is the RF ball 100%, followed by 2nd and 1st. Any of them could have made the catch but pretty clear the RF should have called them all off.
June 28, 20187 yr Hmm, MLB players make plays 18-22 year olds don’t. Wonder why the big kids get paid?
June 28, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said: Agree, not routine but one that all 3 of those guys will have nightmares about for the rest of their lives if they don't win tonight. I disagree. There are plenty of examples of MLB players letting a foul ball (or even a fair ball) drop in front of two or three players. All that said, that is the RF ball 100%, followed by 2nd and 1st. Any of them could have made the catch but pretty clear the RF should have called them all off. mlb can cover much more ground than the college guys and generally have much better communication. Yes, MLB makes mistakes but they make that catch.
June 28, 20187 yr Um, no shit. Are you actually arguing professional baseball players are better than amateurs?
June 28, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, spystud13 said: Hmm, MLB players make plays 18-22 year olds don’t. Wonder why the big kids get paid? agreed. Also, baseball NCAA - MLB is a much wider gap in talent and body size than championship level NCAA-NBA / football. College baseball look 18-22, the Bamas, Ohio States of the world already are NFL bodies.
June 28, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, spystud13 said: Um, no shit. Are you actually arguing professional baseball players are better than amateurs? guess what, lots of people here will say MLB doesn't make that either. Not sure why you are arguing with me, seems we agree 100%.
June 28, 20187 yr 8 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said: mlb can cover much more ground than the college guys and generally have much better communication. Yes, MLB makes mistakes but they make that catch. Which catch was easier? That one or this?????? My point is it happens all the time, just the stakes usually aren't as high as they were for Pig. Edited June 28, 20187 yr by JimmyHoffa
June 28, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, spystud13 said: The simple fact is that was RF’s ball, he bailed early. Period. so you think MLB makes the play or not? also, notice all the people saying MLB won't make it, just as i suspected, they'll put up MLB vids of errors/bad plays. Funny stuff.
June 28, 20187 yr Yes, most MLB RFs make that play. My exact argument was it wasn’t routine, scroll up & read.
June 28, 20187 yr And only Hoffa has said that play wouldn’t be made in MLB, but he just provided one instance where it wasn’t routine. Which again, I said.
June 28, 20187 yr 56 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said: agreed. Also, baseball NCAA - MLB is a much wider gap in talent and body size than championship level NCAA-NBA / football. College baseball look 18-22, the Bamas, Ohio States of the world already are NFL bodies. Man College Football is trash compared to the NFL as far as ability on the field is concerned. I have no idea what you are talking about. But the fact that the players are rougher makes it more fun, IMO, same with college baseball. But another big reason is the NFL forces players to attend college while Baseball has no such requirement. The top 18-22 year olds will be in the minors getting paid. Edited June 28, 20187 yr by Valmy77
June 28, 20187 yr 52 minutes ago, Orca of Peace said: so you think MLB makes the play or not? also, notice all the people saying MLB won't make it, just as i suspected, they'll put up MLB vids of errors/bad plays. Funny stuff. Nobody said the MLB won't make it. Don't be ridiculous. They only said it was not a routine play and sometimes MLB players screw it up.
June 28, 20187 yr What a dumb and pointless argument. My favorite kind. And while he and I disagree plenty, spystud is absolutely correct on this one. That is the right fielder's ball 100% and he should feel like shit. It's also not a routine play in that it certainly isn't a 95%+ probability that it's caught.
June 28, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said: I thought that amazing double play in the 5th or 6th by the Arky pitcher ended the series. Uh...nope.
June 28, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: What a dumb and pointless argument. My favorite kind. And while he and I disagree plenty, spystud is absolutely correct on this one. That is the right fielder's ball 100% and he should feel like shit. It's also not a routine play in that it certainly isn't a 95%+ probability that it's caught. he and i are not disagreeing. MLB makes that play with a higher % than college guys. It's a much more routine play for them really and they make it look easy. Occasionally it drops but that's how it goes.
June 28, 20187 yr Well I didn't say you were incorrect, so there's that. But it's also not 95%+ in MLB in my opinion. But it's a shitload closer at that level. And for a play to be called routine I think it has to be made at at least that percentage.
June 28, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Cairn Horn88 said: Uh...nope. Yeah I know it didn't. I thought that was the play that killed OSU's momentum, and potentially cost them the series. New life now. Edited June 28, 20187 yr by Onboard 2.0
June 28, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, spystud13 said: RF bitched out early, he didn’t want to make the play. 2B busted his ass & overran it, but that was never his ball. RF will know for as long as he lives he should have bowed up. if the 2B doesn't run like he did over there, the RF comes in and makes an easy catch. that 2b fucked it all up.
June 28, 20187 yr I’m not opposed to that, but RF never once had it in his mind to make a play. He wanted someone else to.
June 28, 20187 yr You can’t be mad at 2B for busting his ass, he just wasn’t talented enough to make the play. RF failed, period.
June 28, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, spystud13 said: You can’t be mad at 2B for busting his ass, he just wasn’t talented enough to make the play. RF failed, period. 2B just went over there so out of control. he just ran into the middle of it with no idea where the ball was.
June 28, 20187 yr I agree, 5th year senior 2Bs usually aren’t great. And I say that knowing he was a fairly decent pick, but it wasn’t for his D. Kid moved from C to 3B to 2B. He did everything he could, but it wasn’t his ball.
June 28, 20187 yr I was not really interested in either team winning this series but after that play I really hope OSU pulls it out tonight. A play like that fucking Arkansas is one of those beautiful things about baseball. Legendary.
June 28, 20187 yr There are usually two reasons why that play isn't made at a high level with the first being the RF/LF not being fast enough or getting a good enough read off the bat. The second reason is that more times than not the infielders get in the way more often than they actually make the catch. This play should have been an easy catch for the RF. He could have easily been there in time and he had by far the best view and angle on the ball. You can see him pull up at the end, my guess for this is due to hearing the footsteps of the infielders. It's easy to hear those footsteps and get spooked. The big problem on this play though was the lack of communication by the RF. He is in control on this play and completely fucked up. The infielders will rarely call for the ball on this play because they are supposed to go all out until called off by the OF. Basically you want the OF to call for the ball pretty early so that the infielders slow down and stay out of the way. RF never does his job thus allowing the 2nd baseman to get in the way and prevent him from making the catch.
June 28, 20187 yr 42 minutes ago, po elvis said: 2B just went over there so out of control. he just ran into the middle of it with no idea where the ball was. This...he was very fast and got there first...but overran the ball...it caused the 1st baseman to back off, and the right fielder just kind of pulled up....so, nobody looked good here....whereas, the RF or 2B should have/could have made the play......it could cost them a championship...or they can bounce back and win tonight....should make for an interesting 3rd game.
June 28, 20187 yr The 2nd baseman did exactly what he was supposed to do. The RF fucked up. It's a very difficult play for the 2B. It may not be routine for the RF but it's pretty damn close based on where the ball landed and how close he was even with pulling up at the end.
June 28, 20187 yr I don't understand why anyone on this board is analyzing and discussing who was responsible for making that catch. We should all be agreeing on how pig got f'd because of it and discussing how wonderful that is
June 28, 20187 yr 18 minutes ago, DeadArmadillo said: I don't understand why anyone on this board is analyzing and discussing who was responsible for making that catch. We should all be agreeing on how pig got f'd because of it and discussing how wonderful that is Oh we all agree on that. We just also like to discuss baseball.
June 28, 20187 yr RF bitched out early, he didn’t want to make the play. 2B busted his ass & overran it, but that was never his ball. RF will know for as long as he lives he should have bowed up. ^^^^This. It was the RF’s ball all day long. I get that the 2baseman wanted to get over there, but priority goes to the player coming in on the ball, players moving lateral (2b), and backwards (1b) better get loud if they want it. Even if they win tonight, that right fielder is going to remember not calling for that ball each day for the rest of his life. Trust me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
June 28, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, Orca of Peace said: mlb can cover much more ground than the college guys and generally have much better communication. Yes, MLB makes mistakes but they make that catch. Are you Ice Cream Float? I think you are.
June 28, 20187 yr 2B is the one who fucked that up for Arky...was trying to be hero with last catch and came sprinting in way outside his territory.
June 28, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, DeadArmadillo said: We should all be agreeing on how pig got f'd because of it and discussing how wonderful that is. We will, but only if arky fails tonight.
June 28, 20187 yr 2 hours ago, UTexasFight said: NSIAP. F arky and FTR All he had to do is take 10 steps back before that pitch and he's standing there waiting for it instead of gliding back like the asshole he is. I blame Washington as much as i blame Cruz
June 28, 20187 yr I fucking hate baseball slacks especially ones that are so long they drag the bathroom floor when you take a piss (and drag your shitty looking baseball slacks in others piss)
June 28, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, txhorns said: The 2nd baseman did exactly what he was supposed to do. The RF fucked up. It's a very difficult play for the 2B. It may not be routine for the RF but it's pretty damn close based on where the ball landed and how close he was even with pulling up at the end. Considering their lead was the result of two pop ups that weren’t caught because of how deep the osu outfielders were playing, it’s a very just result that the swine rf played himself out of it.
June 28, 20187 yr 6 hours ago, JimmyHoffa said: To be fair, they were up against Bregman pop up voodoo. 1:28: Edited June 28, 20187 yr by clapclapclap
June 28, 20187 yr 6 hours ago, spystud13 said: And only Hoffa has said that play wouldn’t be made in MLB, but he just provided one instance where it wasn’t routine. Which again, I said. Nope, not what I said. I was simply pointed out the fact that the same thing happens in MLB games on occasion. It was in response to Orcha trying to say MLB players wouldn't allow that to happen. Which isn't always true. I agree it wasn't routine but a play that should have been made. (obviously)
June 28, 20187 yr If a pop up is high enough and in fair territory so that a player has time to camp under it, then it should be caught....plain and simple.
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